HurlyBurly51

"Even the Baltimore Ravens, the team that drafted him in 2004, didn't make much of an effort to bring him back." But that's not really the point being discussed.

Yes, he is here now, but I'm not sure what your point is, considering the post you quoted. All BillnutinHouston was pointing out in response to the OP is that Edwards did not in fact CHOOSE Buffalo, they chose him because he failed the physicals of the 2 other teams he visited, and his former team puller their offer. He essentially had no other options. Kinda shoots down the OP's notion that folks have been proven flat out wrong. He brought up some very poor examples to try to make his case.

Interesting that the Sporting News has Williams as the #10 rated DT. That's not #10 overall best player in the draft, but 10th rated at his position. Guess they're not very high on him. I think you're on to something here

It's dated, but in case anyone's interested here's the draft write-up of him from Nolan Nawrocki's PFW Draft Guide in 2004: Positives: Good initial quickness. Flashes burst to penetrate. Has a thick frame and good lower-body strength. Can play with leverage and hold the point. Wide frame to control gaps. Strong hands to shred. Keeps head up to locate ball. Good short-area quickness. Competitive, durable and tough. Has agility, balance, and can change direction. Good football intelligence and feel for blocking schemes. Can collapse the pocket with a bull rush. Flashes quick hands in pass rush. Good effort and motor. Excellent character. Not vocal, leads by example. Production improved each year. Got bigger and stronger each year. Negatives: Tends to play high and loses leverage. Not sudden or explosive. Not a consistently dominant player. Good, not great, upper-body strength. Steady but not overpowering. Needs to further develop as a pass rusher. Flashes quick hands but doesn't put two moves together consistently. Summary: Not a big-time, flashy guy but his combination of size, strength, and quickness definitely catch your attention. May never be a premier player with big numbers, but his lower-body strength, ability to control gaps and durability will take him off the board by the end of the second round.

And just slightly embarrassing!

Oh I agree, I will wait for confirmation. But back to the point you were making about Shefters credibility being at stake here, I don't believe it is because no matter what happens, his original report remains accurate.

No ****!

I don't think his credibility is in question at all on this one. He has reached an agreement, but hasn't signed yet. If someone swoops in last minute and steals him away, his report was still accurate.

No respect JW, no respect!

I doubt they go with McLain with the signing of Davis today.

Why doesn't Dwan just tweet already?

I'm so confused. Is he a Bill or not?

Like the signing a lot. Scratch McClain off your lists.

That sucks. Get 'r done!

Some people are just afraid of "dark Richie"

We'll see how long you're singing that tune when Edwards is our starting QB in 2010!

How 'bout a "Trolls 'R Us" section?

I thought someone was arguing that Incognito was gonna get no interest, and therefore that justified the Bills FO from retaining him

This is like watching lemmings jump off a cliff.

It's called the "Buffalo premium" and the FO ain't payin' it. We're in firesale mode. It's officially closed. BTW, memo to the front office. If you don't want to be used like a 2 bit whore in the future, don't plan on bringing anyone in unless you are ready to pay the "Buffalo premium" on the spot.

I agree about the trading down part, but the primary motivator won't be to acquire more picks. It's to get out of paying top 10 crazy money. This team is in firesale mode.

HFBD