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They now need to send the ref's to a "coin lobbing" school.
We can't get a rule change on a catch, but the coin toss needs to be updated...
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What I find most interesting is the rule allows the clock to run through that 5 minutes left mark in the 2nd half. Last night the Chiefs had a player go OOB at ~5:05 left in the 4th. The officials spotted the ball and the clock ran down until ~4:45, when the Chiefs snapped the ball.
Correct. We discussed this during the Patriots game when Sammy went out of bounds.
Under five minutes in the fourth, a player moving backwards out of bounds does not stop the clock. A lateral or forward moving player going out of bounds does as well. Under two minutes, regardless of the direction that a player travels out of bounds, the clocked is stopped.I dont believe that your second statement is true. If the yardage is given for forward progression, then the clock wouldn't stop. If they run out of bounds backwards, then that is the players intention, and the ball is spotted where he goes OOB. If he catches a ball and is tackled backwards OOB, the clock would not stop because the player did not intend (make a football move) to do so.
Bolded statement is also untrue, there is no reason in that situation for the clock to restart. The player intended to go backwards OOB, clock is stopped until next snap.
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Rule 4 Section 3
ARTICLE 2. SCRIMMAGE DOWN
Following any timeout (3-37), the game clock shall be started on a scrimmage down when the ball is next snapped, except in the following situations:
Whenever a runner goes out of bounds on a play from scrimmage, the game clock is started when an official spots the ball at the inbounds spot, and the Referee gives the signal to start the game clock, except that the clock will start on the snap:- after a change of possession
- after the two-minute warning of the first half
- inside the last five minutes of the second half
Edit: Formatted to read easier
They changed the rules a few years back to speed up the game.
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Thank you officials
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That will be called a fumble, but it shouldn't. The ball moves, but he regains control, his butt hits the ground the ball comes out.
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How is Amendola not ejected after that?
That is one of the dirtiest plays ever.
100% agree. He should be fined at the least
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Rex Ryan said TT was "ready to go" at the end of game.
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Why the fu*k isn't that reviewed?
Edit: maybe I should say reviewable.
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I was going to start a thread on this.
That was, by far, the worst call of the game.
Poz was coming full speed right at woods and woods blew him up.
Further, when does a penalty on a play where there is a change in possession get enforced? Block happened while bills had ball, but McCoy fumbled and recovered by Jax. So Jax gets the ball and a pre-possession penalty? That can't be right.
It's right because of the nature of the penalty. It was a personal foul, which is always enforced. Personal fouls are considered more than a procedural penalty, so they enforce it no matter the outcome.
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Yeah, how is that a penalty? I can't even figure out what the ref thought he saw. Well I'm sure to get blasted but we were without our starting QB, RG, RT, two WRs, back up RB and best player on Defense. And we still should have won the bleeping game!
That's a testament to how bad the Jags really are.
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!@#$ this team and !@#$ that official.
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"Illegal formation... The entire offensive line"
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All scoring plays are automatically reviewed
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He's all over the place. 900 feet up to 1300 feet... What an a$$ hole!
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I wonder if the passengers were nervous.
No, I've been nervous lots of times.
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I think that all of this is a non issue, since there was almost no way for the Lions to recover the football. Johnson fumbled forward under 2 minutes, which by rule can only be recovered by him, which wasn't going to happen.
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Everyone keeps saying it was against the rules, but not 1 person knows how to enforce this situation (or has stated as such). The (I bet the ref didn't either, hence no flag)
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I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
I wonder if the conditions were sluggish, like a wet sponge?
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It looked intentional to me. But that could be bias from his other "accidental" kicks.
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Thing is, the ref throws the flag just as the pass is released so he doesn't really know its going to be a TD. My beef is the over-officiating. The Ref "thinks" he sees a guy block low but if it's not 100% obvious why is he flagging it?
My question from up thread still is Why is the referee watching the line?!? His responsibility is the quarterback!
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The worst part is that the idea of advantage / disadvantage is not used anymore by officials. In every sport, if the player committing the foul gains an advantage, call the penalty. If it has no effect, don't call it. RI did not disadvantage the player (hell he didn't even fall). Plain and simple don't make that call.
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What's happened over the last 10 years or so is that whenever somebody accuses X group/corporation of conspiring to do Y, they are immediately grouped in with lizard people/UFOs/JFK/etc.
The truth is governments/intelligence agencies/corporations and many other groups work by conspiring against the public and are actually caught all the time.
They have turned "conspiracy theorist" into a slur in order to discredit ANYTHING remotely close to one. It's very dangerous propaganda and it worked.
The NFL fixing games does not seem insane to me, especially when it happened in the NBA less than 10 years ago.
I think that this reply should be the start of a new Off the Wall topic, because the first 3 paragraphs are spot on. If you are looking at this thinking conspiracy theorist, please go read about Risperdal, or !@#$ Dupont knowing what their chemicals did to the groundwater in WVa. Then think about the Supreme Court ruling allowing corporations to be essentially people.
It goes on and on...
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Hussey was standing at least 10-12 yards behind Tyrod on that play and in the FOX feed you can see his view was shielded by the other Bills lineman. IMO, just too many 'radar' calls today by an inexperienced crew...
If anyone is a football official, what area is the referee supposed to watch on plays?
I ask because in Lacrosse, as the trailing official in 2 man or the single side official in 3 man, when an offensive player takes a shot, this official must watch the shooter (to look for late hits and protect the player).
I was under the impression that the referee watched the quarterback and the other officials the line and such. That being said, why is he watching the line?
Can Someone Explain a Game Clock Question for Me?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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If the player is tackled backwards in the legal area of play, the ball will be spotted at the furthest forward spot the ball was before the tackle (forward progress). Since this is within the field of play, not OOB, the clock would run.
Sammy was never touched. He rolled OOB on his own, which is possible because NFL requires a touch while down.