[Apple Chinese manufacturer exposed for poor conditions]

All I asked for was a number by number discussion since he made it clear that China had a good deal going, whether or not he was joking is beside the point. My point is that if capitalism unchecked is the ultimate goal of corporations and draws support, where will the abuses end? I NEVER said all or nothing, otherwise I would not have taken the time to break it down line by line as to how China attracts business. They do it in Africa, where African leaders will take the money over the welfare of its people. We're not Africa, and so China is trying to dominate the slave labor market- shocker. We're complicit in this venture, and so I'm just pointing out what happens when we allow it to happen, no matter the corporation, it is an affront to the senses.

 

I'm not begging for insults, for to debate a topic, sticking to the subject matter, is somthing I just don't see and don't expect to last very long. We'll see.

1. What abuses? How Foxconn employees, all 1.2 million of them, are being denied the glitz and glamour of subsistence farming?

2. How can you reasonably compare the Chinese labor force to a continent? Which country in Africa, in your estimation, is attracting business by providing a massive, educated and literate workforce ideal for mass production of technology?

3. What do government abuses in the continent of Africa have to do with anything?

4. Slave labor? Foxconn employees earn about $300 a month compared to the average manufacturing monthly haul of about $200 in China.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/business/global/08wages.html

5. We are totally complicit in this thing called the global economy. China is leveraging their competitive advantage to become a manufacturing power. I know you think this is evil, so how do you propose China makes the leap from industrial revolution to self-righteous service economy overnight?

[Are they black or African-American?]

I'm going to play this one real safe and refer to them as "Americans who happen to be darker than me, not that there's anything wrong with that" until I've had a chance to talk this over with PPP's sensitivity trainer, Dave_in_Elma.

[Apple Chinese manufacturer exposed for poor conditions]

Now that we have established it is more than just Apple, what about the points I mentioned? Just because it is rampant industry-wide does not make it right.

What makes these practices wrong? Sure, those conditions sound crappy to you and I, but how does Foxconn stack up against every other manufacturer in China making products that you and I don't give a s#$% about? 1.2 million people willfully work there for a reason, and despite the suicides, dorm living and inhumance conditions you describe, Foxconn is still a popular place to work.

 

 

Please explain how the Chinese labor force will be better off by removing their competitive advantage.

[Taxes, W2s, EICs, and other Ecosystemic Abnormalities]

While my effective tax rate is -5%, it is my contention that the rich clearly aren't paying their share.

[At least this guy is inventive]

The reverse Woody Allen?

[liberal litmus test]

What the hell are you talking about? This is so stupid it's hard to really reply to it. I just said that we should keep chruch and state separate.

 

And by the way, my God is named Ulthar, he lives in the lake behind my house and pisses all over Indian wolves when he's mad.

There's no lake behind your house you f#$%ing liar! Keep your flying lake monster out of my wallet!

[True Journalism]

When is the vigil?

[liberal litmus test]

This is the way I've always looked at this statement. I think the idea he was really trying to get across was more along the lines of it doesn't matter who the government is. Just live your life according to Gods law. Keep your political views separate.

 

 

 

Not you, nor anyone else in the world has a mandate from God to tell us how God feels about taxes.

Your God or my God?

 

My God is a God of vengeance. My God is an indian that turns into a wolf when he's mad, and he's paid less taxes than Willie Nelson. I'd appreciate it if you and Obama keep your God out of my wallet.

[Odd superbowl coincidence]

Yes sir. The road to the Super Bowl runs through Buffalo.

[liberal litmus test]

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/02/news/economy/obama_tax_rich_jesus/index.htm?hpt=hp_c1

 

Looks like liberals now use the Bible to tackle tax reform. Time to rethink that litmus test, among other things.

[liberal litmus test]

Where did you get white?

Right where he got the rest of it, straight out of his ass.

[Radio Host Loses It With Female GOP Candidate]

It's never okay to be stupid. Interviewing someone and telling them to "shut up" is stupid.

Except for when it makes you millions of dollars. MAybe he's gunning for his own TV show "The Matthews Factor."

[Buffalo: 3rd worst for opportunities for minorities]

In response to USA Today's findings, Elma resident and business owner Dave said "3rd Worst? Doesn't that depend on which side you're looking at it from?"

[An example as to why politics suck]

Like posting on debt reduction is any less pathetic or more worthy of discussion, as if both parties are interested in anything other than half measures that protect their special interest voting blocs. Or posting about who will win the presidency as if you have any real choice in the matter.

 

I hate to spoil things for you but Obama wins this walking away. He has the money, propaganda machine, news media, and popular culture on his side. Mitt has as much as a chance of winning the presidency as did Bob Dole against Clinton. So, I say why not talk about honey, apples and wife pimping.

Thanks for getting us back on topic and discussing the issues. What exactly about Ann Romney's fruit consumption leads you to believe that Obama wins in a landslide?

[Hang this teacher NOW 8 on LEAVE]

Disgusting beyond belief. Thankfully the children don't understand what happened and how they were taken advantage of by this creep. At least thats what the CNN article suggested. I certainly hope they don't know, and further hope they never do.

[An example as to why politics suck]

I will make this my last post of the topic. I'll go on record that I think Obama has been one of the more effective presidents we've had in a while. He has acted on a good number of his campaign promises. (Not all but more than half.) We are out of Iraq, we are scaling back Afghanistan, we have a health care bill, he reduced the tax rate for middle class earners like me, GM and Chrysler are doing better, we have foiled several terrorist attacks and killed Osama bin Laden and several other leaders. If that's your definition of "suck" then I'll take more, please. And all this done while the GOP made it their stated purpose to make him a one-term president by any means necessary.

 

Is he perfect? No. But he's going to get re-elected.

 

PTR

Sounds good when you put it like that. Problem is, the healthcare bill that he promised and "made good on" was poorly conceived and even more poorly executed, and Obama had as much to do with thwarting terrorism and taking out Bin Laden as he did with last night's snowfall. Unless, of course, you're giving Barry credit for not cancelling efforts which had begun before he took office.

 

If you'd like to talk about "unprecedented" characteristics of Obama's term in office, look no further than the slowest recovery from recession in US history. Your beloved healthcare bill is at the top of the list as to why this recovery has been "jobless". Who wants to hire when you have no idea what it will cost you in a year or two?

[An example as to why politics suck]

The same time Obama was. And the issue of birth only became an issue when people started questioning Obama's birthplace. I'll give you the rest of the week to find some more egregious examples of birther campaigns against other presidential candidates. Good luck.

 

PTR

Well, its rather hard to cast suspicion on the birthplace of most US presidents, given that they were clearly born in the United States of US born parents.

[The occupy Wall Street movement spreads]

How is this thread 52 pages? Either they define themselves as being for/against something, or fade into oblivion. What is the big deal- protests happen. They evoke change. They disappear. this one has created a bunch of complainers about complainers......

And now the OWS movement has officially spawned complainers about complainers about complainers. Adam, taking it to the next level.

[100 Years Ago]

Somewhere out there Booster is outraged at this callous mockery of death.

[The occupy Wall Street movement spreads]

Well...yeah, but it's not like I eat 'em raw...

I would hope not. Children are lousy with parasites. But if you're a risk taker, a little child sashimi, or lunch as its known in Leningrad, is prized in the Baltic region as a delicacy for its subtle flavors.

[This cheerleader will rip your head off...]

Ruptured her Achilles? Her and Shawne Merriman.

 

PTR

Are you suggesting she should play OLB for the Bills? Or are you insinuating that it would constitute an unknown and thereby unacceptable level of risk to sign someone with her history of injury to the Buffalo Jills cheerleading squad?

[3 DUI's in 5 days. Has too be a record]

No an amateur is someone who is that drunk and gets popped 10 times. A pro gets that hammered and no one is the wiser.

Bill Brasky is a ten foot tall man beast who showers in vodka and wears a live rattlesnake as a condom. He's also the best damn trader on the floor.

[Would ya?]

Clearly, you've never had a young, naive South American.

How many times do I have to tell you that Ricky Martin doesn't count? Puerto Rico is not part of South America.

[God Bless America]

Feel good romp of the summer. I'm down.

[Would ya?]

A 23 year old self-declared communist who's never known such a system. How novel? I'm sure she can tell me all about how "its such a good idea, in theory." I will never get tired of hearing some college hippy trying to defend that statement, so yeah, I'm in for a nasty case of the Peoples Crabs.