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I definitely agree that incompetence is possible here but how is it possible that this level of incompetence is happening? The SS truly has one job and to do it that poorly should be the end of many careers

This whole situation is making the SS look like it is run by lazy incompetent dopes. We had three snipers inside one building? We had no one on any of the roofs to the right of Trump? Nothing about this gives me confidence that the SS is up to the task.

This whole situation is defined by either liberals trying to kill Trump or by gross incompetence by people appointed by Biden, either way Biden is the bad guy in a manner that no president has been responsible for since Teddy Roosevelt.

So you in one post are arguing they would eliminate the guy and in another post stating they would wait? Those two thoughts are exclusionary of each other in this case, the shooter was not where SS could make sure he was not a threat without shooting him. If your point is the SS would rather not kill civilians then ok, but that is barely related to this situation and not worth adding to the conversation.

This you? Why would you comment if you have zero idea what you are talking about? You can call me immature, but you tried to present yourself as having dealt with these guys. They don't discuss exact protocols with most people but step one is protect President then step two eliminate threat, however needed. Trump per protocol should have been removed the moment shooter was seen on roof, and then threat eliminated.

I have learned more about this in past 24 hours than I knew but due to manpower the SS directs local law enforcement on what they need to do for security outside the immediate area. These officers are incompetent and if the latest news is true they are also cowards.

You believe the SS has allowed men with guns to be anywhere near the president without taking them down immediately? This is why I insulted you, your comment is ignorant and you are pretending you know what the SS does when you seem to think they act as normal cops.

An assault rifle to me is one that is fully automatic, which is not an AR, which is already illegal for most people. With this being a fact what stupidity are you rambling about?

Are you trying to argue the MSM was more accurate yesterday? At 740 pm yesterday on the radio NBC was still running the idea that a loud noise was what prompted the Trump reaction. Through Twitter my son had already seen the video of the shots around 7 pm. Let this concept die the MSM is hot garbage, it can be fixed but it is a long way from it.

Are you mentally challenged? A guy who openly is carrying a weapon in that situation you shoot immediately. If you statement was our actual policy every suicidal killer would just keep taking shots at every president from wherever they could. The policy is once the SD see a gun the president is covered and the person is neutralized by any means necessary. If you are going to tell me that is not the SS policy I know you are full of crap, because I do know retired agents and they have given me that much info.

I know that several fake accounts have been created, is there any reason to believe that one is real? I don't do Instagram so I am not sure how we know.

Where are you getting the Epstein part?

I recommend not arguing with him- he lied and said no one died or was hit. One is dead and one is hospitalized but he doesn't believe that.

I thought I had read this before, but could not recall where, so thanks for confirming.

To those who know anything about the SS, would they relate the information if one of there own men was killed prior to the shots at Trump? To me that is most likely explanation, the guy got the drop on one agent, and then acted enough like a SS agent that the others thought he was one of them.

Your argument is truly the same as Dems in the 1860s with slavery- what will the market bear? You show how immoral you are when you try to be clever

The violence is 90% started by liberals. Please stop pretending the two sides are equal that way.

Your responses are always Trumpian except for you never make a point. You buy fruits and vegetables picked by illegals, and they are certainly cheaper for you, the simple fact that one aspect of your life is not scummy does not absolve of the mess your side makes.

I will be blocking you now, you have no evidence of this but still run with your stupid immoral thoughts

You are true proud Dem and would have been one 160 years ago also. You are actually proud of under paying someone so long as you profit from it. You like having the two tier economic system so long as you benefit.

This is not true in FL anymore. Our cost for housing repairs and lawn maintenance has gone up a little in the past year since we past a law making hiring illegals much worse punishments. Somehow my lawn is still being cut and houses are being built faster than anywhere else in country. The answers are here but you choose to ignore it. https://apnews.com/article/florida-immigration-desantis-5f681e0332c08325e3e7cd094fc7d3aa

This topic would be like arguing the Bills have the highest points differential during the season, cool stat but ultimately means nothing. @Tiberius knows it but he has to cling to something.

You believe the illegals coming over "make America great"?

Did we ever get to the point where someone is know have allowed real bullets on a movie set? I have dealt with enough theatre people to know that you don't have live ammo anywhere near the set for any reason. The problem starts there, so if Baldwin allowed it, and then held the gun he is responsible.

What are you stating? That there is no difference between boys and girls in general? Are you just trolling today?