[9/18/25 GAMEDAY Bills vs Dolphins Gameday Thread TNF]

Got a feeling this one will be controlled by the bills, but also closer than we may think.

 

Miami is coming off a ton of plays defensively in the hot sun, now on a short week.

I think Joe Brady is gonna try to wear them down in the run game.

 

Predicting First 2-3 quarters will be close, but bills pull away a bit in the 4th. We shall see

[NFL Week 3 Announcers 2025]

3 hours ago, ryguy101 said:

UPDATE: Alex Faust is replacing Tim Brando in the Panthers-Falcons game

Well that just ruined my night, damn it!

[Game week thread - Dolphins at Bills TNF]

5 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

seriously, some of these guys act like they started watching the Bills in 2019. 
I think Buffalo will win, but Miami is capable of putting up points. I have watched this Bills team under McD lay an egg every year. I want to believe this year is different, and I will is each week they show up prepared with a good game plan and execute it. 

I agree that nothing is given and I am not taking Miami lightly.

 

But I am not so sure it is just a Mcdermott thing with a bad loss every year as every great team has bad losses.

 

Ravens lost to the raiders at home last year, eagles lost to the falcons at home, chiefs have lost to the raiders at home, lost against the colts etc

 

So agreed that nothing is for granted. But every team usually has at least 1 bad loss every year

[Game week thread - Dolphins at Bills TNF]

44 minutes ago, balln said:

How does waddle hurt his shoulder overnight ? 

Did he practice yesterday? If so could be an ed oliver instance where it flared up after mondays practice

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And yet the results Brady has had with less talent are comparable. 

 

I was a Daboll fan too, less so Dorsey. But if Daboll had this roster his offense wouldn't work. We don't have the pieces.

Less talent in the skilled position now, but the offensive line and TEs now are 10x better than 2020-2021.

 

But ya I agree with the last point. To be clear I'm not hating on Joe Brady as I think he's good. I Just wish he would open it up a bit more at times

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

My pushback is 1, 2 & 4 sound like the Dorsey offense. And that wasn't aggressive. It was just dumb.

I think by far the biggest issue with Dorsey's offence was it was way too complicated and doesn't have much to do with putting it Josh's hands.

 

I would say 1, 2 and 4 are more like Brian Dabolls , which I still think is peak Bills offence in the McDermott era. (2020 regular season and 2021 playoffs they were literally unstoppable)

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

55 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Can you clarify what you mean by aggressive? Do you mean throwing lots? Or do you mean throwing down the field? Or do you mean attack a defence's weak spots?

 

Cos I think the Bills are balanced run to pass in order to put the ball in the hands of their most explosive skill player, I think they have called deep shots and they are not there because guys can't get open deep and I think they do a pretty good job going after weaknesses. I don't see any of that as not being aggressive. 

 

Have had a couple of conservative play calls - sure. The 3rd down after the alert we just talked about they rushed to the line and tried a run which was odd, and the 3rd down on the first drive of the second half the other day when they ran and kicked a FG was unnecessarily conservative to my eye. But I think they are individual play calls rather than something that signifies an overall conservative offense.

Yep for sure- So when I mean aggressive it's a combination of a few things:

 

1. Pass to run ratio. (Of course more passing would = more aggressive)

 

2. More downfield shots- I am not saying there weren't any designed downfield shots, but they definitely played the first half in an 8 yard box for the most part. It's also hard to tell if the receivers are running deep to space the field , or if they are actually the designed first read.

 

3. More throws/play action on 2nd and short

 

4. To simplify probably the most, just putting the game in Josh's hands and let Josh be Josh . (Like the 4th quarter)

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

13 minutes ago, transient said:

...not the 4th Q of the Ravens game when Allen put up 251 yds?

Read my quote again. "The last time the Bills opened up an offensive game script". meaning going into the game aggressive without game script dictating the play calls.

 

Game script and being down 15, of course made the bills throw it all over the yard against the ravens 

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I disagree. I don't think it was a conservative plan. I think it felt conservative because when they more aggressive plays were called Josh checked down. He was right to check down. Nobody was open deep.

 

On the audible on 2nd and the reason I think it was a pass is because he alerts and then he points behind his back to Cook and "Omahas." Could that all be part of one call? Sure. But I'd need evidence that he has double signalled that way on other alerts. I think he alerted from a pass to a run and then flipped the run. Don't know for certain but that is my rationale. 

 

It's a fair rationale. I'm not saying you're wrong as you very well could be right. I think personally he just changed direction on the run.

I guess unfortunately we probably will never know the actual answer 

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He called downfield shots in that first half against the Ravens. They weren't there. Josh came off two and checked down and I still think he checked out of a pass on the 2nd and 1. That's part of the point.... I think what is driving the conservative narrative is the fact that the lack of separation means we don't actually go deep even when there are deeper shots called.

I think pretty objectively, it was a very conservative game plan as the bills were definitely trying to establish clock control.

I am not saying all of it is Joe Brady's fault- Like on the 3rd and 6 screen to Kincaid, it looked like Josh definitely called an audible into that.

 

The 2nd and 1 I've seen a few times myself . I'm pretty convinced that Josh  checked to running to the left side, instead of running to the right. (I def could be wrong)

 

Also, I don't really give Joe the benefit of the doubt on that one^, as he's notorious for running on 2nd and shorts
 

 

[Lost in the noise - Chiefs 0-2 for the first time in the Mahomes era]

4 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

Their next 4 games are Giants, Ravens, Jags and Lions.  They could legitimately be 2-4.

Maybe but I wouldn't bet on it. They will beat the jags and giants.

 

No way I see them dropping both home games to lions and Ravens. They'll win at least one of those IMO

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

I won't argue how good is Brady as OC since I don't feel competent enough.

 

But I can guarantee you that 100% of fanbases feel that their OCs are extremely frustrating at times, including 49ers, Rams and Chiefs fans, and that you would feel the same with any coordinator.

Oh for sure. Ya when I say I get frustrated with him, I don't mean nitpicking his play calls during the game. As to your point, every fan base will get frustrated with play calls.

What I mean is just the overall philosophy. I think his offensive game plans are too conservative at times.
 

Overall I think Joe Brady is good. But I am a bit concerned that his "tight to the chest" play calling will hurt them in a big game. (Kind of like the ravens game in the 1st half in week 1)

[Monday Night Games 9/15 Thread]

Two massive special teams errors in the 4th.

 

Special teams coach is about to be fired tomorrow 

[Monday Night Games 9/15 Thread]

Stroud sucksss

[Monday Night Games 9/15 Thread]

3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

So far it looks like the Colts are the surprise team and the best team in the AFC South, but I'm old enough to remember when the Saints were the talk of the league for the first two weeks last year. 

Ya I'm not sold on the colts yet. I'm just not sold on Houston at all.

 

I think Jax or Indi will win the division 

[Monday Night Games 9/15 Thread]

Houston's O line is horrible.

 

They are in a bad division, I still don't think they make the playoffs this year

[Any thoughts on Dorian Williams about to be starting again?]

2 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Most teams are losing players too. The Bucs, for instance, are down both starting OTs as I type this and just lost an edge rusher. The Seahawks played this week without both S Nick Emmanwori and CB Devin Witherspoon. Their fans have pages of discsusion about these injuries, but I bet most here didn't know anything about them. We just don't notice other teams' injuries unless they are QBs or high-profile stars so it feels like we are the only team with guys out.

Yep. Bills injuries really aren't that bad relative to the rest of the league.

 

Offence they are full healthy. This week they will probably be out two starters on defence. (I don't think Max would be starting over Tre yet so not considering him a starter)

 

So two starters down really isn't that bad and is probably on par for the NFL . Miami has two starters down on their O line alone 

[Any thoughts on Dorian Williams about to be starting again?]

Just posted in the game day thread. I don't think this Miami matchup is good for Dorian.

 

Miami likes to use a lot of misdirection which gives Dorian a lot of problems

 

 

[Game week thread - Dolphins at Bills TNF]

Don't like Milano being out for this game as Dorian Williams really struggles with misdirection/eye candy. (Which Miami does a lot)

 

But Bills are just a far superior team so shouldn't make too much of a difference

[Lost in the noise - Chiefs 0-2 for the first time in the Mahomes era]

7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Miami had a scheduling fluke that year I feel like…I wish I was a betting person I probably woulda made a fortune predicting that one lol they had a really easy long stretch in the middle of the season then the schedule really heated up 

Hahah ya fair enough.

 

They also had that one piss job game against the titans late in the season that really screwed them. Not sure if you remember that Monday night game when they were up two scores with like 3 to go and lost 

[Lost in the noise - Chiefs 0-2 for the first time in the Mahomes era]

6 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

That’s a weird thing to say ‘the only thing’ about haha kc lookin on the outside of the 1 seed and probably having to battle a little harder to win the division has massive playoff implications.  Idk why people continue to not see it that way 
 

 It’s not just dumb luck they’re always freakishly healthy come playoff time the last few years and their opponents are pretty banged up.  Even the year they were the 3 seed they got to rest guys down the stretch because there was just no competition for the division 

 

this whole ‘the regular season doesn’t matter’ thing has gotten out of control imo

 

 

I say that's "the only thing", because I still see them winning the division. The AFC west and even the AFC is still theirs until proven otherwise .

 

Meh- They had to battle in 2023. They Got the 3rd seed and won in Buffalo and Baltimore and then won the Super Bowl.

 

 

[Lost in the noise - Chiefs 0-2 for the first time in the Mahomes era]

1 minute ago, chongli said:

 

If the Chargers win tonight, they will effectively have a three-game lead over KC.

Yep that's true, but would you bet money on the chargers to win the division over KC?

 

I definitely wouldn't As good teams always rise in December.

 

I remember in 2023 the bills were down like 4 games in the division with 6 to go and they still caught Miami and won the division lol.

[Lost in the noise - Chiefs 0-2 for the first time in the Mahomes era]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

hot takes about KC in September probably won't age well. People said the same things about NE, and yet in January they were always there. None of these games matter.

This^.
 

The only thing that's good is it probably takes them out of the 1 seed as they'll probably have to go 13-2 in their remaining games to even have a chance.

 

But ya I still see them winning their division with 11-12 wins

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

29 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

They scored 20 on their first 4 drives though.  and 30 across 7.  They had the turnover but other than that field position wasn't amazing.  Just long drives.  It probably would've been more of a beat down if knox pulls in a couple of those.  

Ya but jets gifted them how many points with dumb penalties on 3rd downs?

 

1st drive was a roughing the passer on a 3rd and 19. 
 

That is a 4-7 point penalty alone, depending if Prater makes the long kick

[Joe Brady through 2 games]

9 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I think winning the turnover battle and controlling TOP results in more wins vs. passing more.  

 

The 403 yards would have been a top 3 average yardage total in the NFL last year.  30 PPG would also be a top 3 average. 

 

The defense played lights out, negative plays, snagged a turnover.  Love to see it.  But the offense grinded this one to a halt and in the 2nd half the D really didn't have to do much.  

Ya for sure I'm not faulting how they played it in the 2nd half as I totally get being conservative with the score.

 

My biggest issue was the offence in the first quarter or so. Thought they were too conservative once again and just looked off. 
 

The 403 yards and 30 points are a bit skewed mind you. When your defence is giving you 3 and outs all day long and a turnover on the 20 yard line, it's of course going to give the offence a ton of more chances to rack up yards and points.