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1 hour ago, Success said:
How did we help the Chiefs?
Allowed them to move up and take a player they actually wanted.
yes, they may have still drafted him had they not traded up. But, they may not have had that opportunity. Clearly they thought there was a need to trade up to ensure they got him. We made sure that could happen. Is another later round pick really that great? I guess time will tell. But at some point all these brilliant moves need to at least get us to the championship game.
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35 minutes ago, Koufax said:
if you are worried about spiting the Chiefs more than improving your team then you are probably still in Norwood PTSD and should not be running a football team.
If they wanted Worthy or believed he was the best player at 28 they would have taken him. They did not. He is a player with one big skill and a lot of question marks. I hope he doesn’t work out but if we picked someone else at 28 and the Chiefs got him at 32 or traded up to 29 it wouldn’t be any different.
If you think he will be Tyreek Hill and not Marquise Goodwin or Ted Ginn you don’t just take him at 28, you move up to make sure. Tyreek is so much more than a forty time.
Both trades helped this team get better. There aren’t perfect receivers out of the top ten so you have to trust your evaluations and projections. We will see if the evaluations were right or if we missed the mark (happens dozens of times each draft) but I think the rationale and draft day specifics are spot on for these two trades, just like the move up for Kincaid was.
Remember the Lions drafting top five receiver busts over and over. Then picking Megatron anyway? If you let past draft trauma impact future choices instead of solid evaluations and strategy, you have already failed.It’s not about worrying about the Chiefs. It’s about not helping them. Of all the teams in the league that is the last team I would want to help. The only way you could possibly justify this is if you think getting a late round pick significantly improves the team. Just getting an extra pick doesn’t do that.
This is the same logic we saw for years with teams helping the pats with those stupid trades that allowed them to sustain a perennial Super Bowl winner.
I think this comes down to… you and others think the Bills FO are smarter than the one that has made the conference championship game every year, and won multiple Super Bowls. I’m of the opinion you don’t let that team do what they want in the draft because records currently show… they’re making better decisions than you.
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3 hours ago, NoSaint said:
Yea, if worthy ends up a star it’s going to be an all time historic blunder to keep feeding Kansas City key pieces at our own needsI don’t think there’s any way any one can justify why Beane would trade with KC, so they can get the 1st round player they wanted. Whether he ends up good or bad. This is just a classically stupid move. Unless you get a stupid compensation like their 1st for the next 2 years, you absolutely do not do anything to help the team that ends your season more often than not.
For me, it’s not that we moved out of the first round. It’s that we gave KC a boost so that we can move behind them. Classic case of thinking you’re smarter than the guy that keeps winning Super Bowls while you’re sittin home with nothin to do.
I’m quickly losing all faith in the Bills’ FO and HC to have a clue.
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Babich seems like one of the up and coming young coaches in the league. So in that sense, this should be good. However, he’s also been part of an organization that can’t seem to play with the big boys in the playoffs.
So, what is he going to do differently from what has been done for the last 5 or so years to help us get over the hump? Is he going to be able to adjust and find a way to beat teams like the chiefs or a hot bengals team in the playoffs?
As someone that experienced every horrible game and offseason move since our last Super Bowl visit, I’m not in a hurry to blow up the staff or roster. However, they simply cannot keep returning with the same philosophies and game plans and expect to ever get past teams like the Chiefs. There needs to be some serious self assessment and changes made. So far… can anyone say we’re seeing that?
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I’m ok with this…. Pretty much expected it since we beat the Cowboys.
I’m more interested in who they hire as the DC. We need a new defensive philosophy more than we need a major change in Offense.
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Just came here to say ***** the Chiefs…
so much for parity. The league is once again dominated by one team.
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Thought it was interesting Beane said the defense didn’t play well vs KC. I know it’s not shocking but still an interesting comment to make.
Thats kinda like acknowledging water is wet. The defense did absolutely nothing against KC. To be fair, he should’ve said, “the defense sucked balls against KC and we’re going to look at a new DC that can run different schemes because this revolutionary McD defense has gotten us booted from the playoffs for 4 consecutive years.”
it just sucks that after 6 years And desperately needing offensive weapons and a new center in the draft… It feels like we
need to draft/sign players at every position on defense. Thats how bad they were.
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As I lay in bed after a crappy night’s sleep thinking to myself ..why do I keep doing this? I genuinely thought we could win yesterday. But with that thought also came my thoughts of… I knew we needed to score a TD before the half. Because Andy Reid was going to make adjustments and we wouldn’t. So we needed at least a 2 score lead to have a chance. And secondly, I know the FG try was technically the right call under 2mins. But there’s not a fan among us that truly thinks we could have held KC with that much time on the clock. We needed to go for the TD, regardless, just to give ourselves a chance.
So, with all that said, there’s no way we should just walk back the same team and staff next year. It’s been too long and we’ve seen the same mistakes over and over. I’m not necessarily advocating for a 100% dismantling. But we need, at a minimum, new OC, DC and Special Teams coach.
Other than Shakir, all new WRs. A RB that can catch. A new center, maybe RT. On Defense, we need several new DL, at least half of them need to go. We have Oliver, Jones, and Epeneza and Rousseau. ? That’s about it. All new secondary, and better LB depth incase Milano doesn’t return to form.
So what’s that.. a 70% rebuild? It needs to be significant. I know they can’t do that all in one year… but maybe? I’d start with the coaches and go from there. Yeah next season we suck… but the results will be the same… watching Mahomes and whoever else run all over is the playoffs really isn’t that much fun.
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25 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:
Yeah but this is the irony, the first Bills playoff exit against the Chiefs was because they were one-dimensional. They couldn't run the ball, KC stayed in shell defense. They weren't a ton better running in the 13-seconds game but Allen was a damn juggernaut and they hit deep shots (and they had open receivers!!!)
The Bills lost this game because they were one-dimensional. Except this time, it was the running game that was their one dimension. The jumbo set was unstoppable all game until KC stacked the box, making themself vulnerable to getting beat over the top - the Bills were looking for that. The 3 shots they did take were all there, they were executed on all levels by everyone but the receiver. Maybe with Davis (or a legit #2) they hit one. Maybe hitting one, they win the game.
Still woulda concussed your quarterback, Alex Soros
And that’s it…. Every team in the league has WRs that can catch those passes, the Bills do not. Heck even that MVS dude with KC made an awesome over the shoulder catch downfield while being blanketed by Taron… and all I’ve heard about that dude is how bad he sucks.
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23 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:
If you want to win a Super Bowl you have to make plays
Diggs didn't
Sherfield didn't
The entire defensive line didn't
Bass didn't
This team had injuries. Those injuries mattered. But at the end of the day if one or two guys make a play we are headed to Baltimore
IMO, this sums it all up. The Bills do not have any playmakers. When needed most, everyone not named Allen or Shakir came up small.
We just don’t have any WR that can catch a contested ball. We don’t have a defensive line that can generate any pressure. Cook for all his ability, just came up small.
Another year ends the same as the last 4. Why? The Bills coaches can’t make adjustments and get out schemed. And we don’t have players that can overcome that and just make a play when it’s needed most.
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1 minute ago, Gugny said:
Josh is the reason we almost won. But he’s also the primary reason we lost.
Yes - we need better wide receivers.
But throwing 50 yard bombs was simply not necessary.
Move the damn chains.
Completely disagree. You do all the runs and short stuff….to set up those down field plays. It worked perfectly! And Josh made perfect throws .. and Sherfield, Diggs, and cook dropped them. Again!
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1 minute ago, Murdox said:
Well, I think you can say that if Allen is the sole reason we win or lose. And, if you believe that, then you must agree we need to improve aspects of this team. We need a WR who can get consistent separation against man defenses. We also need our D to get healthy.
I do wish Josh threw the ball underneath to Diggs at the end there as we needed one more first down to ensure we wouldn't give the Chiefs much time at all if we had to kick the FG, and the kick would have been closer.
I’d settle for a WR that can actually catch the *****in ball that hits him in the *****in hands! ***** separation… these guys can’t catch
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I just came here to say…. Beane better get some damn receivers that catch the *****in ball when it’s lands perfectly in both their *****in hands. I am so *****in sick of seeing the opposition make perfect *****in receptions with perfect *****in coverage… and our receivers drop ***** that literally hits both of their *****in hands.
And cut Bass. Wtf.
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53 minutes ago, Simon said:
While this is true, it also means that at some point tomorrow he's probably going to make an upside down, one-handed, behind the back catch between three defenders on 3rd/20.
It never fails… no matter how crappy the QB or how average the WR…. every game they make 1 or 2 throws or catches that has me shaking my head and wondering… why can’t our receivers adjust and make a catch like that!
Diggs is the only one that occasionally makes that amazing play. Everyone else… they need the ball placed perfectly. And even then, I’m often surprised when they don’t drop it.
If this teams lacks anything… it’s playmakers that elevate their game and make that seemingly impossible play. Outside of Josh we have no one on offense or defense that does that consistently.
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1 hour ago, njbuff said:
KC will not be overwhelmed.They have been in plenty of hostile environments before. It hasn’t been in the playoffs, but they’ve won two SB’s and have been to another.
The Rich Stadium environment will help the Bills more than it will overwhelm KC.
I was at the 13 second game…
same endzone that Josh performed miracles in the 4th quarter. All I can say is I don’t know how loud it is on the field, but 30 or so rows up… that place was deafening! When Josh was down there doing his thing… I couldn’t hear anything, the stands were literally shaking making it hard to even see clearly. I have no idea how the offense could operate in that environment. But they did!!
I hope the Chiefs get a taste of that on Sunday! I won’t be there, but I hope Bills Mafia brings it and makes it just as deafening and hostile as they made it for our boys!
We’ve all waited 2 years for this! Bring it and take no prisoners!!
GO BILLS!!
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51 minutes ago, Success said:
The media is in such overdrive about how big of a "legacy" game this is for Allen and the Bills, and the whole "if they can't beat KC now, when will they ever?"
It's truly annoying. We lost one game we should have lost in the AFCCG, and then lost to a coin flip.
If we get the W Sunday - the narrative should shift significantly. It will likely become that KC has NOT won since 13 seconds, can't beat the Bills in the regular season, and can't beat the Bills in the playoffs anymore.
Looking forward to that narrative.
This is absolutely a legacy type game for Buffalo. 4 consecutive divisional round games. The last 2 they lost. Haven’t beaten Mahommes in the playoffs.
The Bills are easily one of the top 2, maybe # 1 depending upon which metrics you use, teams in the regular season for the last 4 years. But, they have to get over this playoff hump. This is the year to do it! Beat Mahommies, get to the AFCCG! Do that and its no longer just Bills Mafia saying Josh is the best. Do that and you quiet all the critics that say McD can’t get it done.
The entire season has been about this game. Take it! Advance and send KC home to watch you play next week. (…then next week becomes the legacy defining game. lol )
20 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:Seeing that in print… hurt.
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5 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:
Anyone think the Bills might inconvenience themselves by doubling Kelce this game since the KC receivers are relatively weak? I know Rice and Pacheo may be an issue but the Bills cannot allow Kelce to run free all game with a banged-up LB group.
Agreed. If Douglas is playing, and healthy, I’m not terribly worried about Rice.
My concern with their run game is if/when the run outside. That will pretty much negate our stout DTs. Hopefully, McD realizes they’re going to try and run outside the tackles and comes up with a solid counter that doesn’t include leaving Kelce one on one with a LB.
if they can’t stop the outside runs and/or let Kelce release off the line untouched… it’ll be a long game. Surely we’re game planning to stop all that.
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23 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
If Knox catches that ball to start the 3rd quarter I feel like we win by 24 points.
Also the blocked FG made it closer than it had to be. But to me never really in doubt.
The blocked FG and near 30yard chase back to jump on it was a huge momentum shift in the game. It gave the Steelers life and reinforced the notion that if they could get one more turnover they could steal a win.
Had Bass made that kick, the game was over. Instead, it lifted the Steelers and signaled the dog fight that was the 3rd quarter.
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39 minutes ago, haroldwaide said:
Most, if but all cold weather teams have fans shovel out the stadium and if guess off without a hitch. Unfortunately, the snow didn't end untill a few hours before kickoff and there was this pesky travel ban in place so almost nobody could get to the stadium...it was a number of things all coming together at once that caused what happened in the stadium yesterday.
In my section, at least, everyone pitched in to clear the snow as we came in.
Also, that was a lot of snow, with a lot of moisture. Melting all of that would have caused huge puddles if water. Not only is that the worst for keeping feet warm, but in temps like we had yesterday, the stadium would have become a skating rink for drunk people which, while fun to watch, is a huge liability for the Bills...
Good points!
39 minutes ago, haroldwaide said:Most, if but all cold weather teams have fans shovel out the stadium and if guess off without a hitch. Unfortunately, the snow didn't end untill a few hours before kickoff and there was this pesky travel ban in place so almost nobody could get to the stadium...it was a number of things all coming together at once that caused what happened in the stadium yesterday.
In my section, at least, everyone pitched in to clear the snow as we came in.
Also, that was a lot of snow, with a lot of moisture. Melting all of that would have caused huge puddles if water. Not only is that the worst for keeping feet warm, but in temps like we had yesterday, the stadium would have become a skating rink for drunk people which, while fun to watch, is a huge liability for the Bills...
Good points!
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41 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I would love to see a pricing breakdown.
I absolutely hated his press release on the new stadium. He basically said no roof because football should be played outdoors. Hated that comment.
With all due respect, it would be nice to see all sorts of financials from billion $ industries and individuals. But that’s not for us lowly people. We just live in this world, they control it. We don’t see price breakdowns from simple government funded projects, no way we’d ever see something here.
35 minutes ago, Logic said:To be fair....
...An organization as financially lucrative as the Buffalo Bills should not need to crowdsource the snow shoveling efforts for their stadium. They ought to be able to afford to hire professional grounds maintenance professionals and put greater capital and effort into ensuring that the customers of their product who pay $150+ for seats don't have to sit on a foot of snow.
But that's just like, my opinion, man...I had several friends text me, astonished how good the field and stadium looked. I think they did an admirable job! Now… I wasn’t in the stands and didn’t have to wade through a couple feet of snow to clear a seat. But when the snow stops less than 12hrs from kickoff, there’s only so much that can be done. I still say they did an awesome job in every way to pull that game off.
The city, the team and the people of western New York are the standard for all other cold weather teams!
26 minutes ago, spartan19 said:I wish he would have appreciated us enough to help with the shuttle busses back to McKinley Mall. Total crap show, drivers didn't know where pickup was after the game. We were told to go to Gate 2, which was wrong, then sent between Gates 4 and 5. Nobody knew of the shuttles over there, so people were stranded. I ended up walking the 50 minutes with my son in less than ideal conditions. I'm not sure how the shuttles could have been run any poorer than they were. Not a good look for a billion dollar franchise.
Agreed, and perhaps in contrast to my statement above, I think the team should just do more to game plan for the weather. Better planning, year in and year out with bus schedules clearly posted and set for every game so that just becomes a routine for some. They also need a means to more easily clear snow from the seats? Heaters throughout the stands? There’s plenty of ideas to toss out. But, it seems apparent that they should build some sort of plan into handling snow and fan access to and from the stadium into the new stadium.
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2 hours ago, ddaryl said:
this angle puts to rest any thought of it being a fake slide. Clearly a stutter step allowing his blockers to make a block.. then he turns on the jets!/thread.
Shut ‘er down
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2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:
Battle tested McD team is 4-5 in the playoffs which is a 44% win percentage. Moreover, the last two years of playoff games ended really poorly.
I'm not saying the Bills are going to lose.
Appreciate the optimism but let's paint a clear picture here.
Just wanna say… your comments suck. You should drink more and post less.
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23 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
I hate that the idea of Buffalo becoming a pain in the ass to the league. Recent years events, and now this one potentially, leads one to wonder if some in the league office need this kind of fuel.
I look at it the other way… the league needs to be smart when they schedule games. I know you can never 100% predict the weather. But they don’t consider weather at all, it seems.
KC shoulda been the early game yesterday. And Houston, playing in a dome, the night game. There’s a world of difference between freezing temps at 2pm vs 8pm. And it’s even more dramatic when you consider 10ish pm when the game ends and then fans have to drive home. But we all know why KC was the primetime game.
Even more so… had they considered the long range forecast last week when making the schedule, I would bet Saturday looked like less snow for Buffalo than Sunday. Had the game been played yesterday rather than today… it goes off with no real concern.
Maybe eventually they’ll wise up and consider more than just TV ratings in their scheduling, but I doubt it. The networks pay too much. So I don’t see this as a Buffalo problem but a league problem for not considering the very real impact that weather has on a game and fan attendance.
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1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:
I hate that the game is postponed and all the stuff that it brings. However, no one should be trying to play a game with weather like that! Hopefully it clears out enough by tomorrow.
Go Bills!!!
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Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
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They possibly gave it up for nothing. I agree. But they may have lost the WR they wanted. Agreed, we’ll never know now.
Either way we allowed the team that kicks our ass in the playoffs every year to work their board the way they wanted.