BillsFan130

I mean, now we can go down a rabbit hole if you’re gonna bring that up lol. It was fields rookie year so it should go without saying he was the placeholder for him. Also Not sure how that has any relevance to the convo, as I think inarguably they are both respected backups in the league

I believe if they had Dalton like Justin fields, they would win between 7-9 games. I listed the 8 games I thought they would win. if you disagree , all good and we can respectfully disagree.

The point is , you're using Josh Johnson as an example to say ravens would have be brutal without Lamar. Ok fine, no disagreement there But the original argument was Lamar would have fewer wins compared to Josh if a backup QB came in. And im trying to equate that by saying hypothetically speaking, let's say the backup QB is equal for both teams and that backup is component. (Unlike Johnson) Cause if im the backup to Lamar compared to Andy Dalton being the backup to Josh, then it's not a fair argument and of course Lamar would be "more valuable" lol

Exactly the point ^. Thank you

Andy Dalton, Justin Fields, Brissett, Browning etc. Houston's only points against Baltimore came off a safety and Denver got 10 points against Baltimore lol.. It would literally be "no chance" they lose those games against those teams with a backup. Washington one you can debate, Houston and Denver you don't have much of an argument there

Ya I don't think 9. But I think ravens would still win 8 with a component backup. ( Not Josh Johnson though who's a horrible backup lol) Raiders, Browns twice, Giants, Denver, Washington, Houston, Cowboys - Those are the games I think ravens would win with an average to above average backup

I don't think the point he was trying to make had any reference to Josh Johnson. Its more as: "If the backup QB was of equal calibre for both teams , ravens would win 9 and Bills would win 6". Which I would agree with personally , give or take a game Cause of course if Josh's backup is let's say, Andy dalton and Lamar's backup is Nate peterman, then obviously bills would win more games with Dalton

I may be in the minority, but I want nothing to do with Miami either. (That is if Tua plays) It is hard to beat a team 3 times in the same season, and last time the dolphins played the Bills, they really should have won as they outplayed them in pretty much every stat.

Ya that's fair, My point was separate from predicting James cooks future. Just observing what I have noticed from the bills utilizing Ty Johnson more over cook compared to last year in the passing game

I agree. The best example I can give you to illustrate your point: Eagles game last year: Cook on the 1st or 2nd drive is sent on a wheel route and drops an easy touchdown Lions game this year? They had Ty Johnson in running a very similar route on that 1st drive, and completed a 40 yard pass. Their messaging is pretty clear that they prefer having Ty Johnson in on passing downs. (Pass pro and running routes)

Fair enough, that's definitely debatable. For myself , I wouldn't want the Bills to pay him 10-12 mil. But Cook is definitely a valuable part to their offence so there's that side of it

But they already have their QBs and were established teams. Giants were 6-11 with Barkley a year ago , a star RB isn't gonna move the needle on a crap team

Contract negotiations must not be going so well with Josh..

Haha. Giants still made the right decision not paying Saquon IMO, even though he is a great player If he is on the team, what do they have 5 or 6 wins instead of 3? They have no QB and their O line is a mess- They need to get those positions right first before they pay 15 million to a RB

Whoops sorry, you're correct. My mistake and I'll edit that

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43210458/nfl-toughest-places-play-arrowhead-chiefs-bills-highmark Interesting- Player vote for the toughest places to play^ Bills ranked 5th toughest overall

If bills can get him at 8, I would be ok with that. I think he's gonna be around 12 though. Could be wrong.

Ya, but You Can't unfortunately pay everyone . Unless you want to be in cap hell

Ya eventually you're gonna have to beat a good team to win the Super Bowl. But you also want the easiest path possible. Cinci makes it harder for the Bills i think pretty objectively, so it's better to avoid them .

Ya fair- I wouldn't be totally against it if The price is right . But unless its someone like Saquon, I'm usually not a believer in paying RBs big dollars

Cook is good, but I still wouldn't pay a RB 10-12 million Especially Cause of the contract extensions coming up. (Groot, benford, Shakir, Bernard)

I never said worried, but i guarantee they had a preference to who they played. Not necessarily though- It's a week to week and matchup league. In 2022 bengals struggled beating Tyler Huntley and then went on to crush the Bills. KC and NE didn't always have to "beat the best", which is what you originally said to be a champ. Most of the time it was a 1st round bye, then someone like Jacksonville, Cleveland or Tim Tebow one year lol. Point being is it's not ideal to have the toughest possible road to the Super Bowl . You want the most favourable schedule, to put the odds more in your favour . And in the bills case, it would be avoiding Cinci for round 1

How many championships has New England/KC won, by getting byes and then playing an average team in the 2nd round? The end game is the Super Bowl. Playing Cincinnati makes that harder to achieve

I don't think so either. But my point is I'm not sure why some people would wish to face Cinci

Yep- For me it's pretty simple: 1. Burrow is playing the best football of his career 2. Burrow in 2 games and a quarter against the bills has absolutely shredded the bills defence 3. The bills defence is much worse now than in years past when we played Cinci So why people want to face Cincinnati is beyond me lol