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End? This?

The surprise attack on Americans in Nam in '68 after Johnson had been running around saying the enemy had met his master! Tet exploded all across Vietnam and no one told us the enemy was stocking up on arms, our troops slaughtered the Vietcong, but it was a political disaster for LBJ

Reminds me of Tet offensive

It was pretty low tech, but well organized. It was not a high tech attack at all. Hamas could of planned this themselves. Don't see why Iran had to be involved. They sent people over the boarder on a raid, basically. It was almost medieval.

We'll see.

They didn't talk on cell phones, is my guess. I read about a war game where one side did that, just used hand written messages, light signals etc.

I don't buy the Iran gave the green light, but ya, I'm sure there was material support. I remember the Saddam was in on 9-11 lie that came from "informed sources" Maybe they did, but I'm not there yet

No you don't. You don't know anything

If I heard that right, the Israeli cabinet has declared to de-Hamas gaza militarily and politically. Iran might not be too involved, Hamas is Sunni and Iran Shitte, and Hezbollah which is very much controlled by Iran isn't doing anything. Hamas might of done this largely on their own. Just saying, this might not go regional, good news for Israel anyway. Consistancy? Like all those rapes, kidnappings and murders the Russians are doing on a longer scale, but you want to cut off aid to Ukraine

Are you drunk?

Agreed, but to be fair to Israel, Hamas is totally built of idea of eliminating Israel. And they control that open air prison called Gaza. I don't see any peaceful solution here

The U.S. and Iranian governments moved to de-escalate tensions on Friday after the two nations reached the brink of war, with President Donald Trump confirming that U.S. forces were “cocked & loaded” to retaliate against Tehran’s downing of a U.S. military drone. Trump called off the planned attacks on three separate sites in Iran just 10 minutes before go time, after learning that the strikes would kill 150 people, the president said in a tweet Friday morning. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/06/21/trump-fearing-casualties-aborts-iran-strike-at-last-minute/ Sure something, but I doubt they knew anything of actual plan. A major operation like this with so many people and roles, Hamas and co. kept this close to their chest. No doubt they used low tech methods to communicate How would that work? Who would they hit?

Maybe, but I also think a goal here is to literally destroy Israel. This is an existential threat that is serious. Not that Hamas can win today or tomorrow, but in less than ten years. Hamas planned this out really well and they must know and have known Israel will have to invade Gaza. That might turn into the biggest nightmare possible for Israel. Hamas is probably ready will all sorts of really horrible weapons, ambushes and mines. Have not read that yet!

One thing that makes me think Russia was not involved is that it was all kept so secret. I read this Malcom Gladwell book, "Blink" and he discussed a war game against Iran and the US guy who was "iran" in the war game totally went off the grid to communicate and operated like that, which totally confused the "American" side in the game. I wonder if the Iranians read that? It is what they did. But, if Russia knew, they only knew vague details. Remember, Trump was super close to going to war with Iran, so now Iran is helping Russia and probably funding and leading all this against Israel. Speculation all, of course, except about Trump

I don't see how Israel survives this long term. Enemies that are getting stronger, growing Palestian population in their country, their border has been breached which will freak out many and they will live. The fundies-religious in the country don't even serve in military but demand more land from the Pals, Pals are growing stronger in the populations of Europe. Hamas will never change, Israel has to wiped them out without massacring civilians or hostages. @Irv What a mess!

This is in Israel. Won't last for long, I bet. Israel will declare martial law soon, I would guess

Gees, why was there an intelligence failure over this? Maybe lack of cooperation?

And go where?

Totally agree. But twitter can report just about anything, the news media gets hammered if they do that and rumors turn out untrue

Energy Minister Israel Katz ordered Israel’s state-run electric company to cut power to Gaza after Saturday’s attacks. “I signed the order instructing the electric company to stop supplying electricity to the Gaza Strip. What was will not be,” Katz said in a statement posted on X. While there’s a power station in Gaza, it relies heavily on power from Israel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/07/israel-gaza-rocket-attack-hamas/#link-F23ZAVTFTREYDMNCCL4CARNPXI

Ya, and those wanting to see the football game were probably pissed they were even bothered with this foreign event, put the game back on!