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Not to sound cold... It was only 12 people. Still, God rest their poor souls and I pray for their families. Though, I am NOT scared of nuclear tech... The coal industry is MORE safe, LONG term. I am all for pushing nuclear power... There is just more at stake and the margins for error are smaller. Long term issues with disposal are serious.
I will puke up the crap they have been saying: 2005 was the safest year ever for the US coal industry... Then whammo, this happens days after New Year's.

But, I have to admit... Go back to the beginning of the thread and NavyBillsFan got it RIGHT... The truth was out there in the beginning. Once, the "hope" of survivors spread like wild fire... All else was drowned out. The truth was ALWAYS out there.
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It is basic hard-hitting, disruptive and defense orientated hockey. Stand 'em up at the blueline (of course, now when the player is the puck carrier)
That is what I was thinking... Even with the new rules... The team that played the trap well in the past will eventually find a way to play it well within the new rules.
Stay true to the defense while still recognizing the new rules and open up at times I feel will take you far.
Don't get me wrong, not saying that the new rules are bad... They are the best. Teams like Buffalo (and a coach like Ruff) will benefit. The best of both worlds!
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I wasn't so much referring to the SB group. The reality is, that plus a few years in the 60s and the odd seasons here and there are the only highlights among a large amount of mediocrity.
Marv was over 40 games above .500 during his tenure. Despite that, the team's overall historic record is well under .500.
Agree and see your point.
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I'd put it differently than "two sets of rules". I think he treated players as individuals and wasn't a "rules" kinda guy. What works for one player doesn't for another. These are MEN. Treat them that way and expect (and demand) they behave that way. There will be times when someone does something wrong...then it gets dealt with.
As for the comment someone made about TT not being a team player. My response is "WTF are you talking about?" TT was totally team oriented. He made some mistakes (where's the helmut?) and could have been a better blocker. But TT took the younger backs under his wing...worked with them...gave them more playing time than the coach would have...and sang their praises. I never heard TT complain that he didn't get the ball enough...did you?
Exactly!
Marv is not a machine... He is a throwback, not a modern day robot that demands perfection.
In saying that, is that what a "maker" of men is? I say yes.
Just look at what eff-ups people like Kelly and Smith were early on. Kelly had his wild, "The U type" personality early on... Acted like a total arse at times. Bruce, with his taunting antics and other personal probs.
Yes, they did bicker... Who doesn't? They all turned things around. TT's personal demons surfaced later and he got through them.
Marv will be very instrumental with his philosophy he brings to the table. Unfortunately, all people see is the X's and O's / Win-Loses.
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This part strikes me as interesting, Byrne writes:
Perhaps Wilson can take lessons on how to do things right from new Minnesota Vikings owner Zygi Wilf, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, or New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft.
Take lessons in what? Racking up debt? This can be particularily dangerous in a small market like Buffalo if they don't get the "gate" receipts.
As much as RW has his demons... He was the only viable owner type to keep the team in WNY. Thank God we have him along with the Knoxes to weather the storm... You see what happened to the Braves.
RW is a very good, sound businessman... And THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR BUFFALO. It has paid dividends by kepping the team put. And it will continue to.
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Just what do the Bills have to lose?


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I am not really slamming you Darin and I see where you are coming from. Please don't take it that way.

I don't really think they "suck." Maybe disappointing through the SB and other lean years yet, they are echoes that cling to the psyche of Buffaloians and their fans. Sure I might have wanted things to be different. But, what we have is truly ours. Call it "sucking" if you want... I just don't feel that way.
It is a part of our history... and it is colorful. What other way would you have it? Throw in a few SB victory's would be nice... But, that is all it is.
If most people would just embrace what we are for the positive and stop trying to fill someone else's "cookie cutter role"... The region would be a lot better off.
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My initial reaction to Levy being hired was apathy. What can an 80 year old man who’s more of less been out of the game for close to ten years have to offer the Bills as GM?
He hasn't been out of the "game."
Like I said, he has been doing analysis for the Bears here with Comcast. He has been following the league.
Didn't he come out of the booth when he was first hired back in the late 1980's.
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I like to think I am in "training." 
How is this for grumpy?:
With all the snow and early freeze I had to resort to my "grumpy man mode" and throw up my "anti-snowmobile" defenses on my lawn. Now this, weather in the 40's and rain... All the snow is gone. I had to unwillingly 86 any plans of thwarting the S.O.B.'s and return my lawn to something more respectable than a Normandy beach on D-Day!
God, works in strange ways... Maybe he is just protecting my arse while I am still young?

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And rightly so... You EARN perks!
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I guess scouting anyone on the VT Hoakie squad is out of the question?
I can't post the link for the Tribune's article about what the refs said about VT and what went on vs. Louisville... They would have thrown Vick out if the ref saw it. The refs apologized for missing it. You needed to register... It is an eyeopener about the Hoakie squad and (Marcus) Vick... Just like his sleeze-ball brother, A.K.A: Ron Mexico
What are they putting in the water down in VA?
Was Bruce Smith a Hoakie or Cavalier?
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While there were similarities (and Levy and Co. may have been inspired by Sam's no huddle) they were, in fact, quite different. Cincy's no-huddle really DID violate the spirit of the game as it was used as a way to draw the D into penalties. They would snap the ball as the D was making changes and catch them with too many men on the field.
Buffalo used the no-huddle as an offensive weapon to keep same defensive players on the field and get them winded and confused. The Bills used a "hurry-up" offense...not a "wait to catch the D with too many men on the field" offense.
With that said, I'd take Sam Wyche as OC in a minute..if he thought he was up to it.
Thanks for expaining it also Dean!
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God, remember how much Wyche hated Levy, back in the late 80's when Marv complained that the Bengals "no huddle" offense vilolated the "spirit of the game!" Wyche had some rather unflattering words for Marv after that... I bet they will both get a few chuckles out of that...good NFL minds aren't afraid to steal others' ideas, I guess!
True... Chuckles for sure.
But as Dr. RockPile
(I say that with utter respect for you Rockpile... Your history link is what I check first EVERYDAY!) would give in his daily history (even a few days ago) session... Marv and Sam ran two DIFFERENT STYLES of no huddle. -
IMO, reading that article does validate what Levy has been saying (early and late in his life). What happened in Buffalo in the mid-1990's in Buffalo was a process that ran its course... No hard feelings, what not. It was meant to be. Mix in the cancer and what not... Then the spike in energy. Maybe Marv after a few years off wanted to try fresh elsewhere? He ran into the same obstacles. Could be everybody (owners and GMs misread his intentions but, that is their fault). Levy was NEVER the retiring type... Why not the phone calls.
Maybe ML is the one partner that was meant for Ralph.
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What is wrong with grumpy old men? Like Cable said, take a happy pill!

I am 37 and have all ready stated that I will be a grumpy old man... But, I will do it with a smile (does that really make me grumpy?).
Look out StuckInCincy... I am perfecting my lines:
"Get off the grass!"
"Pick-up that garbage!"
"Let me show you how it is done, whipper-snapper!"

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Would MM settle in as OC (and accept) and be given expansive powers?
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How could he not?
Kinda like working on a project with your venerable grandfather. After a while, seeing you dabble to the point of frustration, says: "Give me that youngen! Let me show you how it is done!" Are you gonna say no, sulk and huff off? Heck no!

The real question about this whole thing is:
Will FFS (Fake Fat Sunny) go back to his original handle?


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Age not an obstacle for lively Levy
Not sure if it was posted... Anyway, here is the Trib article by Don Pierson. The actual newspaper article gives a photo of a fit, spry looking 80 year old Levy stretching along the Chicago lakefront before a run. Also, interesting is that Levy had been doing analysis for Comcast here in ChicagoLand. At dinner on Monday, I was talking to my wife's friend (born and raised in Chicago...50ish) and he was lamenting how Levy knows his sh*t and would be great if somehow the Bears org picks him up... He got noisey with me when I said: "Watch, Marv will be the next GM for the BILLS." He said: "We AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THE BILLS HERE!

"Interesting that Levy was let down when they hired Angelo as GM in Chicago, (Dick) Jauron and later (Lovie) Smith as head coach.
For once I am glad that Chicago won in 2001 and 2005... Maybe their wins (and subsequent crashes... Gonna happen this year again, just like in 2001 when the Bears went 13-3...
) are our gain? Anyway, I am rambling... Enjoy the article.
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There's a sad sort of clanging
From the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too,
And up in the nurs'ry an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say "coocoo".
Regretfully they tell us,
But firmly they compel us
To say goodby to you.
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehn, good night,
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight.
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehn, adieu,
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.
So long, farewell, Au'voir, auf wiedersehn,
I'd like to stay and taste my first champagne
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehn, goodbye,
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye,
Good bye
I'm glad to go,
I cannot tell a lie.
I flit, I float,
I fleetly flee, I fly.
The sun has gone to bed and so must I
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehn, goodbye,
Goodbye,
Goodbye,
Goodbye!




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One of the All Time worst Coaching Jobs I have ever seen...I mean is there anyone in the entire Football World that did not know Young was going to Run the Ball on 4th Down?...And the decision to go for it on 4th Down at Mid Field? What the heck was that?
Just horrible...No way SC should have lost that Game...They were the better Team IMO...And if Bush does not try that stupid lateral they would have saved Carroll the brain craps of having to make any 4th Quarter decisions because the whole Game turned on that Play...
Congrats to Texas though...They took advantage of SC's arrogance and Won the Game...They should be talking about this one for a while...

Did work for the Mtneers... Yet, that was a fake punt.
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Not watching the game but, I must agree... I would have punted.
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Why is it nobody remembers that we already ran Marv off once? The pitchforks were front and center after the 1997 season when the team basically quit on him. Wade Phillips came in in 1998 and was actually an IMPROVEMENT. Marv was a good coach, but couldn't put together a staff and was not a real X and O's guy himself and got handled by the better, more gameplan involved coaches of his time, like Gibbs and Parcells.
True.
But, the game ebbs and flows through the years... The work-alcoholic coaches will prove just that... Work-alcoholics.
Look at MM, all the time they spend gaming planning. It shows on the opening drive. Isn't Buffalo still second in the league behind Indy in scoring TD's on the opening drive of games? Or close to it... Where things get FUBARed is after that.


Adjustments, adjustments, adjustments. Never really have been Marv's strong point with the execution type philosphy he pushed though. That is where, IMO, the Bills will run into the roadblock with MM.

How can people say Marv will be a disaster!
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