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On 12/11/2017 at 12:17 PM, Elite Poster said:
$128 per night???? Where'd you stay? The Ritz Carlton geezzzz
Motel 6 on the Thruway ramp in Hamburg was $105.00. It is like a long trailer with doors.
$128 is more like Red Roof price not the Ritz.
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2 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
I'm watching with interest. But this team is going nowhere in the playoffs, so making the playoffs just means breaking the drought and not much more. I care more about being good than how many years it's been.
I don't see the Bills competing with any team likely to be in the playoffs.
Sadly I agree.
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I believe we have a chance. The Bills must win two more games and probably need help.
I love my Bills but they have found too many ways to NOT win.
I have been saying "Wait 'til next year since 1967, so forgive me if I do not Billieve.
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On 12/9/2017 at 11:01 AM, Elite Poster said:
Yes, the opener will do that to you.... Literally every game at new era besides the opener and MAYBE a dolphins or pats game is very affordable. I've been sitting exactly where I want to (50 yard line, first row, 300s) for 1-2 games a year for around $120 for the last 7-8 years. IMO, that's the best seat in the house and a god damn bargain. The money you spend on food and beer should not be an indictment to the ticket price. Just tailgate and you'll only need a couple beers from inside the stadium which sets you back $15-20 if that? If you park, don't do it at the stadium, there are plenty of lots around the corner that are cheaper and tailgate hot spots. If you split things up with a group, it's a $200 day for 9-4pm and all you can eat or drink.
Sign me up.
I understand what you are saying.
I was pricing the cost of the opening weekend, that includes a motel and the TBD tailgate not just the ticket price.
I can (and have) scored tickets for a lot less for other games, left in the early A.M (no hotel or Saturday night parties), and never buy beer or food inside the stadium.
You either spend too much time in line at the concessions or rest room. I also do not like to be buzzed *during* the game
I park at Hammers because I can always find friends, food, and drink there to share.
If you are pricing out the cost in your example for one person, then it is the same as my cost per person for two people from 7PM Saturday to 7PM Sunday.
I have made it to at least one game a year since probably the 1980's.
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58 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
THE NFL IS PRICING OUT THE REGULAR FAN!!!!!!!
On opening day, I had two "nosebleed" seats in the upper deck. It was a beautiful day and I mainly went for the TBD tailgate. I stayed over on Saturday at the Motel 6, to see more friends, and all I wanted was a cheap place to crash.
Adding up the sum of two tickets, gas, tolls (only 160 mile round trip), food, beer, and parking, it was easily a $400 day (and night) for two people.
It was a wonderful time, do not get me wrong, but it was CHEAP for me compared to folks from WAY out of town. Please note I bought no food or drink inside the stadium. I also bought no souvenirs.
I do not know how the regular fan with a couple of kids could cover this very often, if at all.
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I am just hoping the Bills beat the Patriots this week.
Speculation beyond that does not mean a lot to me.
I do not mind if others enjoy trying to figure out who has to win and who has to lose, for wild card or 2018 draft positions, but I like to just take it one win at a time.
I have been disappointed too many times farther to look into the future!
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14 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:
Coming into the season I figured the plan was to run Shady until his wheels fell off, then replace him next season.
Here is how I would figure he will be handled in the off-season. I believe they will approach him about either a restructure or pay cut with the idea that he will not be the lone back next year. I think if he is unwilling to deal, they will cut/trade him and swing with a rookie and possibly Cadet. I believe if something can be worked out McCoy will be back with a rookie backing him up/splitting carries.
I hope they can keep Shady.
Cadet is a worthy backup and special team player. He had a good day yesterday.
BUT:
He will be 29 in February, Shady will be 30 in July.
He is a career journeyman: Saints, Patriots, 49ers, Saints again, Jets, Bills.
His career combined rushing/receiving yards total in eight years is less than 1,000 yards.
He should be returning kick offs. Tate makes me nervous.
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2 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said:
I'm happy for the fans that were looking for a glimmer of hope during the long holiday weekend but I'm not fooled.
All today did was prolong the inevitable and ruin draft position, ironically though it might help improve the draft pick we are getting for the Chiefs because I see them losing at least a few more games given their upcoming schedule.
So it would be better if we lose now?
I watch the Bills one week at a time and it is more fun if they win.
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On 11/23/2017 at 10:24 PM, #89 said:
She is now gone. I was hoping for tomorrow because today was her granddaughter 18 birthday and I didn't want this to be a sad time for her. She fought til the end and I'm so, so thankful for her life. She was a kind giving soul & a beautiful woman inside and out. She loved Steve Tasker and would say hi to the TV when his West Herr ads came on. Said Steve reminded her of my brother Jim and Steve was always kind to Mom.
I am sorry for your loss, Cindy. It sounds like you are lucky to have had such a great Mom. God Bless.
Tom
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33 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said:
Chiefs have scored something like 1 TD in their last 30 offensive possessions and that came today against us.
Yes it was nice to get a win and end a 3 game skid but this is still a very bad roster with a subpar starting QB that tried his best to blow the game several times in the 2nd half.
Yes, it sucked that Tyrod allowed the Chiefs to score a touchdown.
Do you care the Bills won?
What is wrong with you?
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Nice to see a fan stop by who has something to say, not just light a flame!
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I was very disappointed watching the game last night. I knew this was not going to be an easy game to win on the road.
It helps a little NOT to have any expectations. Seriously. Too many years of letting myself be hurt because the Bills are who they are.
The Bills have exceeded my expectations, since I only expected them to show up for 16 games. Anything more than that is a bonus.
What else can THEY expect from a five decade fan?
That said, I will watch them for the whole season, and will be cheering for them.
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So tomorrow night I'll be out of town on the road. Unfortunately, Yahoo decided to make this one of the few games they don't want to broadcast. How unlucky. Does anyone have an idea how to stream audio of the game? Go Bills!
In Rochester, NY I can get the game on the radio, but not video. Does the cable NFL Network broadcast it locally?
What pisses me off the most is that Rochester was IN the "local" broadcast area when they blacked out HOME games when tickets were not sold out.
Now the NFL says only WIVB in Buffalo is in the local HOME games zone and it is televised.
Rochester is no longer local.
All about the
money!Way to expand the Bills home team football fan base you A**holes!
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Doom and Gloom is always trendy for Bills fans.
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Frontier High late 60's - we had to swim nude.
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I hope we stay at the top in the win column.
I do not care about someone's power ranking opinion. The lower the rank the better, and may our opponents have "bad days" every week.
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What can I say - a day to remember! Was there a football game?
I will not try to thank everyone for the food and friendly greetings, for fear of missing somebody. It was a great time and the primary reason I do not miss opening day at Hammers.
There was more food than I could eat!
There were more people than I could spend much time with!
Even my daughter had some of that fine raccoon and enjoyed meeting many of you for the for the first time, and seeing others she had met before!
THANKS TO ALL WHO HELPED MAKE THIS THE BEST TAILGATE OF THE YEAR !!
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Good turnout for WNYTBDGPS today!
Jay Rubeo
Just Jack
Taro T
R. Rich
Pinto "Ron"
aussiew
Rockpile
See most of you tomorrow night!
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I'll be there!
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ONE general (hopefully close to prime) arriving 8:00 or earlier.
Thanks!
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What time are people going to Hammer's?
Will there be a reservation list for parking?
Looking forward to our annual reunion!
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I vote "yes" if the trades were motivated by a desire to get better THIS year as well as to get more picks NEXT year.
I refuse to accept the idea that they are intentionally throwing in the towel after one preseason game.
So my vote is "conditional".
I admit I was shocked when I first heard this news. I love Watkins but I still worry about his injury.
I am now back in my insulated position of having no expectations for the season beyond I expect them to play 16 games.
Being a fan with no expectations is like running my PC in safe mode. Not as much fun, but less chance of a heart attack.
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I will be sure to watch for your review!
GO BILLS!
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It's a hot one on aluminum bleacher seats, going up to 84 today. My grandson's here with me, and says it'll be 101 in Austin. So I'm not bellyaching.
Got a chance to see Murph on his way to the press box.
Croom, Reid Ferguson (snapper), Rehkow, Poyer, J-Will, and Sammy are over by the JUGS machine. Those doing the most work on the JUGs included Watkins, Tre White, and Ronald Darby, who both arrived later and stayed later.
The ten players who were last on the field were Dareus, Incognito, Deandre Coleman, Leonard Johnson, Worthy, Mudge, Wood (no helmet; off-day), Rambo, Shareece Wright, and John Miller.
Positional Drills were up first, short session. The QBs had Groy over there hiking to them. The Gill Byrd was the most vocal coach. He had the CBs and Safeties working on technique for double-teaming a WR off the line of scrimmage. I NEVER saw this at training camp in the past. At the end of positionals, Jordan Poyer gave Bradley Sylve a high five.
During calisthenics, led by Asst for Strength and conditioning Coach Hal Luther, we gave Astro-Stars to Poyer, Colton Schmidt, Zak Voytek, Saxton, O'Leary, Incognito, Hodges, Dez Lewis, and Walt Powell for going "All In" on their stretching.
Only 2 players dogged it that we saw: starting Guard John Miller and bubble Tackle Michael Ola.
Back to Positional drills they went. Tate is doing exercises off to the side, and Colt Anderson is doing upper body work (throwing down a medicine ball, using a sledgehammer) with trainers.
- TEs are working on blocking. Later, I picked up the order the TEs go that seems significant: Clay and O'Leary go first, Logan Thomas and Croom go next in that order, and Saxton-Towbridge.
- WRs are pivoting around a tackling dummy and making a quick catch. After that, the WRs do essentially a 3-cone drill full tilt, then catch it. Zay Jones and Powell were best at this. Never saw this before at a camp.
- WRs have to catch a ball while being simultaneously hit by a blocking pad. Never saw this before at a camp.
- QBs are practicing quick outs, then hand-offs to RBs who have joined the fun.
- The RB Asst Coach is an excellent teacher and motivator with lots of praise when a TE "gets it". Today, Cedric O'Neal gets a "That's IT! That's IT!" from him.
- Jonathan Williams makes two catches where he "double-catches" the ball. That won't work in a real game. Worth watching.
- Daikiel Shorts makes a wonderful catch at the near sideline, securing it before he goes out. Well-coached.
- TEs and OLs get practice together, double-blocking one guy, then splitting to block a looping DE when the DE commits to a gap. Never saw this before at a camp.
- Karim Barton is getting coached up on how to handle arm moves. Castillo's coaching is direct and certainly meaningful, as Barton is listening intently. So are the other OLs around him. Over Pat Whatshisname, last year's OL Coach, this may be the biggest coaching upgrade.
- It appears as though Brandon Tate is getting a PT test off to the side. Hopefully he's back soon.
- Clay looks like he's making effortless catches, but it's his eye-hand coordination. O'Leary has this same quality of looking the ball in. O'Leary gives a high-five to Yates as they return to the line.
- TEs are first doing seam routes down the middle. This is an open seam which occurs often in a vertical offense. Then the TEs do an out and in pattern, where the QB throws when the TE breaks. This timing route practice is not anything I saw in previous camps, which blows my mind.
- With 35 seconds to go in the Positional Drills' allotted time, the defense appears. You can set your watch to it.
Each QB gets one 11 on 11 opportunity, with Tyrod first, then Yates, then Peterman. It's all the same 4th and goal from the 8-yard line, and all three QBs execute subtly-different plays for a TD.
- Andre Holmes goes in motion and looks like the "hot" receiver. Tyrod hits Watkins perfectly in the opposite corner of the end zone for the TD.
- O'Leary motions with 4-wide (Butler, Powell, J-Will, and Philly). Yates is pressured hard and needs to throw it falling backwards to Philly in the corner of the end zone for the TD.
- Peterman has Shorts, Lewis, and Andre Holmes in a trips formation with Streater to the opposite side. Peterman throws a nice pass where only Streater can catch it for the TD.
Punt Drill occupies all but the OL and DBs, who go work on positionals. Schmidt does all the punting (I didn't see Rehkow). The first PR is Tredavious White, followed by Walt Powell as Brandon Tate is still working on the sidelines. They are working specifically on blocking upfield for the returner, and the blocking is set up well. Powell didn't drop a punt; Tredavious let one punt go right through his arms and out, the ball bounding backwards. To his credit, Tre hustles back to scoop it up and take off with it, running it out. I love this kid. Mistakes are just lessons.
Work continues at both ends of the field, with the 3s to our left and the 1s and 2s to the right. Peterman is off a little with some throws, but his WRs aren't helping him for the most part. I'm watching both ends of the field at once, which doesn't work well. Here's what I catch:
- At the other end Tyrod throws a slant low to Daikiel Shorts, down low where only he can catch it, and Daikiel catches it and rolls for the completion. I was a proponent of Deonte Thompson a couple years ago (now with the Bears). Shorts is better than Deonte.
- Yates is successful at drawing the Defensive line offsides --didn't see who, but it better not be Hughes during the regular season.
- Ragland knifes in for a TFL.
- Tae Elston and Co. stand Cedric O'Neal up for no gain.
- Jake Metz, a DE, teams up with Lindsey MLB to stop Croom after his catch.
- Jerry Hughes stops O'Neal for a short gain.
- The entire Defense swarms to O'Neal on the next run right. They are contentious.
- Vallejo stops J-Will for a short gain.
- Tolbert makes back-to-back runs that were impressive. If we started the season today, Tolbert and J-Will would back up Shady.
- Brandon Reilly falls down on an in-out route.
- Watkins plucks Tyrod's errant throw on a bubble screen and takes off. The pass wasn't bad but the catch was notably good. Watkins successfully ran all sorts of screens at Clemson, you recall. This shows a better use of Watkins' demonstrated strengths.
- Streater executes a great screen with Yates putting the ball in perfect position. Peterman does the same on a screen to Powell, and J-Will catches a nice left bubble screen pass from Tyrod.
- More work on Left Bubble Screens with Banyard from Yates, O'Neal from Peterman, Watkins from Tyrod, Streater from Yates, and Powell from Peterman. They move to the other end of the field and run Right Bubble Screens, the same exact trio of QBs throwing to the same exact trio.
Observations:
- Andre Holmes stepped it up today, looking smoother on his catches. Part of this is the factor of who's throwing him the ball. If Streater gets Derek Carr and Tyrod Taylor to throw to him, he does better...but so would you or I.
- Zay Jones looks better and better, and gets plenty of work, evenly split between Tyrod and Yates. Nothing is being handed to the youngster.
- Catch of the Day was Croom's diving catch that he made look easy. He is among the lightest TEs in camp, but think of a TE-WR hybrid, and that's Croom. He's likely the 3-4th TE battling Logan Thomas.
- Peterman actually re-set a WR today, moving Powell in toward the OL. He then threw the opposite way to Dez Lewis for the TD. Later, Peterman's eye manipulation allowed him to hit a RB for a TD.
- McCoy took the day off. They're resting him so he can play into his late 30s.
- Swing passes to J-Will work wonders, especially when Humber looks inside too much and can't seal the edge due to lack of speed. Wonder if we'll draft a OLB with range next year.
- Tolbert got the same play as J-Will did, and he beat the OLB.
- Groy had one bad snap, but Yates' reflexes came through as he snatched it from going over his head. By then, Hughes had him for dinner, though.
- Jordan Johnson got some serious blocking and JJ followed them well, taking as much as the D ave him. Nice PS candidate.
- Tolbert got a lot of work with the ones today, and made the most of it with three 10+ runs. Want a fantasy steal? Tolbert.
- Tyrod was off on 3 successive passes one to Zay Jones (too high), Powell (led too far), and another WR (led too far).
- The Defense is stingy and is coalescing as a unit. They are stout on run and pass plays in the red zone. Banyard got stood up at the goal line and Rashad Ross couldn't get across on the ensuing play.
Thanks for the detailed report! Reading through the "camp tweets" thread, I get all ADD from the hashtags and links.
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Posted · Edited by rockpile
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Motel 6 actually cost $75. I just wanted a place where it was close to Danny's on Saturday to see friends that was clean, had indoor plumbing and a bed.
Yes, I have a car, but it is nice to have a very short drive FROM the pub on Saturday night and TO Hammer's in the early A.M.
If it was not the opening day tailgate, I would drive in from Rochester in the morning. Opening day is the only time I see many of my friends.