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I had Dolphins fans texting me asking why the league wants Buffalo to lose. That says all you need to hear. It’s not just Bills fans.. the football world knows we got screwed on multiple calls and should have won that game.
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He caught the ball. Two feet down. And on the broadcast… but he didn’t make a 3rd move. So how many moves does it take to make a catch? Unless of course your a Bill.. then it’s a penalty against Buffalo for.. make up excuse.. it was a ***** officiated game.
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16 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
Smallest market in the league?
Maybe? Gotta be a reason we keep getting screwed.
Diggs should just wear a jersey that tears away... so when they hold. He just loses his jersey but isn't stopped16 minutes ago, BananaB said:3 games this year, twice today. They also had two games within one score where our D couldn’t make a stop at the end to give the O another opportunity.
exactly. And people are gonna talk about Josh’s interception
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Just came here to say…
Twice again.. Josh left the field with the lead only to watch the defense piss the game away.
Is it time for McD to recognize that he needs an actual defensive coordinator?
The Bills will never win anything as long as Roger Goodell is the cigarette smoking man’s doppelgänger. The league made sure the Bills would not win this game! The defense did their part to blow it… but the league made sure it would not be a Bills win.
so… what did we do to perennially piss off the league officials? And how do we get a real DC in here?
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14 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:
I think it just comes down to the trenches like most games. If we can hold our own on both lines, there’s a very good chance we win. If we get dominated on either one it’s going to be a very long day.
Pretty much agree. The Eagles are the number 1 rush defense because of their D-line. They also generate a lot of pass rush. Find a way to run and give just an extra second is key.
Conversely,our D-line needs to pressure Hurts while containing the edges.
That and win the turnover battle.
It’s just that simple.
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48 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
I believe holding Josh back from running is definitely a part of the problem for sure. That was a collective agreement it would seem between McD, Dorsey and probably to a lesser extent, Allen.
I think the thing we are all going to be looking to see is if it looks like the same offensive scheme/play calling that we have been seeing for the past 6 weeks. Simplified, dumbed down concepts with little to no creativity. By no means do I think that Brady is going to be able to change that on a short week but we might see a flash of something here or there. That's where I feel like Dorsey could be the root of the problem and not just the running.
If it turns out all they had to do was let Josh run and the scheme/play calling look the same, then yes, I absolutely agree that he was "sacrificed" as a result of their own decisions.
I think just having 5ish designed runs by Josh per game is all it would take to open the offense up considerably. I don’t think that’s all we need to do however. They have to get creative with their routes and scheme receivers open. Dorsey has done almost none of that. And it shows.
But with Josh a run threat a defender has to hesitate just a bit to watch him. And that, alone, made the predictable route formations easier to complete. Without a threat of Josh running, the defenses have been able play to our tendencies and jump routes far too often.
You don’t need creativity on every play. Or trick end arounds on every drive. But you need some! You need just enough to make the defense think and hesitate. And why, for the love of all that is holy, can they not complete a proper pick play concept and get someone running free for a simple 5yd completion or a gd screen pass. These are two play concepts that the Bills just can not do. And every successful team can.
If they add in the threat of Josh running, add in 1 pick play, and 2 screen passes… they could probably leave the rest of the offense as is and see dramatic improvement in every aspect.
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This is exactly what’s wrong with this place lately and why it’s becoming less and less of a place to come and get Bills news and discussion.
Too many people manufacture issues and make stuff up to prove some point they made up. Now we’re picking plays that are good. He ran the route he was supposed to. Josh makes an incredible throw. Gabe catches the ball and turns upfield for extra yards. …and that’s the reason you don’t like a player!?
This thread is emblematic of the state of this franchise among the fan base (at least here). There is soooo very little actual discussion of the team here lately. Just people with axes to grind and using every instance possible to restate their disdain for everything in the organization.
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Why does it seem like half the people here are hoping for a loss so they can enjoy their misery in full throat?
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30 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:
I don’t think the booth IR the sidelines will determine anything, but moreso how he calls the offense, and I’m not impressed. I can’t believe I’m writing this, but an Allen led offense is boring. Dorsey has a lot to do with it.
Joe Marino made a good point as well as Orlovsky last week in the option routes like the one Allen was nabbed for intentional grounding makes them play slower. Also, too much two by two on each side makes the Bills look predictable.
My thinking is the offense is highly predictable because of those option routes. There’s very little scheming guys open. Instead Dorsey relies on players making correct reads and adjusting routes on the fly. There’s a few problems if that is ..all.. the offense relies. 1. Defenses know what the offense is queuing in on, as well. So it’s really easy to bait them into certain routes and formations, and then jump the route and get interceptions. This, I suspect, is one of the reasons Josh has as many Ints as he does especially in the red zone.
2. Also, with so few formations and routes, the Bills Offense is just too easy for defenses. Hence, the better teams pretty much know exactly what is coming.
I would suggest our defense has gotten similarly stale. The good teams and QBs know exactly who is blitzing and how to attack the man combinations. In short, McD and company have to mix things up… one way or another.
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3 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:
To me this analysis shows the Bills have changed to a system offense that is predictable and too easy for defenses to read.
They have become productive in gaining yards but stale.
I am becoming a believer in the idea that Dorsey is the wrong coach.
I’ve been thinking this since mid last season. There’s been 2 things that have kept Dorsey and the Status Quo going since then:
1. Josh. He’s such a dynamic athlete that he can make chicken salad out of chicken *****. Look at the play where the 2 receivers run into each other and fall down… Josh keeps the play alive long enough to let Kincaid get up and hit him for a first down. Great play design! ..not
2. Against the weaker, incompetent teams; they rack up the stats and points. This keeps them in the top 5 of all key offensive statistics. So when they self scout and say… what needs to change on offense… they look at the stats and say… nothing. Just need to execute. Blah blah. But as pointed out in this video, Dorsey is relying on perfection for the offense to succeed. Perfect passes, perfect reads, routes, blocks, perfect everything… and against the better teams; that doesn’t cut it.
Hence we win more than we lose and run up the stats. Then get in the big games and fall flat against better players and coaches.
They need to make a change. Now or at the end of the season… I’m not sure it matters.
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1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
It really was ridiculous…I’m not trying to say we deserved to win but I have never seen a play like that not called a trip in my life. Then right after a play I have never seen called as intentional grounding is called as intentional grounding 😂 what are the odds
The thing is.. call that tripping penalty. Don’t call the intentional grounding. 3 pts almost assured.
call the facemask on Davis in the endzone.. ball on the 1. TD far more likely than a FG.
Thats 7 extra points and the difference in the game. And that’s not counting all the other holds not called and any of the other plays that may have happened had they not cut Bills drives short.
The league screwed us ..again.
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In all seriousness… why watch the games if the Referees are so blatantly call the game in favor of one team. This game was pathetic.
The Bills did enough to lose. But the Refs made sure it would never be close. This game reminded me of so many of our games against the Pats…. Everything they did was ignored… everything our boys thought about was called.
f’in bull####
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32 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:
Exactly what I want, because I am an eternal optimist, which is why when they don't perform I'm here often blaming the coaching.
This is a team that has had a very good chance to win the Superbowl the last three years and they have not.
Every playoff loss has been terrible (couldn't score vs. Jax, collapse vs. Houston, spanked by yes probably a better KC team, 13 seconds and an unmotivated, piss poor effort vs. Cincy).
To me me there is one common thread and that was the coaching/decisions/play calling.
Name me a game in the last 5 years where they really stepped up? I will say Dallas in 2019 & KC 2021 are the only ones
Really? So I guess scoring on every offensive drive in a playoff game doesn’t count? Stopping Lamar..in the playoffs? Shutting down and steamrolling a team that had just put up 70pts; yeah they just lucked into that. Rolling right through the Super Bowl champs on opening day… nothing? And that’s just me typing fast to board a plane.
Honestly… it’s bad statements like yours that makes me wonder if people actually watch the games. Or does everyone just spew whatever thought that comes into their head with no care or concern for reality? You’re upset with how you feel the team is playing. But let’s not rewrite history just to validate your feelings.
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I finally watched the Bucs game. If they play with the same offensive tempo and pace… there’s few teams that can stop them. Allen and the line were completely dialed in.
The defense is lacking… we’re missing 3 extremely important players at each level of the defense. That just is what that is. They seem to be getting better with what they have.. but there’s only so much you can do.
bottom line: absolutely no reason to think this game is a blowout for Cinci. Posters thinking that haven’t watched the Bills play.
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6 minutes ago, BRH said:
Funny how the national media didn't notice the London game was a lost home game for us until the Chiefs were also impacted.
Also, an easy way to discern the age of a poster is whether they're rooting against the Chiefs or the Fins next week. It's not foolproof, but I bet most people over 50 (like me) still hate Miami so much that we could never root for them except when their winning would guarantee us a playoff spot or seeding. And even then it would be difficult.
So true. LOL
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2 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:
I know it sounds weird but I prefer the Dolphins win. Unless the Chiefs win directly and clearly benefits the Bills, I always want them to lose.
@BRH is correct. Chiefs need to win… hopefully in a devastating way.
Best chance to make the playoffs is to win the division; we need the Fins to lose several so week 18 is a day off.
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The team is playing better than their fans are posting based on this place.
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I think it’s time to talk about Mahommes…. He just can’t read defenses. And doesn’t look engaged anymore.
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52 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
The reason it got so bad is despite the fact that the Bills should have clearly blown out the Bucs we somehow managed to find a way to potentially lose on the last play of the game. Having games like that every week is ***** exhausting.
On the positive the offense showed that it indeed can be very effective, they ran the fast tempo offense spreading the ball around giving Josh time to scan the defense and find the opening to dice them up. The Bucs slowed us down in the red zone through a combination of us going back to the bad play calling and them just having one of the best red zone defenses in the league. Defense also played well this game, they made a few mistakes but overall played a good game.
Problem was that once we got a 14 point lead in the second half, it seemed like we decided to stop doing what was working on offense to try and burn clock, which ironically did the opposite. So instead of a dominant win we watched the game end with us hanging on by our fingernails, and that's just frustrating. Which leads to fans to release that pent up frustration here.
Can agree with all that… but as I understand it, Josh likely aggravated his throwing shoulder. So maybe the idea was… let’s run the ball, hang on, and get out of here with no more injuries. ?? Bad idea? Maybe. But the notion that the McD is too conservative forgets all the games that they won by 3 or 4 scores, or all the times they have gone for it on 4th down, or basically anything based on reality and centers on… I don’t feel good about this.
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I was not able to watch the game because I was driving through mountains all day. Got home finally and read a few quick articles to see how the game went… who won, how the offense looked, etc. After 3 quick articles at NFL.com, cbs.com, and msn (I think); I was feeing pretty good and positive… almost as though the Bills looked good in a sound win.
Then I came here to read some of the local “fan” reaction, maybe get the views of some that attended the game (always love that perspective), and hope there was links to funny memes, post game conference clips, and the like. And wow… now I’m convinced the Bills lost. McD should be fired and we need to rebuild the team from the ground up. We sucked again and will be lucky to win another game all year.
In short, this place is becoming a cesspool of miserable takes, negativity, and reactions. How did TBD become so bad?
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Screw him and most anyone that thinks he deserves recognition for cheating his way to half those wins. He demonstrated all the worst qualities of a human being for most of his career. He’ll be in the hall of fame and I’ll have to listen to schmucks praise him forever, but he cheated, he lied, he gamed the system to win at all costs. That is the part of his legacy the leagues wants everyone to forget.
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6 minutes ago, Success said:
It was one of JA's few mistakes - but the pick on the 1st drive just set the tone for the whole game..
It gave the Pats such a boost. And it took us so long to get in rhythm after that.
But that is the kind of pick that tells me the defense is reading the play as well as the offense. And is why I say Dorsey’s offense - the routes, the formations, the play calls, the blocking gaps - all become too predictable. He relies on perfect execution. That gets you a lot of stalled drives. The best plays are when they go off script, and 4th quarter when Josh says everyone run around I’ll find you.
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18 minutes ago, Seventeen said:
And does anyone think the Bills would have won a Super Bowl with Mahomes instead of Allen over the last 5 years ?
No. If anyone thinks Mahommes would have identical success on any other team, they’re not grounded in reality.
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8 minutes ago, Success said:
The no huddle works when we do it.
Worked in the '90's, too.
Might be time. We something different. And it needs to be kind of radical.
I’m willing to try anything to get the offense out of Dorsey’s hands.
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Buffalo / Philly Postgame thread
in The Stadium Wall
Posted
Agreed. I think because it epitomized so many of this team’s failures and us fans’ torment.
1. The league clearly hates Buffalo or at least doesn’t care to call games fairly. There’s zero doubt the refs were biased against Buffalo in this game. I don’t have to point out all the bad calls and missed calls. The whole football viewing world saw it. But why are they so biased against us?
One theory I have is it’s Bills Mafia’s fault. The league knows we’re loyal and will follow the team through thick and thin. So they have zero incentive to see the Bills win, and can blatantly referee the game to maximize betting profits and league narratives. As a fan base we should really boycott the league until they fire this officiating crew.
2. We all lived through the 13 second game. We all have seen what can be done with 13 seconds on the clock. We had a chance, with 20 seconds… and kneeled down. You can’t create legends and legendary endings when you give up. McD gave up and we were robbed at the chance to have our legendary moment.
3. A 59 yard FG in the driving rain. It reminded me of the Dallas MNF game years ago when they beat us on an improbable last second, long ass FG. Why do other kickers always make those kicks against us, but our guy can’t even make relatively routine ones?
4. When we need it most, we have no playmakers other than Josh. We watch amazing highlight reel plays against us every week and watch our team lack that same ability.
We had a great play call after several runs, perfectly setting it up. Josh read the situation and makes a perfect pass. Cook runs right by the defender and is free and clear as the ball hits his hands… and he drops it.
Not once, but twice, WRs run the wrong route and Josh throws a great pass with perfect timing, placement and anticipation in the end zone. And the ball hits the turf because the WRs turned the wrong way.
The list could go on, but does it need to? The Bills lack focus. They lack playmakers that win games. Is it poor preparation or poor players? I don’t know but it’s on display time and time again. We watch other teams make the play to win the game, while our players.. drop the ball and we wonder why God hates us.
5. I woke up this morning with an image of Josh - dirty, soaking wet, jersey ripped. He looked tired and battered in the pouring rain. But it’s the way this team loses that is making us all so tired. We’ve seen it all. We’re battered, beaten, dirty and standing there - helpless - as the other team, coaches, fans get their legendary wins.
I imagine he is tired. I know I’m tired of seeing this same ending play out over and over again. This is a hard loss to get over for a number of reasons. Mostly because, once again, we were at the precipice of greatness just to have the league and our coach screw us out of that moment.