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The answer is always … 3.5.
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My mother almost died (technically she kinda did) a couple years ago. One of the many thoughts that went through my head was I would never get to see or experience the joy of the Bills winning a Superbowl with her. She pulled through and is still kicking. So for me… it’s hard to put a price tag on what that moment would mean to our family. So I would need something along the lines of Josh’s contract size to make me consider taking the money.
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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
a year ago, it was calculated as half as much. https://www.thelines.com/nfl-schedule-release-cost-streaming-sunday-ticket-peacock-netflix-amazon-prime-2024/
YouTube TV basic package: $73/month ($438 total)
NFL Sunday Ticket: $239/year
Amazon Prime Video: $15/month ($75 total)
Peacock Premium subscription: $6/month ($6 total)
Netflix standard subscription: $15.50/month ($15.50 total)
Est. taxes and fees: $92.50
Grand total to watch every NFL game this season: $866
As many have pointed out, you can get Sunday ticket stand alone. also, not sure why ESPN is listed at $105 when it's included in YTTV, for example.
anyway, 20 of 272 games were streamed last year. how many fans typically seek to watch every game of the season?? Hopeless gamblers maybe.
also, complaining about the "greed" of the NFL falls flat. they have a wildly popular product that is in endlessly increasing demand. Why shouldn't they get what the market will bear? if you absolutely feel you must see every single NF game, , then you will pay for that. What other private business that lowers the price for having more access to their product.
But aren’t many of these streaming services monthly. For example, Netflix. You don’t pay one monthly fee. You have to pay that $15 fee (or whatever it is now) each month of the season. So aren’t some of the prices higher than quoted?
The problem with all this is that no single service allows you to watch all of one teams games, let alone all teams games. So the value of each is all over the place. So I need Netflix to watch just a couple games. I need Amazon, YouTube, over the air antenna, I don’t even know what else.
i have most of those streaming services and still watch the free/illegal feeds half the time because I don’t have the energy to figure out which device/app I need to tune to. Just to see the refs screw over whoever the Chiefs are playing. It’s gotten ridiculous. And yes I’m old. But in addition to those damn kids staying off my lawn, the NFL needs to think about the fans just a little and stop spreading their content to every conceivable format, time slot and continent all while making us pay for it twice - once for the service, secondly for all the damn ads that pop up everywhere! Then I’ve paid for it all.. but I still can’t watch replays/highlights without more ads or services. It’s just out of hand.
Yes, you get lots of pop up ads on the illegal streams, but at least those are mostly porn ads. So you get something better to click away.
Im not complaining, I’m just saying the NFL policies are forcing people to find work arounds more than just people’s desire to get something for free. -
I think folks need to get used to Hamlin being on the team longer. I know it’s a popular opinion to dump on him, but he started all season on a team that was a few minutes away from a SuperBowl. He’ll be on the team, at the very least throughout his rookie deal and probably longer depending upon his contract amounts.
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4 hours ago, akcash said:
NFL.com and all the team sites webpages are so slow when navigating. That itself is a huge turn off.
Same. Between all the ads and other crap that constantly want to load and refresh, all the official NFL sites are horrendous. I don’t even go there for basic info like scores and game times… any site is better than NFL.com or BB.com
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When they add an 8th team to the playoffs, half the league makes the playoffs every year. IMO, at that point, they’ve completely watered down the playoffs and are making the regular season less important.
It’s like in baseball, why watch the first half of the season at all. There’s just too many meaningless games. So the NFL really wants another game and another playoff team… but they just making it so there’s less reason to watch in Sept.
Personally, I’d go back to the way it was. I’m old and they’ll never do that. But I would change the current format a little… currently the 1 seed gets ALL the advantage. They get the bye, play the lowest rank and home field. I would switch it so that in the divisional round the 1 seed gets the highest seed, and the 2 seed gets the lowest.
The only real advantage the 2 seed has now is home field in the divisional. They’ve made it so the 1 seed practically gets a championship game invitation after the regular season.
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14 hours ago, DeepPass said:
He's a very good running back, He's a very good receiver. He stated he should be on the field for all 3 downs. Obviously, this goes against "everyone eats" philosophy. He wants somewhere between $8 to $15 mil per season. That's Saquon Barkley or Derrick Henry type money.
Does he hold out? Does he sign a lower contract to stay with the Bills? Will he be traded with a draft pick allowing the Bills to move up substantially in the 2025 draft?
The Bills have a long history of very good running backs (Simpson & Thomas were GREAT RB's) even in the dark ages with Terry Miller, Greg Bell, Joe Cribbs and CJ Spiller.all playing a significant role for the Bills in rushing and receiving. Do we really need to have one of the highest paid backs in the League?
Comments Please! Go Bills!
This is what I don’t get… so many people talk about how easy it is to find good running backs. And yet in this post you talk about players from the 70s, 80s and 90s. Even CJ spiller’s best years were 2012 & ‘13.
So it’s been over a decade and people think Cook is so easily replaced. I would suggest people need to back away from the keyboard, think with a bit of perspective, and let Beane worry about the cap space and player salaries.
Why are Bills’ fans so cheap? Personally I don’t care what they pay the players… just put the best team on the field. And Cook is the best RB we have.
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24 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
Really gets over-looked just how bad the O-line was. Brown and Dawkins were both trash in this game
I’m sorry. But if you listened to all the various post game pressers, it was apparent we were out coached again. The Chiefs had several plays on offense and defense that our guys had never seen before and were not prepared for. Conversely, it looked like the Chiefs knew what we were about to do all too often.
I don’t want to turn this into a bash McD thread. But he still hasn’t figured out that the best teams adjust game plans in the playoffs and Super Bowl. You just can’t keep rolling with the same play calls and expect your guys to just out execute their guys.
Yes, we need some more playmakers on both sides of the ball. A player just can’t drop that final pass! But we also need this coaching staff to realize what it takes to get to the Super Bowl and win it.
Thats what this year’s game showed me… we need better players and we need better game plans.
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Hey Joe, were you going with that gun in your hand?
Hey Joe, I said, where you going with that gun in your hand?
I'm going down to shoot my old lady
You know, I caught her messing around with another man
I'm going down to shoot my old lady
You know, I caught her messing around with another manand that ain’t cool
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They'll be fresh for the late season playoff push!
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17 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:
If they were so loyal they would go to most of the games. Teams are fine if you re sell a few games. It's when you go to only 2-3 and sell the rest to pay for the tickets that's the problem.
To be fair they aren't the Lions aren't the first team to do it and they won't be the last. I can see it happening when the new stadium opens.
So owners are allowed to sell minority shares and do other things to make money off their investment. But the fans that pay outrageous fees for season tickets aren’t allowed to make money off their investment?
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6 hours ago, Metal Man said:
I don't get why people are so against the chains. Unless you initially measure wrong when creating them I don't see how they can be inaccurate.
The problem is spotting the ball. That seems to me to be the area that needs electronic assistance.
Agreed the chains aren’t the problem. If done properly… they’re extremely accurate.
The problem is the ref that puts the ball on the ground. Thats the arbitrary, paid off ref influenced aspect of the game that needs fixed. That and.. unless they did it and never showed it on tv… did they even bring the chains out and do a measurement in the ACFCCG?
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In other words… stay ahead of the curve and pay Cook.
I think we’d be fine with Cooper on the outside. The only real question is will he be fine with what we’d likely pay him, assuming they extend Cook.
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I’m in the minority… but I say pay the man. …assuming you look at the whole roster and can afford it.
But I pay extra to keep a player like Cook over just about any of the average to below average defensive players that need new contracts. Yes, we have 2 very good RBs behind him, but, Cook is the only one that seems to be able to take it to the house once he’s in the open. That makes defenses play us differently. And that is what a playmaker is. Right now this team has.. Josh and Cook. That’s pretty much it when it comes to true playmakers.
Outside of the Oline, I’d say it’s a pretty short list of players we have to keep. And Cook is on it, for me.
my only caveat… I don’t know all the salaries and such that it will take to get better defensive players in here. But don’t risk drafting a RB and hope he produces like Cook next year. Replace the jags on the DLine with draft picks first.
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18 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:
You're not wrong, but adding more talent is never a bad idea. If I were a GM, that would always be my focus. Look at the Eagles' offensive skill position players.
They're loaded AND they draft well.
True… but you can only add so much talent each year and you have to balance the pay to meet the cap.
Sooo…. Given the current state of this team. We just had an offense score more points than anyone else in the league, in 2024. On the other hand, we almost gave up the game in the divisional round after the Ravens came back. And we allowed KC to score more points than they did all year.
So where do you put your resources? Offense or defense. If I’m GM. I spend every draft pick and FA dollar on the defensive side of the ball. After breaking into the Eagles courtroom and stealing their draft grades.
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3 minutes ago, Mike R said:
Not only did the Eagles d line dominate and get pressure on Mahomes they played much tighter defense in coverage. Part of the Bills problem is the loose coverage that gives the qb a chance to make quick easy throws to wide open receivers before the d line even gets close to them. The Bills have a problem on defense.
Agreed. The Bills D line rarely generates pressure in their own, without some level of blitzing. But the real problem is they play to avoid the big play at all cost, therefore they give big cushions to all the WRs.
It’s a sound scheme that forces teams to matriculate the ball down the field. It works against most teams. But the top 4ish or so once you get the the playoffs… are too good and usually tear it up. They need to change this defensive philosophy. And they need to figure out how to draft/trade for defensive playmakers. We currently really have none.
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I’ve watched that video a dozen times… still have no idea which one is Josh’s fiancée.
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On 2/6/2025 at 3:13 PM, eball said:
I dreamt about the game last night…in my dream we faked the Allen sneak on the early 4th quarter 4th down and flipped it out to Cook, who took it to the house.
Eff the Ch(r)efs.
Apply for Bills play caller. Please
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Congratulations to Josh! It’s about time. Ans like everything… he displayed class!!
I can’t help but think that he’s doing what he’s had to do his whole career… Slowly one by one prove the doubters wrong. Only now.. he’s proving that the Buffalo Bills deserve the recognition and accolades…. Not just him. And when he’s done the NFL and media pundits will have no choice but to acknowledge how great it is to see him and Buffalo winning the SuperBowl.
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It still sucks. I still see people that spot my Bills hat/shirt and tell me how we got screwed. They ask me why the refs always screw yall over. I replay key moments in the game… and yes the refs ***** us… but our offensive and defensive game plan sucked. We looked “small” and time and time again the Chiefs looked like they knew exactly what we were doing. And then when against all odds… We had a chance… Kincaid drops the ball and the defense allows a first down to seal the game, giving up one final 3rd and long.
If they don’t make
major defensive upgrades/changes… I see zero reason to think next year won’t end like the last 5 have.
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22 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
And I'm doing my part, I hope everyone else is doing theirs. I've gotten at least 2 dozen people I know to swear off watching the shitshow that is this game.
Same. F@#k 'em all.
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2 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
lol. Good one. So I guess you’re the guy that’s ok with them not making the superbowl when the opportunity was in front of them. It’s awesome if that’s the case. I, for one, would like to see them actually do it. Just like…let’s use your personal dig on me. Real classy btw. If my kid is not achieving his goals I’m not going to say it’s because of everything under the sun except him.Fair points. For the record,
I wasn’t trying to make a dig at you.. just thought it was funny to say Allen could do better. I think we all want the Bills not only in.. but to win the Super Bowl. We’re just all dealing with the pain of last weeks game in our own ways.
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11 minutes ago, colin said:
I'd give up cook and picks for Maxx if we also added a monster outside wr. Even then, I'd rather trade two picks for Maxx.
I'd also look at a few other pass rushers for trade if available, and I'd throw some picks at DL as well. The Rams got serious pass rushers in the past couple drafts, they were monsters in the playoffs.
We need top end talent, and then fill the holes w cheap young guys. That's exactly what the Rams and KC have done.
You can’t say we need top end talent in the same post that you advocate for trading Cook. He is top end talent. You get better by keeping your top end talent and adding more…
not by switching one out for the other.
Second point, you shouldn’t use the Rams as your measuring stick for trades, because they were monsters in the playoffs. They got beat in the divisional round. We made it to the Championship game. We need to do better than the Rams.
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16 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Great points. As you advance deeper into the playoffs the chances of getting the types of QB's & offenses that the McD D shines against get slimmer and slimmer.It's so damn obvious it begs the question as to why we even argue about it.
There really is nothing to discuss or ague at this point. Too many consecutive years… with pretty much the exact same result. Either they make significant changes this off season, or they should just come out and say.. our 2025 plan is to hope Reid has a heart attack and Mahomes has a season ending injury. Surely they see how much of a joke their defense has become?
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I want to catch one last game at Rich Stadium late in the year...
in The Stadium Wall
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Whether this will be the last season, last game, last whatever… I don’t care so much. All I know is next October I will see my first (and almost certainly last unless they do keep playing there in 2026) Bills game in Rich Stadium. I have the tickets and coordinated with the fam.. it’s set! And I’m excited to finally walk into the holy land on game day.