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Just now, row_33 said:
That makes it 8 of 10 playoff semifinals that have been a totally noncompetitive waste of time
Scotty, we need more teams!!
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10 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
I said as the major standard- if you have multiple undefeateds then you must seperate somehow.
Feel free to post all the criteria you use before SOS to rank/separate teams from different conferences.
10 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:Just stick with Auburn did not care about the peach bowl last year it is a much simpler argument.
Auburn lost because of the $7M+ anchor running the team.
And after yesterday's big win over Perdue, I can only hope the Auburn AD feels pressured to give that anchor another big fat extension with even a bigger buyout clause.
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I think I am developing a serious man crush for this guy.
Jalen Hurts: 'The story is not over'
"Q: How do you want to be remembered at Alabama?
A: Everyone wants to go down with a … I think every competitor wants to leave some kind of legacy, and be remembered in a great fashion, and go down in a legendary style, but I can’t say that my story is over."
"Q: Have you submitted any paperwork to potentially put your name out there in that transfer model, or are you going to wait until after the season?
A: I’ve spoken about that already in the fall. I’ve never said anything about transferring. Those words have never came out of my mouth. Those have always been kind of assumptions, and if I haven’t spoken about it, then I don’t think it’s a conversation to be had."
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Could it be ...
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On 12/27/2018 at 10:43 AM, Buffalo Timmy said:
But they had the most difficult schedule of all the undefeateds and beat the #3 team at the time of game. Who do you think was clearly better? Washington did not even win there conference.
For somebody who thinks it's insanity for SOS to be a major standard, you just used SOS to make your case.
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5 hours ago, Perry Turtle said:
The whole UCF argument is about the power 5 conferences trying keep their grip on the obscene amount of money college football generates.
Here's a concept. Why don't the G5 teams band together, and petition the NCAA to create a new football division level just for them?
Then, they could do whatever they wanted without interference from the mean ole P5 teams.
They could call it the Cupcake Series. And they could play for their own national championship, the Golden Cupcake.
And every team gets to make the playoffs, and receive participation trophies, because that's only fair.
But back to a more serious side. Why don't the G5 teams petition the NCAA for own division?
If the G5 teams had their own division, they would be free of the constraints of the P5 teams.
5 hours ago, Perry Turtle said:UCF had a better claim to a seat at the playoff table last season when they kicked Auburn's ass in the Sugar Bowl after Auburn throttled Alabama (I know, I know, SEC hacks, Auburn wasn't trying it hardest). Memphis and USF also had better seasons last year. UCF also had it's starting QB all season.
Is that why Auburn lost? And here I thought Gus Malzahn was just a crappy coach.
Silly me.
5 hours ago, Perry Turtle said:This season, Milton's injury hurts their Bowl chances, but ragging on UCFs schedule is pretty ridiculous when Alabama scheduled Citadel the week before Auburn this year.
Oh, jeez. This old tired argument. Yet, not a peep about UCF playing South Carolina State.
5 hours ago, Perry Turtle said:College football needs to expand its playoffs to 16 teams. The Bowl season has become a joke and needs to have some games with some meaning injected into the schedule.
Please explain why adding even more crappier teams fixes any problem? You think watching the #1 team slaughter the #16 team would add meaning?
Might as well watch the Cheez It bowl.
5 hours ago, Perry Turtle said:Teams like UCF who built a solid program deserve to be able to compete for the rewards of exposure.
Sure, why not. Question: What are schools like UCF , and their fan base, doing to increase their teams exposure other than feeling entitled that P5 teams should give it to them?
5 hours ago, Perry Turtle said:Or maybe people are happy with watching some combination of Alabama/ Clemson/ Notre Dame/ Georgia/ Oklahoma/ Ohio State play in the playoffs every year, augmented by abominations like the Cheez It bowl.
I agree. There are to many bowl games. Of course, the irony is, if it wasn't for the "Cheez It" bowls, the G5 teams would have even less exposure.
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It's been about 10 years since I last saw a movie on the big screen.
I figured I needed to stop spending gobs of money to listen to someone else's phone call and/or hear their film commentary.
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3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Don't know anything about model trains but I'm going to guess you can't run a set up that large without multiple transformers feeding power
It appears to be a battery powered Lego train set. No transformers needed.
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On 12/24/2018 at 7:23 PM, Buffalo Timmy said:
One- where they are in two years in not part of this debate FSU is not good now and they were good for 20 years in a row. Second- they are ducking the gators? Are you ignorant of the offer? A 2 for 1 when UCF has been the superior team for that past two years and UF will have the right to buy out the game if they choose. UCF will take anyone on under a 1 for 1 set up. Third- their opponents were not stellar this year- but they only play who is on their schedule which did not matter for Bama last year when they beat zero top 15 teams last year before playoff and had a loss. But i have realized that most of the people who argue SOS are stuxk in 1995 when being top 10 was a big drop to 20- this year # 10 is gators who were stomped by mizzou. I can give ypu plenty of other arguments but why bother you will confirm your bias each step.
1) Where a program will be in 2 years can be part of the debate. Since these agreements are for future games, that future being usually 2-3 years later. That's because the majority of the programs already have the next years schedule set, barring any last minute changes.
2) The argument of "A 2 for 1 when UCF has been the superior team for that past two years and UF will have the right to buy out the game if they choose" is a moot point. Multi-game agreements rarely, if ever, include the up coming season. See point 1 above for why.
3) Buyout clauses in these types of agreements are standard. They exist for both teams. Griping about how UF will have the ability to buy out the contract, is again moot. The agreement will have buy out clause for UCF. Buy outs are pretty common. Example: UCF had an agreement with UF to play games starting in 2006. UF blew out UCF 42-0 in 2006. UCF took the buy out for the 2007 game.
4) " I can give ypu plenty of other arguments but why bother you will confirm your bias each step." Feel free to provide other arguments. All you keep doing is proving your bias.
Here's the real reason why UCF doesn't want to play 2-1: "[UCF AD Danny] White has made it clear he would prefer to schedule home-and-home series with Power 5 opponents because the school generates more revenue from a home game than it would from playing a payday game on the road."
It's all about the $$$$$.
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8 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:
Well then critical thinking isnt your forte. I'd like to see them in it, but the conference is awful and they dont schedule Jack ***** out of conference either.
You do know that whole stuff with the Gators right? They're refusing to play them. UCF was cool, they jumped the shark. They are undeserved arrogance and just want big pay checks. They're brand building right now, it wont work.
He clearly has no clue what he is talking about. It's a cool story, but they dont want that business and they know it. They're feeding off of the punching up vs teams inactive bowl game vs a team that actually had a chance at the playoffs and blew it and are completely deflated.
They can get in the playoffs. It's actually really easy. Go to the swamp, go to to FSU, and go to Miami. Those teams weren't even that good this year, they could beat them. But they are embracing this Napoleon complex way too much and telling teams to come to them.
They'll be a 5-7 win team with a crap schedule within 2 years.
Pretty much.
UCF is pulling the same stunt Boise St did.
Look at us! Look at us! We are the shining new object!
In the end, they just want the money the exposure gives them.
They could care less about "respect" and "fairness".
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7 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:
Yea Auburn totally burned Cam.
Newton was a senior JUCO transfer, and played only 1 season when Gustav was the OC for Auburn.
In terms of success, he is an outlier.
Gus had success with Nick Marshall, but Marshall now plays as a DB in the CFL.
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3 hours ago, zow2 said:
Tyree and his family probably see the same thing as you. That his stock is plummeting and it’s time to move on to a larger program and get “better coaching” and talent around him. I think it would be foolish of him to declare for the NFL. He’s not ready. At the beginning of the season I was wondering if Tyree was already better than Josh Allen?! Now it’s no way.
How about Auburn as a landing spot? Some in the Twitterverse were suggesting that.
Better coaching.
Auburn.
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The only thing Gustav has shown he can develop is a cold.
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On 12/21/2018 at 8:04 PM, Buffalo Timmy said:
I keep hearing strength of schedule but is there anything else that you can argue for keeping them out of top 4? SOS is the argument made by people whose main desire is too keep the big five in control. Truly that argument is built by people who simply do not want to actually work to check out all the true contenders.
UCF is a top 4 cupcake. Probably number 1.
Not sure what you are arguing about.
5 hours ago, Bfanlc said:Upgrade for their schedule?
Well, the did play South Carolina ..........
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Good. I hope Tim Hortons quits. I hear Krispy Kreme will be available in the off season.
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19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Oh man!! That Fields and Fromm relationship is apparently a little icy.
I don't thinks Fields and Fromm as it's more Fields and Smart.
Not sure if Fields heard more than Kirby actually said, or Kirby said more than he should when Fields was recruited.
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5 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
The teams in the finals would have 16 game seasons. Pros played only 14 for many years. That 1 extra game could destroy a multi-million dollar career for a student athlete, many of whom come from impoverished backgrounds. It isn't fair imo.
I even think that the conference championship games are b%%^&$@#.
4-5 years ago, the P5 teams had the NCAA by the nut sack, threatening to pull out unless it coughed up some exceptions.
At the very least, the P5 should have demanded a new upper division for the P5 teams only, in order to stay in the NCAA.
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18 hours ago, Willyville Guy said:
Lots of talk in the Twittersphere today about the athletic directors discussing an eight-team playoff for 2020. Teams ranked 1-4 would get a home game against 5-8.
I would be absolutely giddy to finally welcome a southern team up north for a playoff game in December.
According to ESPN, the SEC is against the idea.
16 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:This the best part, hands down.
For the uniqueness of it, or do you honestly think it would provide an advantage (game in December vs Southern team)?
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23 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
This would be too many games for these kids imo.
And will not solve a damn thing. It will only escalate the whining by the G5 crowd.
A P5 non-conference team making it over a G5 conference champion combined with even more blowouts will have the same idiots crying about expanding the playoffs even more.
Because fixing the problem adding by even more weaker teams will somehow, by magic I presume, prevent blow outs.
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2 hours ago, row_33 said:
just like the NCAA and the networks agreeing not to make a single school a marketing device
oops, NBC just swooped up ND and broke all that, it hasn't remotely paid off
It sure pays off for the school though
*Cough* Longhorn Network *cough*
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Going to Mizzu
We can cross one possible destination off the Jalen Hurts possible destination list.
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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Like the hire
Another year, another new co-ordinator.
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Congrats to the following for making the All-SEC Coaches Poll.
Bama led all schools with 12 selections.
1st team:
Jonah Williams, Alabama
Jerry Jeudy, Alabama
Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama
Quinnen Williams, Alabama
Deionte Thompson, Alabama
2nd Team:
Irv Smith Jr., Alabama
Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
Ross Pierschbacher, Alabama
Damien Harris, Alabama
Isaiah Buggs, Alabama
Dylan Moses, Alabama
Mack Wilson, Alabama
Roll Tide!
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6 hours ago, CajunBillsBacker said:
Welcome to SEC football, it’s all Alabama all the time. Even if Alabama is not playing he will mention Alabama a minimum 10 times during the broadcast. Even my wife who doesn’t even watch football has noticed the same thing with the CBS crew and asked me about it just by passing through the living room when I’m watching.
That's all Danielson. This is part of what said earlier where Gary will latch onto something and does not let go.
It's not limited to just during the game, it will carry over.
During the Tim Tebow years at Florida, he would constantly bring up Tebow during non-Florida games.
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30 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
No sane college football fan would deny that you raise legitimate points. There are however other things to consider....
Not that you called for it in the post above but expanded playoffs would seem on paper to make things more fair, however this is football, not basketball. Just how many games do you think these kids can or should play. If 3 of 4 playoffs teams go to the title game, they will have played 15 games. Notre Dame will have played 14.
Expanding the playoffs will solve nothing. It will just add even more weaker teams, and create even more chaos.
There are more 2-3 loss teams as opposed to 0-1 loss teams.
You will still end up trying to answer the same questions:
- Who deserves to get in.
- And what criteria is used to determine that.
The NFL has a very specific process for tie breakers, but even the NFL uses strength of schedule and strength of victory as criteria at some point.
When there are 32 teams, in a very controlled environment, with the parity of talent from top to bottom, that criteria is piece of cake when compared to college football.
30 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:Personally, I think that conference championship games should be eliminated. How many fans actually give a crap about conference championships?
Alabama was the 4th seed last year and we know what happened. Should UCF have been put in that 4 slot instead of them? Seriously? College Football teams don't play equal schedules. I'm not sure that UCF would have 7 wins against Alabama's opponents. They might, but I'm not so sure.
Also, who do you think is a better team, Notre Dame or Georgia? I would go with Georgia but they got beat up by LSU and lost to Alabama. Notre Dame was undefeated and does deserve to be in there imo, and I don't think they were given much of a shot before the season.
I am NOT trying to be combative with this, but it is hard for me to understand exactly what you think would be a fair system.
In order to create a fair playoff system, we are going to have to go outside the box.
At the very least, a simple solution would be the G5 teams band together and create their own playoff and national championship.
And the trophy could be a giant golden cupcake.
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16 hours ago, KD in CA said:
I guess all the people here arguing for teams who didn't earn it on the field would be happy if the NFL let Roger Goodell just announce who the playoff teams would be based on which ones were 'the best' and not which ones earned it by winning games.
The NFL is not college football, and the comparison is weak.
The NFL has 32 teams split across 2 conferences in 8 total divisions. Everybody plays the exact same number of games.
There is no way to expand the league unless a vote is taken by owners of the current NFL teams.
The NFL controls everything: scheduling, creation of conferences/divisions, etc...
College football at the FBS level has 130 teams across 10 conferences and some independents. About 3 years ago, there were 128.Not everybody plays the same number of games. (ND only played 12 games, but everybody else in the playoffs played 13).
Any college program can be classified as an FBS level team, as long as the meet the NCAA requirements. The other schools have ZERO say in this.
This year there are 130 FBS teams. Theoretically, there could be 135 next year, 140 the year after, etc....
At any point, independents could come together to create another conference.
Current conferences can shift, as we saw this past decade.
Other than player eligibility, all control is handled by the individual schools and/conferences until the post season. Independents have to generate their own schedule.
Conferences dictate inter-conference play, and get to decide if the conference will even have a championship game. There is no requirement to have one.
There is no way to make a "fair" playoff system in the FBS when the system itself is fluid and chaotic to begin with.
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Gameday Thread: CFP Semifinals
in College Football
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Yes, haven't you heard? 8 teams will fix everything.
There will be rainbows, and leprechauns, and unicorns.