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And now the obvious bomb.
You know I am going to say YES... Of course they DESERVE it. Who doesn't DESERVE it?
More power to 'em... Actually does my heart good to know that somebody might be doing less than I do at work and making more money at it.
I would rather have the spot welder drive up the cost of the vehicle. That cost I would gladly pay... The common man getting ahead, not a step behind.
Why should we begrudge this? Why the resentment for paying this price?
Monotonous work handsdown is the hardest work. We just don't value it much in society because we all need it.
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Kyle Orton is on a 6 game run in Chicago... Yes they did play against some bad teams and the NFC "Norris" is hideous.
They did come a long way by beating 7-2 Carolina... But, that might be a smokescreen too. Cincy did pound the Bears earlier in the season and may be a good indicator AFC hegemony.
The NFC is up for the taking... And it could be very well the strong D of the Bears that pushes Orton to the forefront.
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If that was US dollars, what would that be in Canadian? About 96k?
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I am telling you, somebody better e-mail safety and throw in some Bruschi protection regulation for good measure.
Not that Darin would abide by it... But, us mere mortals need all the help we can get!
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I feel bad for that crowd in that the entire system was shaken up mid-stream for them. Hell, I've been smacked by it, thus the reason I live down South where the economy is better. My father is reaching retirement age without much of a retirement fund because he had the pension plan going for him before his shop closed the doors. That type of business just can't compete with the rest of the world, unfortunately.
I won't be happy until I *have* a golden parachunte!
-Jeff
My feelings here too. It (shaken up midstream) is happening in the government also... Myself, I am still young, college educated (sure go ahead and snicker, laugh at my expense
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Thanks... Really? When you say "change 4" what do you mean? I have checked all safety updates since this edition.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I am staring at -1-1 dated, 3 November 2003 which supercedes:
..385-1-1, 3 September 1996
DODI 6055.1
AR 40-5
AR 385-10
AR 385-11
While many of the requirements of EM 385 closely parallel OSHA's requirements, there are some notable differences, including requirements for a written site-specific accident prevention plan and the development of activity hazard analyses.
If you are a construction contractor and not familiar with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Safety and Health Requirements Manual EM 385-1-1, you could find yourself in a heap of trouble on Department of Defense (DoD) construction projects, especially if a contracting officer or project manager deems your noncomformance with specific provisions of EM 385 to be contract violations and stops your work until the deficiencies can be corrected.
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See, there is your problem. Reading the first paragraph makes it all clear.
OTTAWA -- A federal department is under fire for a "racist" new hiring policy that rejects candidates based on sex and skin colour.
You can discriminate against skin color if you spell color with a "u!"
Then onto the fifth paragraph.
"It's racist and discriminatory," he said. "It's not possible to discriminate in favour of someone on the basis of race without unfairly discriminating against someone because of their race."
Notice the "u" in favor... Little known technicality!
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Actually, I wasn't planning on it... I will be working (if you want to call it that)afternoons. The wife and kids were planning on stopping by for a bit on their way to see the windows downtown (T-Day night is the best time to do it... No stores are open and no crowds or hassles).
Yet, you did get me thinking (if you want to believe I think
) about bringing in my fryer and doing soemthing up easy... Maybe boneless or something... Throw in some chicken fingers for the finicky 7 year old!Don't worry, there is a lot of asphalt... I will be wearing welder's glasses and gloves, of course I will have my safety shoes on and be armed with safety manual EM 385-1-1!
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Good points!
"That past" becomes the here and now all too fast. What I mean is that we all get old. It isn't that somebody should take care of us from womb to tomb. You should be offered some security for your years you worked.
I am not asking for a "Golden Parachute" that the execs get. Some type of pension plan should be in order though.
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God, I hope so!
Not sure if that was a snapback? I know if I would have said something like "Unions Bad!", "Labor Bad!", that would have qualified. Not quite sure if the "Darin Smiley" can have a cheery upbeat undertone?
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My father is a machinist by trade. He did his apprenticeship prior to his 100% U.S. government funded vacation to Vietnam for a couple years back in the last 60's. I grew up on a skilled tradesman's hourly wage.
My answer is probably a bit biased, but yes, I believe think wages ought to be on par as long as there is equal demand for the service provided. It's all about the demand for the labor, though.
One of my sister's friends owns a machine shop. It was a family business started after the war... It is still up running today. True, business is not the same today as it has been in the past but, demand for quality is still there. Her friend's constant lament is that it is hard finding quality, skilled people that know what they are doing.
Machining today, I take is a lot more computer driven than years ago. This opens up whole new skills that need to be trained on top of things learned in the past.
I agree with you and KD. It is all about demand. That is why they should move them to cheaper areas if they can.
Why haven't they done it already?
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It doesn't matter what he 'needs' to support his family (totally subjective anyway), it matters what someone is willing to pay him for that work and what he is will to accept. If the two parties can't reach an agreement, than both should be free to pursue other options.
I think you need to go to remedial smiley school. Your abuse of the Darin smiley is reaching the critical stage.
Even more nauseating... Is my constant use of ellipsis.
Steer me to the "Snapback Rules"... A.K.A "Darin Smiley."
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Couldn't resist Stuck. All in good fun.
You forgot to mention...
And after dinner, at 5:30, everybody at Shady Acres Rest Home gets together to play a spirited game of euchre before heading off to bed at 8:00!
And who cares... I don't need eyebrows anyway!
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I don't really believe it's a good thing, but that's a complicated question. The answer is probably bound to how quickly we hit that equilibrium. I'd love it all to stay here and continue to employ thousands of factory workers. Irritation stems from the fact that demanding wages in that range sn't going to help keep that stuff around, yet the goal of the union is to protect the worker.
-Jeff
I here you Jeff... IMO, he is not actually "demanding" wages... Just being a "wise guy" about capitalism... And it doesn't come off well.
You said:
"I'd love it all to stay here and continue to employ thousands of factory workers."
It just is not going to happen. Nothing will until there is a free "legal" flow of labor into this country.
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What do some think a skilled machinist/tradesman needs to make to adequately support her/his family? Should skilled labor be afforded wages that are on par with their more formaly educated countrymen?
If all it takes is a person with or witout a GED to make some of these pieces... Then by all means GM should farm these jobs out overseas and stop letting the union "hold them hostage."
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He's not saying they should offer the engineers behind the product a competitive salary for their highly trained services. He's saying they should be demanding $50 - $60 base pay for factory assemblers at a plant in Sandusky, Ohio. That's $124,000 a year straight time. For assembling bearings. Screw my fancy college education, I'm going to go assemble bearings.
As I suspected, it all boils down to what you say here.
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Exactly. The bearing is the important component, not the hourly assembly line crew putting them together. Given schematics and machinery any line could put those components together.
...and these types of shops will continue to move into the not-so-unionized South and rust belt residents will continue to blame the evil corporations for taking all of "their" jobs and tax rates will continue to go up as the tax base erodes and people will demand higher wages to combat the increasing cost of living and these types of shops will continue to move into the....
-Jeff
Then away from the not-so-unionized South and across the borders.
And that is a good thing?... In time an equillibrium will be achieved. Just when?
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And? How many thousands of subcomponents of various machinary are critical to everyday life and saftey? Does this mean that we should be paying some guy on an assembly line $60/hr to make every one them? Maybe you can expound on what that'll do to Michelin mommy's retirement fund.
As usual, you seem to be forgetting to have a point.
Who cares about their retirement fund... That isn't important if they die on their way to work. Should it matter?
Like I said before... Good, move them overseas.
I do wonder how much the industry is skill/tech driven... There must be something to it? But, then again I will just accept the "Unions Bad", "Labor Bad" that is being tossed out.
Anybody "in the know" care to elaborate. Obviously, I can't.
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I've raised my dog since he was a puppy. He's part of my family.....You hurt him, you get hurt worse. If you're asking me whether or not I'd do the same thing if there was some stray dog walking around? No, that's not quite the same thing. If you see someone getting beat up in the park, you may do something like call the police or whatever else you can to help. But if the person getting beat up is my brother? That's totally different. My dog is my family. Period. You F with my family, I pay it back exponentially.
I think we got sidetracked from the crux of the story here.
I understand that and agree with you... Really apples and oranges with regards to this story.
It is an stupid sentence.
Night in the park? Come on... Doesn't this illustrate how "soft" we have become as a society. I would love if the judge ordered me to that sentence... All would be in for one "outdoorsy" treat.
I guess I would become feral... Oh wait, I already am!
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Thought of that before I used the term... I used it because Michelin has always been associated with safety (inventing the radial design, etc...).
Adding to that... There was a great History channel docu on tire making... I was amazed how high-tech it is... We do pay for it though... Totally not the "dirty industry" of the past.
My point was, how important are spindle bearings in your life? I'll bank that it is pretty high up there on the list... Even if most don't think so.
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I Have a Dream
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Why is it pinned and then not allow him to post to it?
Is that thread TBD's version of "stocks."
You might not agree with someone, find their viewpoints offensive... Why the vindicative side?
IMO, pinned threads like that do more harm telling people about this site than it does the person who posted it.
TSW might not be the right place to air these thoughts in regards to "policy"... Yet, these questions I ask are within the scope of this thread.
It is good that this thread has lasted this long and attempts to get ample "air time."