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Jauronimo

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  1. The irish didn't come here looking for handouts, and trying to get on disability, or social security as fast as they could. They came here because there was nothing for them back home and came to work.

    The Irish came looking for a sliver of the American dream. A potato in every pot and a sheep in every bed.

  2. This is a most stupid comparison....Sanchez did play very well in the playoffs in those two seasons, but has regressed since then as the Jets have lost quality players at RB (Thomas Jones), OL, and WRs. On the other hand Flacco has blossomed and has improved his game every year. And if you are not aware, the Jets in spite of Sanchez's struggles gave him a 40M+ contract with close to 20M+ guaranteed money.

    Its not a comparison, its a statement. Your argument for Flacco was stupid. Thus my response.

     

    When Joe Cool was going 1-4 down the stretch, you would have been hard pressed to find anyone subscribing to your continual improvement, pay him like Brady argument.

  3. I think we need to discuss violence. It is the base root of it all.

    Violence is not the root of the victim mentality. Pick up a copy of Life at the Bottom for more comprehensive discussion. Here's a quick description.

     

    the twentieth century's intellectuals have provided members of the underclass with a battery of rationalizations by which they can shift the blame for their misery away from their actions and attitudes and can unleash their hatred of everyone who challenges their outlook

     

    One of the major subjects that the work revolves around is on the various worldviews (Weltanschauung) of individual people, societies, and the impositions of society on those within it. Dalrymple states further that "...everyone has a Weltanschauung, a worldview, whether he knows it or not...Their ideas make themselves manifest even in the language they use."[15] The example stated is the use of passive speech by "those who refuse to accept responsibility for their acts". The type of language that the underclass uses, according to Dalrymple, professes their own ideas and ideology about the world.[15]

    Another major related theme that expands upon this trend is the philosophy of social determinism held by those Dalrymple interviewed, and how the welfare state and the socialist tenets within it help feed this mindset. However, Dalrymple never directly accuses socialism and the welfare state in his essays, instead focusing on the beliefs and reasons for why the patients and inmates take the destructive actions that they did. This is expressed with determinism in that they believe that their actions must be based on their childhoods or the failure of society in the past to help them.[16][17] Those patients that Dalrymple speaks with "seem surprised and tell him that he's the first person they've ever talked to who suggests that they can change their lives for the better," further emphasizing the mindset in which their society has placed them.[18]

    An important subset to this deterministic theme, related to the original worldview idea as well, is the lack of personal responsibility that those in the underclass accept for their own actions. An example of this, which is repeated numerous times throughout the collection, is the statement, "The knife went in", in reference to the words of one of Dalrymple's patients who was in jail for murder. This sort of speech makes a person's actions seem like they are something separate from the person themselves and that they have no control over it.[19]

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_at_the_Bottom:_The_Worldview_That_Makes_the_Underclass

  4. TYTT's example of the Irish immigrants to this country. The Irish were very much victims and have in turned victimised back when obtaining power and social status. SameOldBills is right in what they said.

     

    Take a look @ AD's insistence that the lack of corporal punishment is the root of this problem. That is like treating the disease with what's causing the disease. Violence begets violence.

    Except that SOB said nothing pertaining to your rambling attempt at a point, TYTT's example is demonstrative of a group of people who did not claim to be victims or cling to a victim mentality, you've missed AD's point entirely and I'm not interested in explaining it to you and no one is discussing violence. Once again, what the !@#$ are you talking about?

  5. Yes, I am being over the top about totally open borders. The present system is already heavily favored to accept educated immigrants... How is that working?

     

    Honestly, who is to really define the word victim? Doesn't a victim lack control over their situation in many circumstances. How can a power structure define who's a victim and who's not? Quite a vicious circle this is.

    Take a breath, MDP. Had you understood any part of the original post it would be clear that we're discussing those who identify themselves as victims. People who refuse to take ownership of their situation in life. Those look to blame events past, present or even imaginary for their lot in life.

     

    As for the bolded bull ****, what part of your nonsense do you find circular?

  6. First you have to let them take away the menial work that others are doing... EVEN refusing to do, that would undermine your "No Mexicans Need Apply Sign." THEN, you have to let them work their way up into positions of civil service by forming gov't and gov't services. Anyway, we can send them off Afghanistan if you want... They probably wouldn't mind all this. Let's give it a shot!

    What the hell are you talking about?

  7. We've never had a border with Ireland so I don't see the similarities. Now if you want to suggest that all Mexican immigrants go through Ellis Island that's another story.

    I thought he was clamoring for the conscription of all Mexican immigrants so that yankee mexicans can go fight confederate mexicans. Either way I'm preparing a "No Mexicans Need Apply" sign which will look quite nice in the lobby of my office.

  8. See Jeremy Lin. A gay man who could play in the NFL would be a huge (richard) slap in the face to the effeminate gay man stereotype. I'm sure a rainbow glowstick company would pay top dollar for him to endorse their products.

    Its heart warming to see the boy who cried racism get in a few jokes at the expense of gays.

  9. :wallbash: :wallbash: It doesn't matter. The guy has taken his team to AFC Championships back-to-back years and to the SB this year and has won many playoff games. He can WIN GAMES for the team. How does it matter whether he is same as Brady or Manning etc. He can make the CLUTCH throws and keep his team in the game for a full 60 minutes...And BTW, the teams that he beat on the way to the SB, Mannings Broncos and Brady's Patriots...

     

    You pay 20M if you want a Franchise QB.....Simple....Or you have to get the Top pick of the draft to get your choice...

    So did Mark Sanchez.

  10. if we could see what the points were for instead of unknown that would help IMO. i originally posted on here in favor of simon "laying down the law" as everything he said appears valid in regards to the simon vs devnull bout. my first 3 points are for unknown(i presently have 4), first being issued by simon so i guess i can't voice support for the po po that got me also. i think i called gailey a bad name if that is "pointable"

     

    to all the mods i love this site, but in order to obey the law we have to know what law was broken. my forth point is detailed why and although i don't neccesarily agree (i think something was lost in translation) I do understand what its for and am fine with that.

    You are highly confused.

  11. Sure Cordy Glenn is playing well, but what of the other side? Yes they have a need at QB, but why eat Spam when you can have steak later. Next years class gives you a better chance of getting that "franchise" QB we are looking for. If we continue to draft top talented players instead of reaching for a position of need (remember Losman) we will continue to spin our wheels.

    I'll answer your question with a question. Why eat steak later when you can get rack of lamb to go? And why eat rack of lamb in your car when you can have seared foie gras on brioche with cherry gastrique? If not now, when? If not a QB then who?

  12. I don't think aging super stars and first ballot hall of famers are looking to get in on the ground floor of a turnaround on a team entering its 13th year of rebuilding, with a rookie head coach, offensive coordinator and no QB. Typically, people with Randy's resume and only a year or two left try to sign with super bowl contenders, like the 49ers or the Patriots.

  13. that's kind of a false choice: should i smoke or be obese? how about neither?

     

    at any rate, i quit about 10 years ago not knowing but suspecting (and hoping for) this data. maybe it's more meaningful for ex smokers to know that they have essentially reverted to the norm regarding life expectancy. but i think if i still smoked, this news would be inspiring.

    Are you really suggesting that 10 years ago the perils of smoking weren't documented?

  14. I think we oversimplify when we just assume laziness. The problem is cultural. If it was just a matter of a few lazy people sucking off the system it wouldn't be that big a deal. It's the destructive cycle of behavior that grows out of these so-called charitable projects.

     

    I know in Richmond the last place you want to go, & the worst place to bring up a child, are in the housing projects. There are no easy fixes to this either, but if we're going to move the needle it should be towards being more, not less, restrictive about who is given charity, design the programs so their natural progression is toward self-sufficiency, and (except for the truly helpless) make it less convenient to be on the dole. Otherwise we're perpetuating the ugliest & most inhumane aspects of our country in the name of compassion.

    Incentives. Its all about incentives. Even total degenerates with no education can recognize a good deal when they see one. If you want your kid to go mow the lawn and you offer him $10 once he finishes the job or $8 regardless of the outcome, what do you think hes going to do? Taking the easy $8 doesn't mean that the child is inherently lazy or bent on scamming the system. It means the system sucks.

     

    i think it can be improved in several ways. my preference is to increase the minimum wage. yours, presumably, is to decrease hand outs. how bout both? but paying people less than they can reasonably live on without any health insurance after working a full work week is clearly part of the problem, in my view. changing minimum wage laws would very likely change the distribution of wealth in the country. there would still be very wealthy individuals, however. is that socialism? i don't think so but others will very likely disagree.

     

    Increasing minimum wage would be nice, maybe, but only for those that continue to earn minimum wage, maybe. See price floor, cause and effects. This is 101 level ****.

     

    Since when is minimum wage not livable? Any young, single adult with a little financial sense should be able to get by on min wage. Sure you can't raise a family on min wage, but since when is it your right to raise a family regardless of means?

  15. Same answer I give every year: staying home and watching the game without company. I have a good friend who has a big party every year, and dozens of people show up and bring food and they have pools and squares and if you're one of those people who doesn't care about football as a game, it's a great time. But about five or six years ago, I couldn't take it any more.

     

    I like the game. I want to watch every play without someone trying to talk to me about a movie they saw last week or showing me pictures of their kid. And worst of all, the only time everyone shuts the hell up is when the commercials are on.

     

    We stay home. Eat what we want. Pause and rewind when we want. And enjoy the game without having to bother with, y'know, other people.

    Another chilling tale of suburban ennui.

     

    JW

  16. If people were using the public assistance they way it should be used you wouldn't see this problem. Generations of people who live in housing projects are obviously not using the system the way it was intended. But that is a facet of the people living there and not the system it self. The target of the system is to set up a temporary safety net for people in need. Not create an underclass caste of people who have been on public assistance for generations. Those that do live that way have no one to blame but themselves.

    The system is all a matter of incentives. No system is perfect, but if the incentives are totally out of proportion as they appear in some of our social programs then you don't blame the abuser, you blame those who implemented it. For many of the record number of Americans collecting disability or who've been collecting unemployment for over a year, their choices are either work 40 hrs a week for $300 or sit at home and collect $250 to $300. When the incentives are aligned in such a way, the outcome is obvious.

  17. Its going to be hard to erase memories of the massive dumps he took all over the Oakland Raider's organization. That said, doesn't hurt to bring someone in who is looking for a second chance and seems driven. Whether its sincere or just a house of cards can be determined during the workout.

    This isn't his second chance. He tried to come back a while ago. His life coach quit on him.

     

    http://sports.yahoo....r_chance_041411

  18. I'm sorry for starting this tread as you guys have shown me the light. I'm glad Russ Brandon is our CEO and he is clearly the "greatest hire/promotion since Bill Polian." (Yes, someone actually formulated that thought) We are finally on the right path and Russ, Jeffrey Littman and Ralph will take us there as their track record indicates they have in the past.

    I am a fan of the Bills, I want the Bills to succeed. I am not a fan of losing and I have no faith in the decision makers within this organization.

    Clearly, if anyone disagrees with your irrational response it must mean that they love Russ Brandon more than life itself. Anything short of enthusiastic agreement is tacit admission that they think hes the best thing to happen to football since Vince Lombardi. You owe it to all Bills fans to refute the argument that wasn't made and steer them on to the righteous path. Take this moment to showcase your tenuous grasp of sarcasm, and wield it like a mighty brick!

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