Kemp

You are entitled yo your opinion. Am I entitled to mine?

I want him to succeed because all these years of failure are annoying. I have no desire to be right and the team fails. It's just my opinion that he is a bad thinker in the passing game. Do you really believe that if Allen brings a Super Bowl I will be upset? The only negative part of this stuff is some here calling me an idiot for my opinion. To me, if you disagree, fine. To act like an ahole about it just makes me think that poster is probably not bright nor nice. In any case, it won't make me change my opinion of Allen. Only a huge uptick in performance will change my opinion of him. There are external factors that affect accuracy, but when you consistently put up poor completion percentages, perhaps you have a lot of the responsibility. There are external factors that affect accuracy, but when you consistently put up poor completion percentages, perhaps you have a lot of the responsibility. Why is that unreasonable to you?

I never said he should be a finished product, yet. I am saying the negatives we heard about in college are the same negatives, now. Maybe they will disappear. Maybe they won't. My guess is they won't. This thought drives some here off the edge of a cliff, foaming at the mouth. Then they insult me and they think this will bother me, I suppose. His decision-making and accuracy is poor. Until both those change, there is a problem.

Imagine judging a QB by his passing stats and results. It's clear that your feelings are way more important. I don't care what you think of my intellect. It should be clear by now that insulting me is pointless. If you care what strangers think about you, you have bigger self-worth problems that you might want to look into. You believe Allen is performing well. I disagree. That this difference of opinion drives you nuts is pretty funny. He has been a great runner and a terrible passer. Absorb much?

Bad protection makes him hold the ball longer? My agenda is that he is not performing well in the passing dept. I have already said he might get better. You think external factors hurt him, now, and in college. Maybe you are right. Maybe not. If you are right, he should be much better next season and my guess will be wrong. Right?

Did I use completion percentage as a sole arbiter? I pointed out that he is last in the league by a large margin in release time. Poor in TD-INT rate. Throws late to receivers. These were the complaints about him in college. Pattern or correctable? We don't know yet. If these results change next season, none of this matters. If they don't, he'll probably bust. That people think he has been decent to good this year is unrealistic. The only question is whether he is a struggling rookie or not good enough. That's not even a bad or negative way to view him. He has time to become good. We all hope he does or the franchise is royally screwed.

We are now bragging about passing for a total of 3 TDs in 3 cherry-picked games against poor competition and for being ranked 20th in that timeframe. How low can this bar go? He's a rookie so he gets an incomplete grade, but these results next year will be a disaster to near everyone here. Hopefully he figures it out. Else it's time to look for yet another QB. By the way, I think Foster and McKenzie might not turn out to be as bad as portrayed by many here. You put words in my mouth. I returned the favor.

Stats don't lie. His stats in college were eerily similar. Yes, he might get better, but right now he is a bottom 10 starting QB. Has anyone answered my question about why Barkley produced miles better than Alen has so far?

Rushing yards over winning, for a QB. Got it. I like when a QB throws more touchdowns than interceptions and he wins. If that's lame, I'm fine with it.

Raise your hand if you thought Allen was brought here to run the ball. No one ever said that before he played a game. He is supposedly a classic drop-back passer. He runs so often because he takes off out of the pocket way too soon. He often releases the ball too late. A 52.4 completion rate is good? A 62.4 Passer rating is good? 5 TDs and 9 interceptions is good ? Buffalo's defense is number 1 in the NFL in yards given up and the team's record is 4-9. Sure there are other contributing factors, but every single poster here knows without question that your QB is the number one most important player in winning or losing. By the way, I've noticed that none of you can account for the fact that a career 3rd-stringer like Barkley in 1 game performed far better than Allen has in any game. Yeah, it's only one game, but if Allen performed like that some of you would be acclaiming his already being great. Maybe next game or next season Allen will step up as a competent NFL QB , but not so far.

I never said he can't run. I said he has been an utter failure so far at passing the football. I have an odd view of evaluating a QB because I want him to be able to throw the ball accurately, make quick decisions, and not turn it over. Take a look at the QBs in Super Bowl history who failed at those three things and won anything. It's not a long list. How many QBs have had successful careers by just gaining yards on the ground? Is there one? For the hundredth time, he might get better because he is a rookie, but his history in college didn't indicate growth, so I remain pessimistic. What he might become is unknown. What he has been is terrible by any measurement. You maintain he has been good in the last 3 weeks. If these are his stats next season you will think he is terrible. Your only valid argument is that we should wait to see how he turns out. To argue he has been good without taking into consideration that he is a rookie is something that even you don't believe. At least one would hope you are grading him on a curve.

I watched them. Here are the stats for the games you cited as proof of Allen as a QB: Here are the stats for the great Matt Barkley with the same personnel: I suggest that it's you who might benefit from paying attention to what you have been watching.

Allen statistically takes far more time than both of them and everyone else, with far worse results. Maybe because so far, at least, he does suck. I've said he might improve. I just doubt it because his weaknesses in college are still big weaknesses in the pros.

Holding the ball longer than any other QB, by itself is a bad thing, in my opinion. Why do you think it even exists as a stat?

We don't know, but we have seen so far is exactly what Allen's critics and analytics told us what we would get: A QB with accuracy issues who holds onto the ball way too long. That he is dead last in both categories is not a good sign. He might become better in both categories, but the odds seem stacked against him.

We have no choice but to wait and find out who is right. I am rooting for you, because if I am right, forget about the next 3-5 seasons.

Allen takes longer to throw than anyone and has a worse completion percentage than everyone. That is not a recipe for success.

You actually have it backwards. Holding onto the ball too long gets you sacked, not getting rid of it. He's holding onto it longer than every other QB. He panics and runs because his ability to anticipate routes is garbage.

Take a look at how long Allen holds onto the ball compared to every other NFL QB and try and explain it as a bad offensive line: (TT column) https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yards.

You don't need a Brady to win but you do need a QB that can react and think quickly. It might also help if Allen was accurate more consistently. I thought and still think that Mayfield will be good enough to win a Super Bowl. He was the best in college, and while it's still very early, he's the best of the crop, now. You think it's a coincidence that the best QBs get rid of the ball fast?

The good QBs are quick decision makers. One of the knocks on Allen in college was reacting too slowly. Now he's doing it in the pros. Shocking. One of the announcers today criticized him for just that on the pass to Jones outside of the end zone.

You don't think Woods and Hogan got MUCH better after they left Buffalo?

Brady turns crap receivers into good ones. Tyrod did the opposite. So far, Allen is like Tyrod.

I remember the apologists saying the same things about Tyrod having crappy receivers. Somehow, when they left Buffalo, they became good receivers.

I don't know if it's still true, but as of a few weeks ago, Allen was holding onto the ball longer than every other QB in the NFL. That's on him.