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44 minutes ago, mannc said:
I think it's possible. JA and Fields have somewhat similar playing styles. Trubisky has already proven that he's a barely adequate backup, so the bar is pretty low. I don't think Fields on his rookie deal is a very expensive backup, although honestly, I'm not sure what hit he's going to have on Pittsburgh's cap...
fair points, but do you think it would be worth the investment to trade assets for most likely a one year rental who is pretty expensive for a backup QB? (In a tight capped team)
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47 minutes ago, mannc said:
I haven’t heard, but it would not shock me if the Bills were interested.
Why do you think the bills would be interested out of curiosity?
He would be a fairly expensive backup, and his 5th year option would kick in the following year.
So would basically be a 1 year rental as an expensive back up
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
Samuel as of right now is a better player than Shakir. This post screams "I only watch the Bills." If Shakir hit the market right now he wouldn't be getting $8M AAV with $15M guaranteed. He isn't the caliber of player that stops you from trying to improve the position when a good opportunity presents itself. I appreciate Shakir's toughness and natural instincts after the catch but he was not an answer for our man coverage woes last year. Samuel is genuinely very good against man. And unlike Shakir he can actually play outside. I suspect for example all of the perimeter screens that went to Diggs last year with minimal success will now go to Samuel. So he raises our floor in a number of ways.
Some people are getting way too caught up in worrying about his best spot in the formation. The #1 and only priority this offseason was adding legit starting caliber talent to the WR room. It's laughable that now the complaint is "the Bills are going to have TOO MANY receivers." There will be injuries, rotation, varying game plans focusing on different skillsets to beat different matchups. This is a regime that has regularly spent a lot of money on players 2-3 deep at every single spot on the DL. But for some fans doing the same at WR is an unspeakable sin. I can guarantee you right now the effect of Curtis Samuel on the roster will be much more than the combined effect of Jordan Phillips and Tim Settle on the roster. Beane's only mistake is that he waited this long to make the philosophical change.
If Beane next does the easy and obvious move and selects the best WR remaining with his 1st pick we will finally have the long awaited influx of talent that this group has desperately needed. If that leads to a player like Shakir getting less attention, all that means is he will also face more favorable matchups which can only a good thing.
You're definitely right that Samuel would get paid more than Shakir as of now.
And I am definitely happy they added Samuel to the room as he's a good player.
But hmm if someone told me I can only have one receiver for 2024, Samuel or Shakir..
I think I would have to say Shakir as I love the trajectory the kid is on.
Glad we don't have to pick though as it's awesome to have both of them
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1 hour ago, 5ths the charm said:
Lol you mean over paid-under delivered?
While he was disappointing, I think our expectations were in the wrong place with Sherfield.
Last year he was playing "up to 1.7" mil or something like that.
He was basically signed to be a special teams player/run blocker/WR 5 , so if we thought he was gonna be a difference maker on offence, I think we were being naive
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I almost wish the bills just re structured the full amount for Josh and just would have bit the bullet with Knox's contract this year so they can get out of this deal after this season.
anyone know the post June cap savings if bills cut Knox next year?
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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:
lol why they ever give him that deal in the first place is completely beyond me
Agreed. He had one descent year when he caught a bunch of TDs in 2021 but that's it.
How that warrants a 14 mil per year is beyond me
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23 minutes ago, jahnyc said:
Would Diggs be worth much more than Keenan Allen? Chargers received a fourth round pick from the Bears. Don't see us getting a first round pick if Diggs was traded.
Probably not- Allen i believe a year older, but diggs makes more money.
Allen more injury prone mind you.
I would guess a very similar compensation
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Problem for the Vikings is I don't think they get into the top 3.
And if they miss out on the top 3 QBs, is it really worth trading a bunch of picks to get someone like McCarthy?
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1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Catching a football is catching a football. Christ this board sometimes...
I'm not a Gabe fan but he's got a point.
Gabe had a lot of 50/50 contested deep balls where Samuel got more screens/short passes so of course Samuel's catch percentage will be better.
Now in saying that, I still prefer Samuel as I like his skill set more than gabes
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Now draft one in the 1st or 2nd round (hopefully 1st) and should be set for receiver
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38 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:
Credit Brady for seeing the potential Dorsey missed
Yep! Can even say the same about James Cook
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1 minute ago, BigAl2526 said:
I'd be surprised if the Bills signed him. It doesn't seem like a fit given their current cap situation.
Agreed. And they are already paying Oliver and jones pretty well
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33 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
At the moment I am not seeing how we are better. Okay FA is only officially hours old and the draft is still to come, but I don't see a fast path to improvement.
Where there is hope is in their best young players - Cook, Benford, Bernard, Kincaid, Torrence - taking another step. But they need that plus one or two good players breaking out... maybe Rousseau? Maybe Brown?
Agreed. I'm sure every team can say that as well. -Where they are projecting their younger guys to take a step forward.
I def don't see the bills being better, but a long way to go until week 1 I guess
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33 minutes ago, stinky finger said:
Useless WR? Is that a thing?
Haha. Special teams player, WR5 is most likely what he's gonna be
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Probably the Trent sherfield role i would imagine.
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6 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:
Not really digging all of the trash talk by fans in here. Gabe was a good dude, good teammate, pretty good receiver and great blocker who provided us with a lot of fond memories on a cheap rookie 4th round contract. Good luck to the young man.
I like Gabe in terms of him seeming like a good guy, good work ethic etc and I'm happy he got paid.
But I am also happy he signed elsewhere as I don't think he's dynamic enough to be a WR2 on a good offence
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They could have cleared 23 if I'm not mistaken?
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1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said:
I think weighting has to factor in rather than just total number of "elite" players.
For instance, having 1 elite player like Allen is worth a lot more than 1 elite linebacker.
But we do not have many "elite" players...we have done well with Allen being elite and making up for a lack of elite players elsewhere.
For instance, I think if Allen were on SF they would have several rings in the last few years based on their elite talent at multiple positions coupled with the overwhelming weight of having an elite QB.
Fair points
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3 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:
Don't know - we haven't gotten through free agency or the draft yet. Ask in August after final cuts.
Fair, but with the bills cap situation, I would say it's extremely unlikely the bills are able to add an elite impact player in 2024
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Good for singletary.
Great dude who works hard
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12 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:
He had a better year because Chase didn’t have his elite QB throwing to him for half the season but that's beside the point. Aiyuk was in the 49ers dog house just 2 years ago and wasn't getting playing time and was even the subject of trade rumors. He has come on but I wouldn't put him as elite right now
You can't have it both ways though...
Burrow is obviously 10x better than Purdy/jimmy g, the QBs Aiyuk has had.
If your argument is "chase needs his elite QB to get him his elite stats".
What does that say about Aiyuk then, who put up big numbers this year with an average QB at best?
You see my point?
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Just now, Buffalo03 said:
So, a backup QB throwing to 2 of those guys for half the season is a bad argument? That is going to affect their season a little bit. I hate to break it to you. It's not "trust me, bro". It's for real lol. Let me ask you, you're running a franchise. You get offered Chase or Aiyuk in a trade and you can only have one, which one you picking? You get offered Ayuik or Justing Jefferson. Which one are you picking. And I'll say the same with any of the other WRs. I will say, I would take Purdy throwing to Aiyuk before Browning over Chase but I am not taking them over Burrow to Chase. I am also taking an elite QB throwing to Adams over Purdy to Aiyuk. I would take Jefferson with pretty much anyone (when healthy) because that matters. Like bro, come on. I know you wanna be right but you are simply not
Chase for sure. Once again you're basing 2023 vs career....
In 2023 Aiyuk had a better year than chase. You really cannot argue otherwise
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
I don't think Aiyuk is elite either. It isn't about numbers for me so much as it is about film. He is just a tick below an elite level talent. He doesn't dominate corners in that same way.
On the other two - Thuney 100% is elite. And so is McDuffie (but with the caveat that he is an elite slot corner. He is not a proven elite boundary corner).
To be honest I don't think he is elite in like a top 5 guy either, but he definitely deserved getting to the all pro team last year. Like he was def better than Adams and chase last year who are considered "elite" receivers.
Agreed on thuney and Mcduffie
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Just now, Buffalo03 said:
So, Jefferson missed a lot of last season. That puts Aiyuk right on par. Got it. Chase also had Jake Browning throwing to him for half the season. DeVante Adams had Aiden O'Connell throwing to him for a lot of the season along with other retreads. The fact that Aiyui had more yards means nothing. He is not on their level. It's not name recognition, they are better players. Those guys are the best of the best in this league. Aiyuk is not there yet. Again, very good player, not an elite player
Ok so now we are going to put other circumstances into it because you have no other thing to back up what you're saying?
It's not 2022. Or 2021. Aiyuk was an absolute stud last year and was better than Jefferson (due to injury), chase and adams.
I'm not gonna reply back unless you have any objective thing to state , opposed to your argument,"trust me bro".
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Justin Fields traded to Steelers
in The Stadium Wall
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3.2 for a team that needs a good backup, I agree it's affordable.
But anything over 2.5 is a bit expensive for the bills IMO, especially considering they are tight against cap and Josh is the most durable QB in the league
Rumours are they could have gotten more from other teams, but they did right to fields by sending him to a place he can compete for a starting job.
I would guess it would have cost the bills a 4th to get him