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And people wonder why recruits choose to go play for Bama ...
On 4/29/2018 at 6:25 PM, Bill from NYC said:This National Champion Alabama Team had no less than 12 players drafted, and this does of course not count our 2 (and I don't know how many other) udfas. I'm unsure if this has ever happened before.
IIRC, OSU still holds the NCAA record with 14 players drafted. 12 was the highest by one school this year, and the highest in Bama history.
QuoteI am NOT making a statement that the Crimson Tide will win #18 in 2018. They need to stay healthy, etc. I do however think that the Tide offense will be better this year at every positional group. Maybe a lot better.
ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Tua continues to develop and plays up to his potential, complimented by a Saban D, the SEC will be a Crimson blood bath this year.
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24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Which is what Ralph said....hence the not faulty comparison.
The other poster said his comments indicated he was moving the team; they indicate that he is not moving the team.
Still a faulty comparison. The Toronto series was a failure. It was cancelled.
In case you haven't noticed, the Bills no longer play any games there. There are ZERO NFL games being played there.
I have no doubt if the series was successful, the Bills would have shifted to playing more home games there.
In regards to London, the series has been successful for the NFL.
For the Jaguars, the series has been so successful, the owner bought a stadium to "protect the Jaguars' position in London".
Khan 's comments indicate nothing, other than he is staking a bigger claim in London.
As I said before, he could move the team to London, play 7 home games there, and play 1 home game in Jacksonville.
1 home game a year is still a "stable and promising" future when compared to no games in Jacksonville.
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39 minutes ago, teef said:
maybe he was trying to be gay. maybe in stead of, "it's rosen" he said, "it's growin".
maybe it really was 'rosen'.
Kind of like woke/awake.
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37 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Remember when Ralph moved a game a year to Toronto? Yeah...
Faulty comparison. Bills did horrible in Toronto, and that series was not well received.
That series was cancelled.
31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:This is what he said:
"The games the Jaguars play at Wembley are essential to the financial stability of the Jaguars in Jacksonville, which is one of the smallest markets in the NFL. If my ownership interests were to include Wembley Stadium, it would protect the Jaguars' position in London at a time when other NFL teams are understandably becoming more interested in this great city. And the stronger the Jaguars are in London, the more stable and promising the Jaguars’ future will be in Jacksonville."
Interesting statement and a more interesting comment.
He's essentially admitting he has squeezed out as much revenue as he can out of the Jacksonville market, and that he needs another market (London) to support it.
There is nothing in his statement that prevents him from eventually moving the team to London and playing 1 international series game in Jacksonville. His comments would still be true.
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26 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Not sure what the bolded has to do with the Glazers, who very much run their sports empire as their father did--including Man U.
Also, what is Khan's stated "agenda" here?
An even better question, what do the Glazers, and how they run their business, have to do with Khan and how he runs his?
The Buccaneers have not played a game in London in 6-7 years?
Meanwhile, the Jaguars are scheduled to play a game in London for a consecutive 6th time in 2018.
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On 4/22/2018 at 8:36 PM, Juror#8 said:
This is hilarious (and probably not unique to Alabama). You be the judge:
Quick. Somebody needs to post that link to
https://scout.com/college/auburn/Board/Football-Forum-102332
Do it as a "concerned citizen" afraid for the future of college football.
I want to see what happens.
For science.
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1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:
So you took 4 years out of his entire career. In the NFL he was 38-28 86 TD 68 INT. In Buffalo he was 21-9 47 TD 30 INT.
Remember when you said this?
"Ya lol he did was win everywhere he went ..."
Doug Flutie went to San Diego. He didn't win.
1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:lets not forget he played most of his career in the CFL because well teams were dumb back then on smaller QBs. Innthe CFL he won numerous championships. But again, I asked who has buffalo had since Kelly who was better??
What he did in the CFL, and whether or not he was the best QB on the Bills since Kelly, are meaningless, if you are trying to make the case he was a "good" NFL QB.
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27 minutes ago, Gordio said:
Well if Reed didn't take that penalty costing the Bills 4 points that final drive the bills could of settled for a game winning chip shot FG instead of needing to score a TD. & BTW most QBs in the league would of cough that football up in that situation. Armstrong went unblocked & put his helmet right between Flute's chest. I am hardly a Doug Flutie fan, but there is no question he was the better QB of the two. I can't believe people even debate this. Your arguments are beyond ridiculous imho.
1. I never said RJ was better than DF. I just find it laughable when people think DF was a "good" QB.
2. There are many "ridiculous" arguments in this thread. The worst? "Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda".
"Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda" arguments rely on the belief if a play, or a series of plays, were changed to a desired outcome, everything else about the game would stay the same.
That's a ridiculous assumption to make. But you wanted to play it, so I played. My "Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda" is just as ridiculous as yours.
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2 hours ago, Sky Diver said:
No stretching is required for a 5x improvement in performance.
"Flutie just wins where ever he goes".
5-11 record. 8 TDs, 15 picks down the stretch. WINNING!
15 minutes ago, Gordio said:That penalty by Reed would of been a total boneheaded play by a rookie let alone a season veteran. Totally inexcusable to lose your composure at a time like that. Cost the bills what most certainly been the tying TD & had to settle for a FG.
So, the Bills managed to salvage 3 points on that drive from Reeds mistake.
Can you remind me again how many points the Bills were able to salvage after Flutie's 3 drive ending mistakes?
15 minutes ago, Gordio said:It would of been a totally different ball game if Reed would of just went back to the huddle.
Ah, the Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda game.
If only Flutie coughed up the ball 2 times instead of three. Especially that last one. That was not only a difference maker, that was a game killer.
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13 hours ago, Sky Diver said:
1 win in 2000 to 5 wins in 2001. Nice improvement.
Hope you did some stretching before you tried to make that reach.
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3 hours ago, Sky Diver said:
1. WAY TOO EARLY to worry about recruiting rankings.
2. Besides, this is "unpossible". I read on here when Georgia took the #1 ranking this past year, that was a sign that Bama's slide down has begun.
3. Did I mention it was WAY TOO EARLY to worry about recruiting rankings?
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6 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:
Ya lol he did was win everywhere he went, even Buffalo. But he just sucked.. I mean I know he wasn’t the greatest QB but since Kelly can you name one QB for Buffalo that was better? (I’m honestly asking because I as an outsider can’t think of one better. Maybe Bledsoe but he was washed up by the time he got to Buffalo.)
2001 -San Diego. Started all 16 games. Team went 5-2 through the first 7 games, then promptly lost 9 straight to finish 5-11.
That's some kind of winning there.
During that 9 game losing stretch, DF threw 8 TDs and 15 picks, including 0 TD, 3 pick performance against the Raiders.
When questioned about the 3 picks, DF blamed the field conditions for one (WR slipped trying to reach back for a poorly thrown ball), a "lazy" DT on a another (DT played contained and plugged the passing lane. DF hit the DT right in the chest), and actually took responsibility for the third.
During the same 9 game losing stretch, DF did an interview where his poor play came up.
He denied he was playing poorly, and could not believe people actually thought he was.
Why? Because he was third in the public portion of the pro bowl voting
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2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
He was hardly the greatest player ever, but we shouldn't be holding him to that standard here given that the subject of this thread is ultimately Rob Johnson. In no world was Johnson better than Flutie.
Never said RJ was better, but this concept that Fultie was somehow "good" is laughable.
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Just now, Sky Diver said:
A 70% winning percentage is hardly mediocre.
A meaningless stat by itself.
16 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:Not for nothing, but that Miami defense was far better than the 1999 Titans' defense in pretty much every category. Flutie had turnovers, yes, but he basically lit the best defense in the league (1st in points allowed; 3rd in yards allowed; 1st i INTs; 3rd in passing TDs allowed; 3rd in net yards per passing attempt allowed) up like a Christmas tree.
But that was typical Flutie. For all the "good" things he did, he would do enough stupid s**t to negate it.
He would scamper 15 yards on a 3rd down to keep a drive alive, but 3 plays later throw a pick into double coverage while there was wide open WR on the other side of the field.
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3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:
Flutie threw for 360 yards, but it was a bad game all around that they should have won.
Flutie was the very definition of mediocrity.
360 yards? Yes! 1 TD and 3 Turnovers?
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On 4/22/2018 at 9:52 AM, Sky Diver said:
You appear to be forgetting a couple of critical elements of the Miami game.
1. Mounds fumbled away a near certain TD on the Miami 12 yrd line after a 65 yrd pass play.
2. Andre Reed bumped the referee after he was called down on Miami’s 1 yrd line and earned an ejection and a 15 yrd penalty. The Bills had to settle for a FG.
3. The Bills committed 9 penalties and had 4 fumbles.
2 of them by Flutie, plus a pick.
But it was Moulds and Reed's fault.
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As others have pointed out, Tua has played more than just 30 minutes of football, and he has been a play maker in every instance.
For 2017, he threw a TD for every 7 pass attempts. In comparison, none of the top prospects in the upcoming NFL draft can match that.
Mayfield, based on overall CFB career, was the closest at 10.
Darnold, based on per season, was the closest at 8 in 2016.
Fromm, a true Frosh last year, and a player that many people on this board think will be good, is at 12.
Matt Wyatt, an analyst for Miss State, broke down all of Tua's pass plays for 2017. You can find those here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP_0UKjRtvOyBnqG0A4d6ig
You watch those, and you can see why Bama fans are really excited about Tua. And it's not based on 1 half of football, or 1 good play in NCG.
With that, I think the kid is going to be great, but I want to see at least 1 full season of him as the starter where defenses are game planning against him.
Once that happens, we can come back talk about it.
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2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:
How do you win the national championship and drop a spot, geez.
It's one of those new fangled Alabama rules.
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1 hour ago, Sky Diver said:
I'm not sure I buy into this this list completely, but Nick Saban is #12 on Forbes World's Greatest Leaders list, so at least they got that one right.
Not the first time he's been on the list. He was #11 in 2016. He's dropped a spot.
i'm thinking of driving over to Tuscaloosa and throwing a brick through his window.
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2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Isn't Manziel playing ?
Manziel is playing in the NFL spring developmental league. A two week season being played in Austin. First week was today.
https://www.thespringleague.com/
Spurrier is going to be a HC in another non-NFL spring league, starting in 2019.
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15 minutes ago, Tisker A Tasker said:
Flutie has become less polarizing as time has gone on, because Rob Johnson's career amounted to nothing. ...but at the time there were a lot of people in Rob Johnson's corner because when he was good, he was really good (including, "The Coach" Chuck Dickerson who railed on this nightly). There was a sense of hope with Rob - that he could become a top-line franchise quarterback. In fact, he may belong on this list more than Doug does.
Nah, Flutie was definitely more divisive. It's not even close.
When RJ left, nobdoy cared. When Flutie left, there were "Bills fans" (as if they were) who openly rooted for Flutie and the Chargers to beat the Bills in 2001.
Also, when Flutie played with the Chargers in 2001, it was interesting to watch the San Diego fan base go through the same exact BS Bills fans went through.
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48 minutes ago, jaybee said:
I dont really care what the TBD sheep think. I'm routing for this kid. Lets face it...the league has gotten so pathetically boring. Look no further than the "who we gonna draft" threads here on this bulletin boardfor clarification.
Jesus, how long have you been here? EVERY off season the main board is filled with redundant thread after redundant thread. In reality, there is just not much going on in the NFL right now.
48 minutes ago, jaybee said:He was a blast to watch at A&M and fer Kri-sake I need a reason to watch football again other than my beloved Buffalo Bills. He'll bring some electricity if he keeps his head on straight.
GO JOHNNY FOOTBALL !!
If you think Johnny Freefall will bring "electricity" to the NFL, boy, are you going to be disappointed. He was good to watch at aTm because his receivers did most of the work.
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1 hour ago, alluro said:
It would be foolish to think media attention and hype doesn't lead to more ticket sales. Even if you don't think it will improve the team on the field, the Bills will want those extra ratings and sales.
Yes, media attention and hype lead to ticket sales. Heck, the Bills signed Terrell Owens just for that purpose. Why? Because the team was bad, and the organization needed something to generate fan interest in the team. Only the foolish (and there were a lot) expected Owens to be the spark that would propel the Bills onto better things.
Once again, the foolish paid attention to the hype, the splash, and the image, and were disappointed in the end.
But there is a difference in the kind of media attention. Bama gets all kinds of media attention. How good the coach is, how good the program is, etc ... That's the good kind.
Manziel got a ****load of media attention while on the Browns. Almost none of it good, and I doubt the Browns were slapping themselves on the back for it.
Owens was signed to be a starter. Manziel is a scrub, and is hoping somebody will sign him along with his baggage.
You want hype and media attention? Hope the Bills draft one of the top QBs. It will not matter which one.
You will have more hype and media attention than you can stand, regardless if the player is actually good or not.
1 hour ago, alluro said:I think Manziel is a better talent than AJ and Peterman and there is little if any downside to bringing him into camp and letting him have a shot.
And I would vehemently disagree Manziel is a better QB than McCarron. McCarron is going to get an opportunity to compete for a starting position, even if it only ends being temporary. McCarron has proven to be a fierce competitor, a student of the game, and a leader.
Manziel is none of that. That's why he's going to play in the Spring League, hoping somebody will believe he got his crap together, turned his life around, and is deserving of another shot in the NFL. I hope he has turned his life around. I truly do.
On the football side, IMO, he's not a leader, nor does he have the will power or commitment to become a better player. He's camp fodder at best.
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37 minutes ago, alluro said:
There is little to zero downside to bringing him into camp and seeing first hand if he's changed or merely acting for the cameras.
On the flip side, the guy was one of the greatest college players of this generation and a first round pick in the NFL draft. Odds are he probably won't be the answer, but it wouldn't hurt to kick the tires on him when you are looking at AJ McCarron, Peterman, and a rookie in the QB stable.
Manziel is proof people fall in love with the "flash" and image of a player instead of paying attention to the actual player.
Johnny Football owes his collegiate career and draft position to Evans and the other Aggies receivers. They bailed Johnny out constantly.
37 minutes ago, alluro said:At the very least, Manziel would give the Bills some national buzz and media attention. He may even help sell some tickets for all of the folks who still believe in Johnny Football.
Rex Ryan created a national buzz and media attention for the Bills. How did that work out?
Until somebody can show me proof that a correlation exists between media attention and a better team on the field, this has to be one of the stupidest rationale to acquire anyone, whether its a HC or at best, a camp fodder QB.
Besides, do you think somebody will actually run out and buy Bills tickets just because JF made the camp fodder list?
AJ McCarron's Arm Strength
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Ah, yes. One of my favorites: