Cynical
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3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:
Flutie threw for 360 yards, but it was a bad game all around that they should have won.
Flutie was the very definition of mediocrity.
360 yards? Yes! 1 TD and 3 Turnovers?
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On 4/22/2018 at 9:52 AM, Sky Diver said:
You appear to be forgetting a couple of critical elements of the Miami game.
1. Mounds fumbled away a near certain TD on the Miami 12 yrd line after a 65 yrd pass play.
2. Andre Reed bumped the referee after he was called down on Miami’s 1 yrd line and earned an ejection and a 15 yrd penalty. The Bills had to settle for a FG.
3. The Bills committed 9 penalties and had 4 fumbles.
2 of them by Flutie, plus a pick.
But it was Moulds and Reed's fault.
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As others have pointed out, Tua has played more than just 30 minutes of football, and he has been a play maker in every instance.
For 2017, he threw a TD for every 7 pass attempts. In comparison, none of the top prospects in the upcoming NFL draft can match that.
Mayfield, based on overall CFB career, was the closest at 10.
Darnold, based on per season, was the closest at 8 in 2016.
Fromm, a true Frosh last year, and a player that many people on this board think will be good, is at 12.
Matt Wyatt, an analyst for Miss State, broke down all of Tua's pass plays for 2017. You can find those here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP_0UKjRtvOyBnqG0A4d6ig
You watch those, and you can see why Bama fans are really excited about Tua. And it's not based on 1 half of football, or 1 good play in NCG.
With that, I think the kid is going to be great, but I want to see at least 1 full season of him as the starter where defenses are game planning against him.
Once that happens, we can come back talk about it.
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2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:
How do you win the national championship and drop a spot, geez.
It's one of those new fangled Alabama rules.
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1 hour ago, Sky Diver said:
I'm not sure I buy into this this list completely, but Nick Saban is #12 on Forbes World's Greatest Leaders list, so at least they got that one right.
Not the first time he's been on the list. He was #11 in 2016. He's dropped a spot.
i'm thinking of driving over to Tuscaloosa and throwing a brick through his window.
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2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Isn't Manziel playing ?
Manziel is playing in the NFL spring developmental league. A two week season being played in Austin. First week was today.
https://www.thespringleague.com/
Spurrier is going to be a HC in another non-NFL spring league, starting in 2019.
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15 minutes ago, Tisker A Tasker said:
Flutie has become less polarizing as time has gone on, because Rob Johnson's career amounted to nothing. ...but at the time there were a lot of people in Rob Johnson's corner because when he was good, he was really good (including, "The Coach" Chuck Dickerson who railed on this nightly). There was a sense of hope with Rob - that he could become a top-line franchise quarterback. In fact, he may belong on this list more than Doug does.
Nah, Flutie was definitely more divisive. It's not even close.
When RJ left, nobdoy cared. When Flutie left, there were "Bills fans" (as if they were) who openly rooted for Flutie and the Chargers to beat the Bills in 2001.
Also, when Flutie played with the Chargers in 2001, it was interesting to watch the San Diego fan base go through the same exact BS Bills fans went through.
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48 minutes ago, jaybee said:
I dont really care what the TBD sheep think. I'm routing for this kid. Lets face it...the league has gotten so pathetically boring. Look no further than the "who we gonna draft" threads here on this bulletin boardfor clarification.
Jesus, how long have you been here? EVERY off season the main board is filled with redundant thread after redundant thread. In reality, there is just not much going on in the NFL right now.
48 minutes ago, jaybee said:He was a blast to watch at A&M and fer Kri-sake I need a reason to watch football again other than my beloved Buffalo Bills. He'll bring some electricity if he keeps his head on straight.
GO JOHNNY FOOTBALL !!
If you think Johnny Freefall will bring "electricity" to the NFL, boy, are you going to be disappointed. He was good to watch at aTm because his receivers did most of the work.
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1 hour ago, alluro said:
It would be foolish to think media attention and hype doesn't lead to more ticket sales. Even if you don't think it will improve the team on the field, the Bills will want those extra ratings and sales.
Yes, media attention and hype lead to ticket sales. Heck, the Bills signed Terrell Owens just for that purpose. Why? Because the team was bad, and the organization needed something to generate fan interest in the team. Only the foolish (and there were a lot) expected Owens to be the spark that would propel the Bills onto better things.
Once again, the foolish paid attention to the hype, the splash, and the image, and were disappointed in the end.
But there is a difference in the kind of media attention. Bama gets all kinds of media attention. How good the coach is, how good the program is, etc ... That's the good kind.
Manziel got a ****load of media attention while on the Browns. Almost none of it good, and I doubt the Browns were slapping themselves on the back for it.
Owens was signed to be a starter. Manziel is a scrub, and is hoping somebody will sign him along with his baggage.
You want hype and media attention? Hope the Bills draft one of the top QBs. It will not matter which one.
You will have more hype and media attention than you can stand, regardless if the player is actually good or not.
1 hour ago, alluro said:I think Manziel is a better talent than AJ and Peterman and there is little if any downside to bringing him into camp and letting him have a shot.
And I would vehemently disagree Manziel is a better QB than McCarron. McCarron is going to get an opportunity to compete for a starting position, even if it only ends being temporary. McCarron has proven to be a fierce competitor, a student of the game, and a leader.
Manziel is none of that. That's why he's going to play in the Spring League, hoping somebody will believe he got his crap together, turned his life around, and is deserving of another shot in the NFL. I hope he has turned his life around. I truly do.
On the football side, IMO, he's not a leader, nor does he have the will power or commitment to become a better player. He's camp fodder at best.
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37 minutes ago, alluro said:
There is little to zero downside to bringing him into camp and seeing first hand if he's changed or merely acting for the cameras.
On the flip side, the guy was one of the greatest college players of this generation and a first round pick in the NFL draft. Odds are he probably won't be the answer, but it wouldn't hurt to kick the tires on him when you are looking at AJ McCarron, Peterman, and a rookie in the QB stable.
Manziel is proof people fall in love with the "flash" and image of a player instead of paying attention to the actual player.
Johnny Football owes his collegiate career and draft position to Evans and the other Aggies receivers. They bailed Johnny out constantly.
37 minutes ago, alluro said:At the very least, Manziel would give the Bills some national buzz and media attention. He may even help sell some tickets for all of the folks who still believe in Johnny Football.
Rex Ryan created a national buzz and media attention for the Bills. How did that work out?
Until somebody can show me proof that a correlation exists between media attention and a better team on the field, this has to be one of the stupidest rationale to acquire anyone, whether its a HC or at best, a camp fodder QB.
Besides, do you think somebody will actually run out and buy Bills tickets just because JF made the camp fodder list?
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7 minutes ago, RollBillsRoll said:
I apologize, I shouldn't have posted that specifically about Mayfield, as I don't know him personally. I was watching football with my 8 year old daughter when they played the crotch grabbing clip, and I had to explain about sportsmanship, class, and maturity...Not the image of athletics I want my kids to have. Anyway, my bad.
The comparison was meant to be more of why Mayfield is considered franchise material? I have read he has an average arm, below average height, and has had some questionable off the field issues. Yes he had great stats, but he played in the Big 12 where it seems they throw it every down...he never got his team to the big show.
AJ had great stats, even when playing in a ball control offense, has the same fire and leadership, and won 2 championships. Arm strength is similar, leadership is similar, AJ is bigger, has NFL playoff experience (should have gotten a win, thanks Bungles), yet he is considered a backup...I just don't get it, but again I am admittedly ignorant to the politics and economics of the NFL and the seemingly never ending search for a "franchise" quarterback (Johnny Manziel, anyone?)
Loved AJ when he came out of college. Would have snapped him up in the 3rd or 4th round in a heartbeat.
Why do people think guys like Mayfield are franchise material and Aj is not? Because people get caught up in the "flash" and highlight reels. (See Johnny Football)
With AJ, he played at Bama, that actually hurts him. People consider him a system guy, and cannot possibly be that good.
Looking forward to see him play.
Oh, yeah. ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
Cannot wait for A Game. Hoping to see Tua grab the starting spot.
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Jalen Hurts fulfills lost bet.
I love this guy.
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I know the NCAA wants schools to self report violations, but every time I read something like this, I ask myself what's the incentive for the school.
IIRC, there was a study done a few years that showed schools that self reported got bigger penalties than schools that lawyered up after the NCAA came sniffing around.
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3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
..even more woeful and despicable if you turn your back on a child in need.....pretty sad IMO...
Even prior to this, his mother and father would not qualify as "model parents".
JM's outlandish behavior was in part enabled by his parents. It was only after he became wildly out of control did they suddenly have concerns about his actions.
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13 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:
Kirby needs to win a Nat’l Championship in the next 3 years or people will be thinking he can’t coach up talent recruited.
This was Sabans worse recruiting class since being at Bama. That was the point of my post.
No doubt Saban can win with new coaches at different positions. I think though the massive turnover the last 2 seasons is impacting the talent being brought on campus.
No, it was not.
2007 was the worst. In 2009, Saban won the NC.
2018 is his smallest class, which impacts the final rankings.
Will the turnover the past 2 years have an impact? Sure it will. The beginning of the end? This where I have to
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I have heard this song and dance before.
In 2013, Auburn won the SEC and went on to lose the NC.
Afterwards, I had to hear how Gus Malzahn was going dominate the SEC and own Saban.
Since then, Gus is 1-3 vs Saban, and with 1 SECCG appearance where he got curb stomped in a rematch with UGA.
In 2015, after losing to Ole Miss, I heard how Bama's dominance was over. The demise of Saban has begun.
3 straight NC appearances and 2 titles later ...
Saban has proven he can adapt and develop talent he does land, regardless of the coaches he has on staff.
That was my point. And as you pointed out, Kirby still has yet to prove that.
Besides, you think Bama will continue to have the turnover it has had the past 2 years?
You better hope not. That means Bama is on top or near the top, and once again, teams are looking to pluck from the best.
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7 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:
UGA just set a record for the most Five Star recruits with this last class. I am the first to say Kirby Smart now needs to turn that into a National Championship.
And if he doesn't?
QuoteI am wondering if this could this be the beginning of the end for Coach Saban? The loss of all the assistant coaches might be taking its toll where it counts the most, finding talent and getting them on campus.
Oh, please. Why is it after some perceived Alabama "setback", people start yammering about the demise of Saban and Bama.
It's not like Bama is suddenly scraping the bottom of the barrel in recruiting.
Saban has 6 NC across 2 different programs with 3 different DC and at least 5 different OC. IMO, the loss of assistant coaches might have an impact, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as you hope.
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Tosh Lupoi has been named/promoted as Bama's new DC.
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Looks like WR coach Mike Locksley is getting the nod for OC:
https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/report-mike-locksley-named-new-alabama-offensive-coordinator
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54 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:
I don't like that PI is a subjective thing. A little pushing and shoving is okay but a lot gets you a flag. The ref's judgment makes all the difference.
They need it make it more black and white. Any non-incidental contact before the ball on either player should be a penalty.
How does that make it less subjective? It's still up to the human official to determine who made the contact.
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29 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:
You listed how it is a fix. UCF beat everyone put in front of them, and the team that beat both Alabama and Georgia and never had an opportunity due to human judgments.
It is completely a rigged system inside and out filled with human biases and at no point relying upon a standardized system with a methodology that determines who gets in. It's a joke.
I did not list how it was fixed. I listed how 3 different groups came to the same conclusion.
So unless you can supply some kind of proof of collaboration among the 3 groups so they all produced the same rankings, it's not "fixed" or "rigged".
As for Auburn, the last time I looked, got stomped by UGA in the SECCG.
There are 128 teams across 10 divisions plus independents. How do you standardized that? Do you block the independents from playoff eligibility? If the independents are allowed to play, what methodology or test is used to make that determination?
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20 hours ago, KD in CA said:
They rig it every year in favor of the big name, southeast teams because they want the highest ratings. But over time that may come to harm the sport.
p.s. Congrats to the undefeated national champion UCF Knights.
What is there to fix? Before the post season, the CFB Playoff rankings, the AP rankings, and the coaches poll rankings all had the same 4 teams.
Yes, congrats to the undefeated UCF Participation National Champions.
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31 minutes ago, CanadianFan said:
He better be. Lane said Tua was leaving if he didn't get the job:
Eh, I am always skeptical of what Kiffin says. He will say and do things just to cause controversy and chaos.
That said, I do not think he was totally wrong. Saban had 2 QB's transfer on him after Hurts won the starting gig last year, so it was a real possibility.
I do think Tua would have transferred if he thought he had no chance for an open QB challenge in the spring.
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Completely expected after he lost the starting gig to Fromm.
And UGA just replaced him with a highly rated recruit from GA this signing period.
Rob Johnson is still bitter after 20 years
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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A meaningless stat by itself.
But that was typical Flutie. For all the "good" things he did, he would do enough stupid s**t to negate it.
He would scamper 15 yards on a 3rd down to keep a drive alive, but 3 plays later throw a pick into double coverage while there was wide open WR on the other side of the field.