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  1. 11 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

     

    Flutie was a great QB, that is in the CFL.

     

    I have already written this in this thread but once again... Flutie was a me first guy, it was more about Flutie than it was the team.  He purposely polarized the lockeroom against rob Johnson (and he got away with it because Wade Philips is a great coach but doesnt have the balls often to stand up to people).   When flutie was benched he pouted on the bench like an 8 yr old girl, refused to help, he is the definition of an unprofessional and a selfish spoiled brat player.  As maligned as rob johnson is around here he engineered one of the great Bills playoff comabacks and easily could have gone all the way to the Super Bowl, had not the music City Miracle fiasco  happened..then the ENTIRe Rob johnson-Doug Flutie Narrative could be dramatically different.

     

    so the me first guy inspired his teammates to win 10 in a row after starting 0-3? i will stand by the fact that flutie had a 60% win history and Johnson was about 35% with similar talent.

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  2. 4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

     

    1) W/L is a TEAM Stat, not just a QB Stat.  He had one of the great defenses the Bills ever had.

     

    2) His one time in the playoffs he choked fumbled away the game on the 5 yard line, win-less in post season.

     

    3) Figure it out for yourself,  your best "selling " point is he was better than rob Johnson.

    what did Flutie do to you? you are picking one play to rip him apart? he had thrown for 360 yards but it is his fault Andre Reed ran into an official at the 1 yd line. Dude could play- just because he is Drew Brees does not mean he was not a great QB

  3. 19 hours ago, Brother Hesekiah said:

     

     

    The BILLS won games because they had a top-5 defense in 1998 and 1999 and Flutie and the rest of the offense did just enough not to lose.

     

    In addition to letting Flutie go, the Bills had to purge their roster after the 1999 season due to salary cap issues. They missed the playoffs for 17 straight years because management was never able to restock the cupboard after that.

     

    Flutie correlation is not Flutie causation.

    Rob Johnson was 0-3 and Flutie went 11-2 you can argue how much he was responsible for but he was good and he was a big portion of the causation.

  4. 11 hours ago, Gugny said:

     

    He dismantled a top 3 defense by hiring Rex Ryan, and in the process set a record for season ticket sales.  He's a money guy.

    i am sorry but that is an example of poor management at worst- Marrones opted out so the top 3 Defense was not staying. Also your argument of an additional 5 million a year in ticket sales matters to a dude who dropped 300 million fixing up downtown Buffalo makes it clear you have made up your mind and no evidence will show you otherwise

  5. 29 minutes ago, Gugny said:

     

    The Bills are owned by a man who loves one thing and one thing only - money.  And he'll do anything for more.  Anything.

    I disagree- at this point I think Pegula is more worried about legacy than money- he has like $6 billion I believe. I do not think he will move the team from Buffalo unless the city and state give him a terrible deal. 

  6. 3 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

     

    So how do these students in your area you mention benefit?  Teaching methods are better or is it that they are surrounded by peer students who are more devoted to learning?

    one part is they are surrounded by more dedicated peers which helps. There is very little thought from the community of the concept " that school is full of losers and no one wants to teach there". I do not know why else, my sons high school will send a bunch to Ivy league schools and other impressive schools while being a great sport school and offering top flight extra curricular oppurtunities. one item i think might be part of it is that more students have ability to change schools if they would like.

  7. 1 hour ago, row_33 said:

     

    all the school stats are rigged and tampered with, nothing is to be trusted

     

    i am a teacher and i have many relatives still in western new york and i will say from first hand experience that the opportunities given to kids down here are much better educationally then my school age relatives up north, and some live in Williamsville and Clarence. while the stats can be manipulated i can tell you here it has benefitted the minority population and has been overall good. i have no idea about elsewhere.

  8. 2 hours ago, Foxx said:

    does busing work? look at the 10th ward before busing in the early 80's and look at it today. i guess the objective is the only question whether or not it worked.

    i can not speak of every situation but Orlando/Orange County have bussing all over the county and overall it is good for education purposes- we have less failing schools than Buffalo and several top level public schools- better than anything in Buffalo except possibly Buffalo Honors.

  9. 8 hours ago, Hedge said:

     

     

     

    I found a sneak preview of it:

     

     

    obviously this lady and any rational person have different definitions of "heartbreaking and repugnant" but i do wish Trump was not doing this because it does look too similar to NK and Nazi crap. that being said as long as he keeps me safe and keeps the economy humming along i will vote for him next year without a second thought. he does well on big things but fails on so many little things. 

  10. 4 hours ago, JoeF said:

    Just curious, but a related question, how much of a PSL fee would the season ticket holders on the board be willing to pay?  How much of a PSL fee will the WNY market support? 

    Just doing some math...a $5,000 per seat PSL fee for 50000 seats generates $250M in upfront cash.  Remember a PSL is a right to buy seasons -- the season fee is in addition. 

     

    Is that enough of a "local contribution" to match the Pegula contribution; the NFL financing and a State of NY contribution?  The $5000 per seat is really low compared to other markets....I know its one of the questions on the stadium survey and I believe that the board likely represents a higher economic status than the average of the fan base, but I am just interested.

     

    I am sure the "Internet Content Should be Free" crowd will weigh in at "0" PSL fee (just kidding guys and gals) ?

    i am curious myself because it is a hard sell for a team to force a long term commitment on a fanbase that has has one playoff birth in the last 20 years.

  11. 5 hours ago, billykay said:

    How much does it cost to add a roof?

    How much more to make it retractable?

    Will the extra cost pay for itself in an expansion of its usage?

    you make a valid point- i can not imagine the retractable roof will be worth 100 million in extra opportunities so i like the idea of a fixed roof.

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  12. 14 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

     

    ...seriously?...in my current position serving as CFO/IT Ops Director and on the Executive Board for the last 20 years, if I offered up a 3 or 5 year business plan and we went belly up in four months, I'd be wrapping your Big Mac and handing you the biggie fries through the window.....

    i think we need a sarcasm indicator- i was trying to imply that who ever set this up was much lazier than madoff.

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  13. 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

     

    ...the AAF was a BIGGER disaster than Chernobyl......Madoff had to write the business plan...next up is Vince and the XFL........stay tuned...............

    HEY nobody died here- just a bunch of careers. also give Madoff some credit be was able to string along his fake career for decades- this was set up by someone with much less ambition.

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  14. i am a math teacher and i love statistics but social equity is completely unrelated to fan base devotion. i do not care what twitter has to say about the Bills or any of the teams in other sports i root for. but any fan base score that creates a way too put Miami, 49ers, and Atl over Buffalo and KC is absurd. in ATL and Miami there are as many Bills fans as local fans.

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