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I think it was something like $1.25. And kids did not tip barbers, even though they would give you a lollipop.
That was a lot of money, considering that a Saturday matinee was 25 cents. I generally went to the since-razed Colvin Theater on Kenmore Ave. Popcorn was 10 cents, and you could get a 6 ounce cup of pop from a machine in the lobby for a nickel. I never bought candy there, though - they wanted 6 cents vs. 5 cents at the drug store.
Cool!
Movies have gone up on a crazy ride... Barbers now, they are the man! But, they are getting harder to find!
Getting nastolgic about those prices is neat but, if you put into context with the amount things cost today, you will find that things are equally as cheap if not lower if you factor in today what we make... We just have a lot more crap out there trying to tempt our money out of our pockets.
Consider that 6 oz. cup cost 5 cents... What can you get a 2 liter today for? $.89-$1.49... on special to regular. And that is almost 10 times more in volume.
Back then it was some serious coin that you shelled out.
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Ex, I'm a very casual buyer of recorded music. On the occassional times I went into a Media Play, my impression was like that I get from a Wal-Mart. Haphazard shelves, shabby housekeeping, etc. I know, with my infrequent purchashing, that I am not up on competitive pricing. But their stores just gave me a cheesy impression. I think that they did poorly in picking up that few percent of the casual, like me. In a competitive business, that can make a difference. Certainly a small thing, what with several posters pointing out their high prices. But a loss of repeat sales.
BTW, I loved Twin Fair. Good selection, good workers, cheap prices, etc. Two Guys was well off my beaten path.
Exactly! Exactly!
I have fond memories of TF too. My wife said her father would always go there for his cigars (Philly's... who would have thought he was very ahead of his time and the "blunt" rage?...
) when things got crazy with the kids... He would distance himself from their fracus and say: "I am going to Twin Fair to pick up cigars... When I get back, THIS BETTER BE RESOLVED!." 
Now that is parenting! Not really related but, since we are talking about grocery stores and parenting:
I also have fond memories of the A&P(Next to the Two Guys on Walden)... Remember the 8 O'Clock Coffee grinders at the registers?... I still remember getting my hand slapped by the checkout lady for touching one! Served me right! Never did it again. Try, doing that nowadays... Good luck... You'll have a raging soccer mom all over your jock!
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Is that really true? Stores like Target and Wal-Mart are going to the "super" model... Selling groceries and what not. For a time that was not in vogue. Remember the whole "Twin Fair"/"Two Guys" concept in the 1970's (groceries and everything else)?... I guess they were ahead of their time/era?
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Ahhh but, you secretly want to contribute.
Like for MOST woman... TO THEM, it is never funny when somebody else does it (farts)... But, it becomes a blast (pun intended) when THEY toot away!
Anyway... Here is a joke that keeps my 7 year old son rolling.
What is the sharpest thing in the world?
A fart, it "cuts" through your pants without even making a hole!
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No - wasting dough on a haircut for a kid back then was considered a stupid waste of money. Still is, IMO.
'Twas the home electric clippers with the plastic attachments for us. The inevitable gouges that bled were treated with a dollop of toothpaste. Sounds funny looking back, but it did stanch the blood.
How much was a haircut? 2 bucks and a 25 cent tip?
Right now the barber charges 10 bucks for kids. When I go with my son one barber does mine while another gives my son a haircut in another chair (they 6 have barbers/chairs)... Total bill with tip is 27 bucks!
Then again, maybe kids have way too much esteem nowadays!
And it ain't like we are going every two weeks.
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This is a trick question: This year I learned that Lincoln was a closeted homosexual, a manic depressive, suicidal, misunderstood, psychic for having premonitions of his own demise, a participant in seances and the dark arts, and a doting father unable to control his own children or spending habits of his wife.
I guess that sums it up... Crazy bastard was a very UNREASONABLE man!
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I don't think I deserved that.
But seriously...just because some people are over-sensitive and can't have kids within ten yards of them, it doesn't therefore follow that kids should be able to run all over the place like little hellions. In general, reasonable people are going to keep reasonable control of their kids (i.e. keep them in their seats, keep them from shouting at the top of their lungs), and reasonable people are going to give kids leeway within those boundaries to be kids.
What I'm specifically thinking of, through this whole thread, is the idiots who let their children run around like amphetamine-soaked demons being physically disruptive, and laugh it off with "Kids will be kids". There is a happy medium between "Children should be seen and not heard", and "Children should be seen and heard by everyone in the building."
Warning, tangent.
Question.
Was Abe Lincoln a reasonable man?
If you don't get it... Do a little research on his parenting.
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The girl is a real piece of work.
Just don't read it if it bothers you. She did write a disclaimer. Why do people feel compelled to try an control the situation?
Personal responsibility= Don't read it or STOP reading it if you are offended.
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in general, a good hearted caring person does not like discipling their children but will do it if they don't have a choice... then you have the type of person that will belt their kids the second he does something remotely wrong.
my father in the time i knew him (since he left this earth when i was about 12) would never hit me or my brothers or sister. he would hardly raise his voice with us yet i never disobeyed him, i don't know why since i was pretty hard headed, i never did. my mom on the other hand when she was pissed off would slap me (not violently) but she would resort to it when i misbehaved and yet i rarely listened to her. I guess you have to have that sort of respect with your parents. It comes with time.
Intereseting is that some people will believe the exact opposite when what you say is probably the norm.
Like everything else, people will stand in defiance to direct physical opposition and become even more determined. Is it a way they can have control in a weakened situation.
The threat of authority is one thing... The actual use, another... The mystery of "what will happen" evaporates and one's will gets hardened. Again, I assume it is a natural human reaction in an attepmt to control a situation where you feel threatened.
Might doesn't equal right... It sure the heck builds a lot of resolve for the weakened party.
It is funny because they (relgious one's) always say: "Spare the rod, spoil the child." You can actually read that the exact opposite way proponents of corporal punshiment want it to be read. How do you define "rod?"... Figuratively as the wooden rod of a shepherd and the way he uses it as a "rod of correction" to guide and direct?
What I am saying is that you are never gonna pound your message into a child. You can only guide and steer them down the correct path.
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kids are hard to control, no matter how good a parent you are it is very difficult to discipline children. i have 3 nephews and they can be a serious handful at times especially since 2 out of the 3 are below 5 years old. sometimes it works but when there are guests over or they go visit they become little brats. that being said it's a fact of life, it's virtually impossible to keep your child from acting up, thats why they 're kids but there are ways of controlling them and making them behave respectibly. hitting is not totally wrong but there are limits. obviously a slap from my mom used to get me to stop being a brat but thats practically taboo now. It's reached to the point where a lil slap on the bum and the parent is an abuser. Obviously there should be control because many parents cross the line and lose it on their kids but that's more the stupidity of the parent rather than someone thinking it is correct discipline. I dread the day i have children if ever i do as i've seen how nuts my brothers goes trying to raise his 3 kids but it's a challenge.
That is good advice. The blue part says it all. Not that my grandfather was a saint... But, he was probably stressed out beyond belief and would have done something stupid! Without my dad... I may have never been here to tell the story!
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Regarding your OPTIONS, perhaps you shouldn't limit to either ignoring a tantrum, or grabbing a childs arm and giving him / her a "death glare". Removing the child from the situation (taking the child to the car and sitting with him / her until the "tantrum" has run its course) should probably be the first OPTION chosen. Why??? it removes the annoyance from the other patrons of the business, and it removes the child from being the center of attention, whcih may be a big part of what they want, and it removes your reinforcement of the childs behavior by reposnding to it in a attention attracting manner (death glare!). Why isn't this OPTION chosen more often???? because it is inconvenient to the parents. Things being "inconvenient" to parents is probably the root cause of much of what has been discussed on this thread.
Totally agree.
Even that option gets questioned!
Let me tell you what is wrong with this society. Everybody has opinions and passes judgement... It leaves your head spinning. And the kids know it!
I do exactly as you speak. Remove my child from the situation and the burden on others... And for their safety.
One time my son was acting up and running wild through a parking lot. I picked him up and carried him to the car where I could have him buckled in the car seat. He put up a fight and I sternly secured him into his seat. A lady in a passing car stopped and said: "Don't do that, he is a lot smaller than you." I said: "Don't worry, I am just putting him in his car seat so he can stay put... What do you want me to do? Have him run wild through the parking lot?"
She came into the situation half-way through it and now she is gonna pass on her parenting tips? But, she did get me to think about who and what is out there.
I suspect that lady would have just let her kid run a muck anywhere?
The problem is everybody has different thresholds and OPINIONS. HITTING IS NEVER THE ANSWER. But, questioning the non-violent, non-verbal abuse approaches? What gives? The parent or guardian still sets the rules. I can give her the benefit of the doubt because maybe she thought I was gonna go off on my son. Didn't it make headlines where a lady put her kid in a carseat and then went off on her? I thought about that and cut the interloper some slack.
On a side note: My parents did good by stopping the cycle of hitting. My father would get beat as a kid... He never laid a finger on us... My mother parented the same way. Violence is not the answer.
When my father was 8, he ran away from home. He hitched a train from Cheektowaga and ended up in Rochester, this was 1944. My grandfather worked on the railroad, he never drove a car or had an auto license. He had to take a day off of work and get a ride to Rochester to retrieve my father... When he got to Rochester, a police officer was with my father. My grandfather walked near them and mumbled: "You little bastard, wait till I get you home." You know what the cop said? He said: "If he lays a hand on you son, you come running right back to me... Don't you lay a HAND ON HIM." THIS WAS 1944! So goes everybody's theory that it (corporal punishment) was accepted. Needless to say... It might have sunk in with my grandfather... He never touched him again... It probably helped that my father would remind him what the officer said.
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Where else are they gonna move them? Both KC and PITT do have championships within the last 30 years.
Not to get off on a tangent, more different teams have won it all in baseball than football in recent years (last 30). Doesn't that say something? Teams can still "bring it home."
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To throw out another name...
My wife sews on a Baby Lock sewing machine and she loves it. I think it is made by Brother?
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What does any of this have to do with being a good parent? We eat preprepared meals , so what? Somehow I should eat mine or my wifes bad cooking and that will makei us better parents. Spose all the sugared up kool aid was better for you? Having said that, my kids do not get soda except for certain occasions
Should I also make them watch a B&W TV with three channels. Got news for you, your parents had the same debate this board is having.
Amazing to me how many friggen parents of the year we have here. This is like the discussion of bad drivers, everybody bitches about them, but nobody claims to be one.
So true...
Every generation since time began has had this debate. A while back I pointed out a book that talks about this. And you know what? They all thought their kids were going to hell in a handbasket.
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So you don't like polls, thats a pretty extreme poistion, you sure you don't want to just sit back and say something, "yeah go ahead and participate in polls, you andthe rest of the lemmings" or something equally well thoughtout. I am interested in what you next equally contraversial opinion will be ..............perhaps you can say that 'you don't like Mondays".........hey, that could be a song.
IMO, It is really a control issue. Unless people like that are controlling things, they hate everything else.
People will preach accountability. What kind of accountability (to others especially) do people like that (who you explain above) have when they exercise distain for everything else except their own notions of how things should be run? They are accountable to nobody except their own self. This works well if you are hermit or you are cloistered (
inside joke)... But, who can be like that in society at large?Signed,
Dr. EII PhD.
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I don't think anyone is referring to laughter and sandcastles - I know I'm not. I'm referring to the lack of manners, screaming, and temper tantrums, which seem to be a regular part of going out in public nowadays. The most incredulous part to me is that parents have the ability to press on with whatever they're doing while this stuff is going on.
I watched a nearly teen girl literally scream at the top of her lungs for over 10 minutes when I was at Penny's last weekend. I thought she was about 5 years old when I heard her (she was around a corner). Imagine my surprise.
You are also right Darin.
A lot of times I find myself in a trap. You don't want your kids to be a burden on other people, yet you don't want to temper good fun when they are not bothering anybody. Some people get bothered by the littlest things. What people tolerate really covers a broad spectrum.
It is easy in cases like you pointed out. It is harder in regards to other situations and the moods people are in?
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I have to side with Adam, BBB here and the others. Doesn't mean you have to act like jerks.
Maybe you feel that TD "talks down" to you as a fan or what not. That is for you to iron out.
You'd think this was your job or something? Even if it was... Still not right. Decorum must be held.
Just because you BUY a ticket, pay you taxes or whatever doesn't mean you have to spout off in a asinine way.
Who is running the show here? It is TD and the people at OBD. Is anybody putting a gun to your head and making you purchase tix or what not (products)?
You can still act professional.
It is the media that stirs the pot and then laughs all the way to the bank when we start "eating our own." Why do we play their game?
This is the kinda thing that carries over into public board meetings and other public types of affairs.
We can "carry oursleves" without being mean and personal.
Just as their are rules of conduct on this website, there are any rules of conduct in other aspects of society. You can ask hard questions, get your point across without being a bozo.
Just my $.02.
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The Bills pull out a win against the Patsies?
Not that it would make a difference. Not that it will happen. It would just be fun to see the reaction out of people.
Right now it is kinda like War of the Worlds around here. With people running around shooting radio towers.
Don't get me wrong... I predicted this team to go 5-11. And no, I am not keeping hope alive that the season can be salvaged. For me it was never slavageable.
We do get easily riled (and sometimes rightly so) here.
crayonz is making a mockery
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Maybe until it is "Burnt Umber"?
That is one serious Crayola color!