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Jauronimo

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  1. heres the thing - your arguing against something im not saying. Im not advocating the government taking his guns away in any way shape or form. Im not holding this up as an example of the need for gun control.

     

    what i am saying is that if that house didnt have 8 guns laying around in it ranging from rifles to handguns to automatics.... she wouldnt have caught nine bullets in her. would she have been stabbed or beaten to death? very possibly. maybe even probably. could he have walked away with her something short of dead? very possibly. that doesnt mean that i want to take everyones guns away because of one brain damaged hot head that may or may not have been impaired and keeps guns laying around his house. i get that hes an individual case, and anyone that uses a single case as an end all for the argument is silly.

     

    im not saying take peoples guns away, im saying its a pointless argument to say she was dead no matter what. He mightve stormed out, he mightve beaten her for 30 seconds and walked away, he might have stabbed her 32 times. we just dont know. having a gun in the situation may have dramatically changed the dynamic. 9 shots is extreme but depending on what he used it may have been just seconds. he may have broken down completely after 2 and lost his mind and wanted to make sure she wasnt suffering. who the hell knows besides mom, and i have yet to see her statement on the incident. to act like you know she would be dead no matter what... it just isnt a fair argument.

     

    and no, that isnt advocating gun control.

    Then what is your point? That guns and tense situations can yield tragic results? Or that bullets rarely if ever propel themselves into human beings in the absence of guns?

  2. It is situation of opportunity. The gun was there... He used it. Again, opportunity... If he had to hunt around for a tool to do the job, maybe it would have gave him time to decompress from the emotional situation he was in. Things snowballed, when the impulse got the best of him, he used the most efficient instrument @ his disposal. IMO, the murder just took him down the road to finishing himself off.

     

    Take a look back in the history of posters on these very forums... How many murders and suicides have there been with just the small number of posters in this community. I am not blaming the weapons... We got problems in this society...

    Problems which, strangely enough, seem awfully similar to the problems in, well, every other society. I'm guessing the problem lies with the human factor.

  3. But in his head (and this is just an assumption), he had his built-in alibi with the history of house robberies he claimed,

     

    There's something very off about this story. The fact that pets from the neighborhood seem to go missing on his property is off-putting as well.

    Casting doubt on a year's worth of documented robberies while declaring neighbors suspicions regarding pet disappearance as fact? You're getting pretty carried away.

     

    Take what you wrote a step further. Hes been patiently working on his robbery alibi for months in order to somehow lure two teens into his house to shoot them?

     

    http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22081144/little-falls-authorities-find-precription-drugs-other-items

  4. To name a few:

     

    Sir, you're making a scene.

     

    The test results are positive.

     

    It happens to lots of guys.

     

    Congratulations, its a girl!

     

    Last call!

     

    Bieber Fever

     

    By law you are not allowed within 500 feet....

     

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    Can't tell you how sick I am of hearing those.

  5. I read one sentence and thought wow, Ducky has an accomplishment. I read two and sort of suspected something wasn't kosher. After three, I knew it wasn't his work.

    If one-thousand Duck Dodgers pounding away on one-thousand type writers can eventually reproduce Shakespeare, then certainly even a monkey could put 6 complete sentences together.

  6. Did you read it? It wasn't just sitting down and catching his breath. He waited 24 hours to do anything about it. I might have sat down until I could breathe but I doubt I would have resumed the Thanksgiving Day holiday and called my neighbor about a lawyer 24 hours later. I understand the concern re: shock and, of course, I'm not sure how I would have reacted in total at that moment. I'm fairly sure, however, that I would have called 911 asap/relatively soon and probably wouldn't have moved a body around and then resumed my prior activities. Just an opinion on a message board....but I'm fairly confident. The manner in which he terminated the intruders combined with his behavior afterwards raises some suspicion about the guy's baseline mental health. His rationale for not calling the cops is he didn't want to bother them.....not that he 'didn't know what to do' or 'that he was scared.' His resumption of 'the day' and not wanting to bother police defies the extreme of the situation he was just in.

     

    It may have all been a stress reaction but this type of behavior is not consistent with most home invasions/shootings I've ever read/heard about. I.e. Ones in which you hear the tape of the screaming person telling the operator...."I just shot someone...help...they came in and I shot them...." etc.

     

    ...and how do you know what I've done. :lol:

     

    EDIT: Yes you read it. I just looked at your prior posts. You seem to state the behavior was 'odd' as well....even considering the circumstances. I think i missed your sarcasm....

    Poorly worded on my part. Should have phrased my response as if you were criticizing his choice of furniture to sit on. Without voice inflection to sell it, wording needs to be more precise. Damn internet.

  7. 100%

     

    Quite frankly, I found the 'horrible tragedy' thread on the main board to be pretty lame too. Way too many people afraid to call a spade a spade these days. This guy was a worthless subhuman; I hope he's rotting in hell.

    Save for DaveInElma, everyone is afraid and you should be too. The proper nomenclature is Monday-American.

  8. This guy is really going to have to push the narrative of an elderly man, living in fear after a number of prior break ins and robberies. For his sake, I hope thats the case. Having your home broken into can certainly take away anyones sense of security and safety. I'm guessing after the last break-in this guy drew a line in the sand.

  9. He didn't sleep on it - it all happened at the same time. The only delay was that he didn't call the police (or more aptly, ask his neighbor to call the police for some reason) until the next day. (not wanting to bother the police on Thanksgiving sounds... odd... though).

    Thats what I meant by sleeping on it.

  10. Self defense doesn't give you the right to sleep on it (that right is reserved for the Kennedys) and then administer a coup de grace when you notice that one of your would be burglars is still breathing. Maybe the guy was just totally shocked causing him to act the way he did, but his actions after shooting the dude, including moving the body, finishing off the girl, and his rationale for waiting as long as he did to call the authorities all strike me as awfully strange.

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