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9 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
Equity should mean an equal shot as far as I’m concerned. What you do with it is on you. I agree that you don’t keep bad folks to meet some kind of quota, but the idea is to open up more opportunities for those who may have been closed out.
An equal shot is called equality. The reason it has basically been abandoned by liberals is it means hard work. Equity means equal results and pretends that some God given skill and hard work are not the main reason for success
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2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
Dude I have taken training in it every year as part of my workplace mandatory yearly requirements. My daughter is a DEI counselor. I understand it. The idea is to help everyone understand why we should all be judged by the content of their character. And my training has nothing to do with politicians, it’s because the board and CEO of our health network know it makes a better workplace.
Equity that simply becomes equal outcomes does not make any workplace better. It is a fact that some people are more useful than others in certain jobs, and the incompetent should be rewarded equally with the competent. My union does not help good teachers it protects the bad ones so we are all treated with equity and you wonder why good teachers leave.
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2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
That is what diversity, equity and inclusion teaches. Will that work for you?
Dude you believe in the goodness of politicians to an absurd level. The idea of equity is the opposite of judging someone on their character. Equity says that people should have the same outcome regardless of character or skills.
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1 hour ago, Sundancer said:
Typo but I'm still waiting for you on this: “Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.”
I'll stop asking for you to support it since you failed so miserably the last 3 times I asked.
You never once showed where I was wrong- you simply stated my actual facts were not facts. You have presented nothing as far a recent study.
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1 hour ago, Sundancer said:
I already did.
Nothing you linked supports, “Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.”
What we know is that vaccines are providing robust immune support at least 18 months into the testing for almost all cases except for those whose immunity is compromised.
But you keep chicken-little-ing.
The vaccines have only been used widespread for 8 months but we know about an 18 month robust support. Dude do you work for the Pfizer?
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1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:
I am not worried about any long term effects of the vaccines. First, historically side effects from vaccination are extraordinarily rare and, if they occur, are seen within weeks. We saw this with the very rare blood clot issues and the myocarditis with the Covid vaccines, which are picked up quickly due to the reporting mechanisms used globally.
Granted then mRNA viruses are new technology, but they are basically lipid packages of mRNA. The mRNA is transcribed then degraded, and does not alter the genome in any way. SoI don’t see where the theoretical fear of long term adverse effects are supported based on the science.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna757526
1/3 of drugs have unexpected side effects, which is not extraordinary rare. Old school vaccines are not as problematic as they used to be because we have spent 80 years making them better. RNA effects on the body is still an unknown, which you seem to admit. While I doubt there will be any life threatening problem in a decade we don't know because we don't have a long term study
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12 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said:
Buffalo Timmy: “Well done proving that the initial alarm was very likely poorly done research.”
ComradeKayAdams: “I did no such thing. I distinguished the most useful metrics for determining coral reef biome health (any of the coral bleaching data) from the much less useful ones (coral growth rates and coral cover percentages). The article did not review any of the coral bleaching data collected from the Great Barrier Reef or from any other coral reefs on the planet. Any guesses as to why??”
Buffalo Timmy: “Kay, if you can’t predict the future it is not good science.”
ComradeKayAdams: “Agreed, but predictions have already been made. The data so far is approximately matching the median predictions for ocean temperatures, coral bleaching incidents, bleaching coverage, AND biome population reductions for the flora and fauna most sensitive to ocean temperature increases.”
Buffalo Timmy: “If I keep predicting collapse and it grows, then I am missing something large.”
ComradeKayAdams: “Well for one thing, predictions of coral reef biome collapse have been made predominantly for the second half of this century…which obviously hasn’t arrived yet. Also, there are a number of explanations for short-term reversals of long-term trends in coral health. Regional ocean temperatures can undergo large seasonal fluctuations (El Nino/La Nina), carbon dioxide absorption perturbations at sea level can lead to temporary changes in coral growth rates due to the changes in ocean acidification, and a small percentage of coral species can always become more or less adaptive to alterations in their ocean environment via the wonderful process of evolution!”
Buffalo Timmy: “Making huge predictions based on 30 years of data for a structure that is thousands of years old seems foolish.”
ComradeKayAdams: “No, it’s not foolish. We have a very detailed understanding of how all the various coral species react to water temperature and water acidity. Our understanding comes from both in-situ studies and laboratory research. The only major variables in play, really, besides disease are the trajectories of ocean temperatures and ocean acidity levels. Unfortunately, we know how those two are trending…well, that is the non-climate change deniers among us do.”
I am not a climate change denier- I simply do not believe man is at all equiped to stop it. We adapt or die. You keep stating we understand things so well but our predictions suck terribly, so you are definitely wrong somewhere in a big way.
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The worst thing about this study is they went straight from small correlation to complete causation. If they were to show one umpire is garbage and is racist I might believe it but this study says that one pitch every game is worse for minorities vs whites. No discussion of arm angles, pitch speed, catcher position, all things that effect close calls. This was a "study" with a decision made and then research to prove it.
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I just watched the highlights on NFL network and the 6 minute highlights did not have the Bills TD but showed an offside. Highlights looked good for our Defense.
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2 hours ago, Sundancer said:
This started with your statement,“Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.”
I said that was BS because it is. You cited articles that didn’t back that up or have been corrected, so I called BS again, and your response to that is, “Old people are dying of Covid,” which is true but about as relevant as me saying “Josh Allen wears number 17.”
Try to keep up.
The article about people in Orlando getting a third shot because they have no immunity left is not in support of what I said? Why is Israel giving a third shot if not for waning coverage? Please tell me how these two facts don't back me up?
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9 hours ago, SectionC3 said:
Hoax. I never said “proven.” Rule #2, please.
Dude your willingness to mock black people for not acting as you think so is racist.
1 hour ago, Mark92 said:OK "pal" 🙄, where did I mention the Georgia law? I'll wait for my beer on that one. Here is the the law in TEXAS that I was referring to. Sorry to make you actually read it. It kind of long and totally contradicts Facebook so that might be triggering to you. So be prepared to have an epic lib owning response 😘.
You go to the Georgia thread to discuss Texas and act surprised when people think you are discussing Georgia? Got it, smart people admit when they miss context.
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24 minutes ago, Sundancer said:
That is a complete and utter evasion of the nonsense I responded to.
Smart to totally change topics for your sake!
Wow your a tool- I did not change topics- you stated everything I linked to was focused on the most high risk. I simply pointed out that is main focus of smart people is high risk people. What did I evade? Your brilliance that those under 25 have virtually no risk, which has been known since March 2020.
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3 hours ago, Sundancer said:
The Israel data got corrected so that link is bunk. The booster so far is for…people with…wait for it….severely immuno compromised systems. Oh and your pre print Pfizer data on 23(!) people is about titers.
Waning is not “vaccines don’t last after 6 months.” And titers that wane mean next to nothing for the body to mount an immune response, which is why ALL studies have shown that so far, excepting immunity compromised people, vaccines remain robustly effective for all studied participants since they started studying patients.
You seem like a really well read science guy so I’m sure you’ve read the peer reviewed journal articles, right?
I think you think you are clever. Any discussion about Covid that does not focus almost exclusively on the high risk people is not worth having. Any discussion that tries to discuss the 1 in 50000 people as being nearly as important as the 1 in 50 is not worthy of time. Of the 600k deaths at least 550k are high risk people.
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3 hours ago, Sundancer said:
“Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.”
Patently false statement.https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients
I should have stated people who are keeping up with the news know, not people like you
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1 minute ago, ALF said:
Ok who are the majority of unvaccinated in the US
The group with the lowest vaccination rate is blacks. I have seen several reports it is less than 25% in parts of the country.
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3 hours ago, Sundancer said:
And an interesting preprint study on vaccines and mutations to watch.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.08.21261768v1
Findings The vaccination coverage rate is inversely correlated to the mutation frequency of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variants in 16 countries of 20 countries studied. We also discovered delta variants evolved differently under the positive selection pressure in the United Kingdom and India.
Meaning Full vaccination against COVID-19 is critical to suppress emergent mutations. Tajima’s D test score, with a threshold value as -2.50, can provide a promising tool to forecast new COVID-19 outbreaks.
What kind of dummy do you have to be to believe we can stop this thing from mutating? The vast majority of the world is not vaccinated and will not be for at least a decade, so if the mutations don't happen here they will happen elsewhere and then be brought here. Anyone who understands how virus work will understand that it will mutate differently for different populations. Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.
https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients
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2 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Texas Trib: 5,800 kids hospitalized in one week in Texas!! (Libs freak out)
Texas Trib later: Oh sorry, the number was actually 783 in a six-week period. (Libs ignore)
See how it works?
My next question is how many of the children are here illegally? What were their living conditions prior to getting ill? Nothing is being reported on how to fix the problem except getting a vaccine that we are now finding out last 6 months or less.
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1 minute ago, ALF said:
13.4% of US is black all ages. They are not the biggest unvaccinated group.
I clearly said you are blaming the vast majority of black people, not that blacks are the majority of non vaccinated. Your stat is not applicable to my comment.
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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:
And where does this quote come from?
Sorry that is key- Nikole Hannah-Jones who is the person who produced the 1619 project.
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1 hour ago, ALF said:
Not just mortality but long term damage from covid survivors for some. I still blame unvaccinated those over 12 for this terrible problem continuing .
Why are you blaming 75% of black people?
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29 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
I would agree with the teachers and politicians on both sides of the aisle. I just looked at the Buffalo schools 1619 initiative. It teaches history. Not CRT, history. And history that I never got when I was a kid. Slavery is unfortunately a part of our history.
I’ve always said that the 1619 Project is not a history. It is a work of journalism that explicitly seeks to challenge the national narrative and, therefore, the national memory. The project has always been as much about the present as it is the past.”
I think this quote shows it is not a history.
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18 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
It is not that it is not real, it is that it is not being taught in the curriculum of the secondary schools that I know of.
If you mean it is not the primary ciriculuum for most of the country that is correct, but it should not be allowed to ever be used. Buffalo is going to be teaching there children many things that are not true based on the choices they made. This is the other side of the old history books that discussed how wonderful life was for slaves, no more accurate
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8 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
No. We have an ex-teacher invading our local high school calling for parents to go after teachers by name because they have signs in their classrooms saying you have to wear masks (note: these are from last year, teachers haven’t come back yet). A guy showed up at a school board meeting and a loaded gun fell out of his pocket. And it’s all because of this manufactured CRT nonsense; it has started nonsense not just limited to CRT.
The district is not teaching CRT. They have no plans to do so. They have said this repeatedly. But some parents egged on by this quasi-organization led by some lawyer in Chicago keep on this because they want to use kids to play politics.Your question of what if it were true is misplaced. It’s not true, bottom line. If there were something as a parent I found wrong, I’d do what I’ve done a couple times. Request a meeting with the teacher, then theoretically the principal, then the superintendent, and then the school board if I felt I needed to. And only one time did I not get a satisfactory answer from a parent and have to have an associate principal get involved.
Your comment that CRT is not real is stupid, and I don't use it lightly. Buffalo city schools adopted the 1619 project as the basis for their history ciriculuum, which is not history but a narrative. It might not be that widespread but it is a problem that was becoming worse and now is being stopped in it's track. As for the parents that are using their kids as political pawns, I don't respect them but when I am told math is racist roots- which I have been told - I get pissed at intentional ignorance.
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30 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
We’ve been waiting for proof as to what makes this Jim Crow on steroids for months now. Talk about being upstaged.I think he was discussing the principal in Atlanta who was segregating her kids based on race. Correct city, correct problem, wrong people causing problem.
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
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I know there is not consensus but please answer this: why is Israel giving booster shots at this time? Or do you believe Israel is an incompetent country?