Jump to content

ThurmasThoman

Community Member
  • Posts

    1,019
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by ThurmasThoman

  1. Right. 20 games into his career? Sounds like they're hoping he's absorbed enough instruction that some things can go on "auto pilot" now, and he can play looser. He needs to know how long the leash is. Define a "blow out"
  2. How about if they finish with 7 wins or less, I will agree to the mods banning my IP address and user name, forever. And if they finish with 8 wins or more, you do the same. You said that you could honestly see them going 6-10 this year, so why not?
  3. I will bet you 10,000$ right now, that the Bills are not finishing 1-6 or worse. 10,000. Cash.
  4. There has to be a process though, and a drawn out one to get them to where they need to be. A company as big as the Bills employs hundreds of people, that all need to be pulling in unison towards a common goal. The results are measured in seasons, not games. Our first season with this regime was the most succseful in 20 years. The next season, we started a rookie QB and shed salaries to get out of cap hell. Finished stronger than we started and entered this year with optimism. This year, they started better than they have in 30 years. They lost to a talented team on the road by a field goal. The next two games are winnable, and Buf will be favored. Even splitting them has us at 7-4, needing to finish 2-3 down the stretch to (likely) make the playoffs. Again, probably sitting better after 11 games than we have in a quarter century. Look around the league, watch other games. We're right there with every team that isn't New England (although they got rolled up on last week) as good enough to win, enough weaknesses to lose. That's how the league is designed, by the way.
  5. Bills could win any of the games left on their schedule, including at New England. I love this team, they're young, hungry, and could have won today. Haus missed some long field goals, but we're talking a few yards difference between winning and losing. Hey, if Chubb doesn't cough up the rock vs New England, the Browns could have beaten them too. Talented team on both offense and defense, tough game on the road, Vegas saw us as 3 point dogs and what do ya know, 3 point loss. At the moment, the Colts are losing to the Dolphins. Early line is Buf -7.5 at Miami next week. In my opinion, any team could beat any team in the AFC this year, hell, the NFC too. No dominant teams means any given Sunday... Chubb absolutely didn't kill us today. A few big runs but not consistently gashing us like before. The D came to play, they did great. Josh played well, a few over throws and that fumble was almost killer. Eh, IDK, that was a good game for me. Not trying to be the eternal optimist, but I saw that 9-7 Giants team in 08 catch lightening in a bottle and run the table in the playoffs with a defense built to rush 4 and shut down wideouts. They would get gashed on occasion too, and had a QB who could do a little bit more, but avoided the big mistakes like Josh does. Bills should be favored in the next two, which means they have the inside path to 8-3. Dal-Bal-NE decides the season, likely, and 2/3 of those will be nationally televised. Depending on how Thanksgiving goes, maybe the Baltimore game gets flexed. Hey man, it's the NFL, the truest thing Jauron ever said was that it's hard to win in this league. It is. Bills are winning at a 2:1 ratio. Losses are gonna happen. Even if they go 8-8, they've shown me more than enough to bring back the entire front office, coaching staff, and QB for the next 2 years, but if Pegula came out and said tonight he wanted to keep them for 3 I'd celebrate. I believe in what they're doing, I believe in what I'm seeing. They look like any other GOOD NFL team--ya win some ya lose some. Enjoy the ride.
  6. I just don't understand how fans aren't EXCITED about it though! Prime time games are just objectively better. Better announcers, better cameras, better pregame show, it's under the lights. Through all of the bad years, from Jauron to Gailey through Rex, I would get excited for Primetime games. Now, being older with a family, they're new opportunities to have friends over, everyone brings their kids, food. IDK man... if you can't get excited about a SATURDAY NIGHT week 16 game, under the lights, against our biggest rival, for a chance to possibly win the division or at the very least qualify for the playoffs? I honestly think at that point you should do some self reflecting and ask yourself "is this hobby a net positive, or a net negative in my life." Because at that point, what are you choosing to watch other men play a sport for? Your anxiety/negative perceptions of the event have so taken hold that it is a chore--you don't want to watch the product in it's ideal form, because the fear you have that it's going to not be fun. So, for instance, let's say you joined a club of Roller Coaster enthusiasts. And all you did was ride roller coasters. And there were 100 other people in the club, and THEY FUKKING LOVE ROLLER COASTERS. What's the point of the Roller Coaster club, you may be asking? Well, that's the thing--the only point is to have fun while riding roller coasters. Everyone in the club knows that riding roller coasters is never going to make them money, it's just a hobby they really, really enjoy. Some of them maybe flirted with the idea of roller coaster design in college, a few even have relatives that designed some a long time ago. Some people in the club are so into it, they analyze design videos that young roller coaster engineers post on youtube, and grade the likelihood that those future roller coasters will be fun to ride, and talk about it pretentiously like "well, I currently have a low amusement park rating on the potential of that ride, a lot of the metrics look off like speed coming out of a turn." Now... if you were the member of that Roller Coaster Enthusiast club that didn't want to go to Six Flags and ride the funnest roller coaster in the country, that they FINALLY scored tickets to after 30 years of trying, because you were worried it wasn't going to be fun. And you tried to talk the other roller coaster riders out of wanting to go and have fun, and your argument was "it's too high, it's too fast, it's scary, we'll never be able to go on it, it's at night so there will be a bunch of pretty girls standing there watching us and they'll be playing music really loud on the midway, and, and, and, those rides are stupid anyways the roller coaster clubs probably just going to cancel before then anyways." Like, if that was you, at what point can the other members of the roller coaster enthusiast club ban you from the twocartrack.com forums and tell you to find a hobby you enjoy?
  7. Looking at last year they had 2 games on each Saturday: week 15 and 16. The "early" games were each at 4:30, east coast time, and the late (primetime) game at 8:20. I have read that they are flexing 3 games into Saturday this year, but I wonder if they will. There are only 2 matchups that matter: Buf/NE, and LA/SF. A few thoughts: 1. if they truly do flex 3 games, one of them is going to be a stinker, with at best only 1 team in the game still competing for a playoff spot. 2. New England is a huge draw for the league, maybe their marque team. I would bet it's more likely they get the 8 slot as they could potentially be playing for the division crown. 3. Are people here really upset with this? Possibly competing for the division title at best, a wildcard birth at worst, on a freaking Saturday night, under the lights, in December? Between the fans that are nitpicking the 6-2 start and thinking we're awful, and now people saying they would prefer not to play these nationally televised games, I'm beginning to wonder why, exactly, you guys are Bills fans...do you get any joy whatsoever from this HOBBY? I'm already thinking of the friends I'll have over, the food we'll cook, the drinks we'll serve, and the great time me and my family will have with our friends watching a great Bills game. But... I guess it's more "realistic" to just admit this team is bad and hope they get ignored by the national broadcasters and slotted into the Sunday 1pm slot so they can go 7-9 with dignity. That's a much better outcome to hope for. It fills my heart with warmth and joy to picture my holidays without the Bills having the prospects of a great season, as opposed to them being a championship contender on a run which I could enjoy with friends and family, thanks for the realism guys.
  8. Eric Harris is really taking Rivers to school, shooting down the Chargers playoffs hopes in the process.
  9. I hope so. If you (anyone) haven't read the book "Take Your Eye Off the Ball", I highly recommend it. One part that stuck with me is the explanation for the offseason of an NFL QB, and how it differs from the other players on the roster. The long and short of it is, as soon as the season ends, the QB is working with the coach to pick the playbook for the coming year, which then dictates personnel decisions in both FA and the draft, as well as the progression of install through the minicamps/training camps. The QB is the "coach" on the field, essentially, in that they are an extension of the philosophy of the man designing the offense, which, by extension, is an extension of the man designing the team--which becomes cyclical in nature. Hey--think of the Patriots. It's not simply Brady or Belichick, it's Brady AND Belichick. And it's why they're able to change out every other piece and keep rolling. How does this apply to Josh? Well, to me, he seems smarter and more mature than Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, and honestly, Pat Mahomes. He strikes me as being somewhat witty, which requires a fairly high IQ, ala Manning, Brady, Brees, Rogers. The fact that he seems to still be improving in his craft, with good coaching, tells me he just might be cut out for this. Don't get me wrong, if brains were all that mattered, Fitz would be going on his 15th ring, right? Well, athletic ability matters too, as well as surrounding casts, and luck. Fitz can't make all the throws, but it seems like Josh can. Overall, I'm sold on him. I would be comfortable rolling with him for the next decade and a half like Eli Manning, and letting Beane and McDermott steer this ship. With continuity, it feels like the pieces are there where we might get lucky once, twice, or maybe 3 times in that stretch and win a title(s). And honestly, he's a good kid, so he's easy to root for, and I'd rather root for a good guy and win 1 title in 15 years, then continuously convince myself every offseason that the new draft pick or FA signing behind center is the answer and we're just 3 years away.
  10. Awesome post. #1 will be a question that we're asking for awhile, I think. I'm happy to say that #2 seems to be going in a good direction--his accuracy has improved, he can run with the best of them. But we're gonna need him to learn to avoid hits, ball security when running, and refind his touch with the deep balls. He's seemingly made better choices with the ball since Tennessee, no more ridiculous picks. #3 seems to be the most important point in the article! 45 starts! What are we up to? 18? so we got a long way to go with this yet--also, perhaps an indicator that it's worth holding on to Dabol for another season or 2? Or at least, promoting from within to maintain continuity with guys who know the system and can keep running it?
  11. Four divisions, each with 8 teams. The Pacific Division Seahawks, Raiders, 49ers, Rams, Cardinals, Broncos, Chiefs, Bengals (not a great fit) The Gulf Bay Division Cowboys, Texans, Dolphins, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Saints, Falcons, Titans (not a great fit) The Great Lakes Division Vikings, Packers, Bears, Lions, Bills, Steelers, Browns, Colts (not a great fit) The Atlantic Division Patriots, Jets, Giants, Ravens, Redskins, Eagles, London, Panthers Scheduling: All scheduling based on the previous years standings: you play half of your division twice (top four finishers play a home and away vs each other, bottom four finishers play a home and away vs each other) for 6 games; you play the other half of your division 1 time (bottom finisher plays top 4 teams once) for 4 games; interdivisionally, all first and second place finishers play one another, all 3rd and 4th place finishers play one another, all 5th and 6th place finishers play one another, all 7th and 8th place finishers play one another--for an additional 6 games. Playoffs: No separation of conferences, as there are no conferences. 12 teams make the playoffs. Each division winner gets a bye. 8 wild card teams are seeded based on record, then re-seeded for the second round. Reseeding again for the 3rd round of the playoffs, and the Super Bowl should then theoretically feature the two best teams.
  12. I mean, I think so. Yes. Personally, I lack the necessary metrics on comparable receivers; an understanding of how Josh Gordon performed in each play he was on the field this season with regards to the designed play call and his route tree; the understanding of the Buffalo Bills playbook that they intend to use for the remainder of the season and playoffs and how he would fit into that and impact other players; his perception around the league in coaching circles and locker rooms that may or may not have an impact on bringing him into an organization with a second year quarterback; and any handshake/backroom deals that may exist between the clubs making these moves to have an informed opinion strong enough to use exclamation points and go to bed angry over Buf not signing this player. But--for the sake of relativity--there are also many, many posters on this board who go to bed angry that the Bills passed on Mahomes and Watson, and wake up forgetting that the Bills have a better record than the Chiefs or the Texans. Then they log on to here--a board for the Buffalo Bills! A team they presumably like!--and argue with people about why the Bills, despite having the better record, are worse than those 2 other teams, despite them having a worse record! I remember when being a fan of a team meant LIKING them, and, sometimes, even, defending them against other fans in a playful manner. But, the internet has a way of sucking the joy out of all facets of life, so.. back to the doom and gloom. Didn't mean to interrupt. The 5-2 Bills totally should have signed this decorated receiver, who I've heard on MANY message boards COULD be good, if he plays, because we all know his name, and it's best (like the Bills record) to ignore actual results and go with the reality we see in our mind. Because consensus and results don't matter--feelings do. Is there anyone in particular that's really out of line in here that we can tar and feather and demean? I'm up for some name calling.
  13. Agree with you on the bolded, but re-read your own words. Good teams take chances because they're good... Good teams aren't good because they take chances. Important distinction. Win first, then you have the equity to cut Antonio Brown after a week. Sign Antonio Brown and count on him to make you good, and he becomes Antonio Brown and destroys your locker room from within while you wait for him to make you good. Buffalo is a season removed from 6-10 with a rookie quarterback, and has a very tenuous grasp on the foundations of a winning program. The soufflé is in the oven and it's rising baby, but every week more fans either want to eat it right now, or throw it away and start over. And the fukking ANGER they show over it is alarming--its just eggs and sugar big boy, and when it's done, we're having dessert. Sit back and enjoy.
  14. Not going to read through this thread--enjoying a nice glass (or 3) of red on a Friday night before an early bedtime so I can do some leaf blowing and wood splitting tomorrow with my boy--but I'm dying to know: How many posters tonight are spiking their blood pressure because "my name recognition of this player outweighs Buffalo's scouting department and the Super Bowl champion's decision makers...we're doomed!" Judging by the fact this is page 13, I'm guessing more than a handful?
  15. To build an organization that employs hundreds of people, united in achieving a single goal, that resets itself every February--is a herculean task. Over the past quarter century, the Patriots are the only team that has been able to consistently do it--across all 4 major North American sports. So it is 1/120, or 8/10ths of 1% likely to happen. The next tier down: Green Bay, Pit, NYG, NO... they win, but have losing seasons interspersed, with plenty of playoff heartbreak. I would imagine we're shooting for that. So far, this administration has 1 trip to the playoffs, a 6-10 year, and a 5-2 start to this year. They have said that their path forward is to build through the draft, resign their own guys, and not make poor decisions in free agency. Despite this obvious progress, what I have learned this fall is that as bad as Bills fans were when the team was bad, they are absolutely miserable and toxic on here as the product begins to improve. I am beginning to loathe this board--a place I've come to for years and years to stay up to date on the team, has become, or is becoming, a place so filled with asinine hate and piss poor takes that it's putting me in a bad mood to read it. Honestly, and I hate saying this because it's a liberal echo chamber, but the Bills sub reddit is a 1000x better because people just upvote funny memes and talk about drinking and how in love with Josh Allen they are. Here? People have made it a goddamn badge of honor to be a contrarian--and hey, when we were losing, that was cool, because guys would be like "19-0 on the way baby". Or, "if we finish 7-0 we can still snag a wild card." Now? Now its "We're 5-2, but Dabol should officially be on notice and this team is NOT good." "Mahomes and Watson are constant reminders that Beane should be fired--despite the fact that both QBs have worse records than Allen this year." "Is there such a thing as a BAD win?" etc. etc. etc. It's trying to piss into the ocean against a strong wind to say that I'm going to leave here, but goddamn. Before 6 hours ago, we all hated the Rex era. But now because McD said they made bad moves in the past I'm on page 13 of people talking about how McD needs to mind his business and be respectful of those amazing football architects. Not internet tough guy talk, honest sports bar let's share a table and watch this game talk, but do people actually operate like this in real life? Do people on here watch these games in a fun environment, with other fans, and say this crazy *****? Because I watch the games (out of state) with a group of guys and we're having a really enjoyable fall, figuring the Bills will play a playoff game or 2, and the tide is turning. And McD pointing out the obvious that the previous regimes... ummm... didn't win football games? isn't ground breaking? Like, we had the longest drought in North America for not making the post season. Objectively, the team sucked. Hardcore. And they were frustrating as ***** to watch. Now we can't defend the coach that ended that drought, and has the team playing winning football with a young QB (who looks a hell of a lot better than the QBs taken ahead of him that draft, btw) when he says that they didn't make moves because the previous regimes dicked the team over by making terrible decisions. I mean, Christ, do you guys REMEMBER the Sammy Watkins trade?
  16. There's a lot to "unpack" here, but as a curtesy reminder: the New England Patriots of the past 20 years are not just one of the best NFL teams of all time, nor even one of the best SPORTS teams of all times--they are, in many ways, one of the best run companies in the world during that time. They set a goal of excellence and consistently achieve it, they maximize profit, and their investments generally pay off. Some (but only some) of the reason for Buffalo's failures over the past 20 years can be directly attributed to the success of the Patriots. We are in their division, which basically sets us back 2 losses a year. Most teams figure 9-7 gets them a wildcard. For Buf, writing off 2 losses automatically, means they need to go 9-5 the rest of the way. Daunting. Hell, our record in any other division in the AFC this year alone would have us competing for a first round bye... as it is, a wild card is the ceiling. Now, as a fan, that sucks, but as a player... I mean... what do you expect him to say. I've left jobs I've hated for much better jobs--and that was without millions in a raise. So, all in all, good for him, tough to refute what he says, not much to debate.
  17. My fix for every league's draft. Are you sitting down? Are your breasts secure? Are you ready for this? Ok... if you say so. I'm warning you though, once you read it, it's going to be so obviously correct and elegant that you're going to be mad the leagues don't do it. At the moment a team is mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, they are moved to a new "standings" board, with a record of 0-0. This new standings is called the "Draft Standings", and just like the "Playoff Standings", teams shoot to be in first place. You want to win games if you're on the "Draft Standings" board, just like you want to win games if you're on the "Playoff Standings" board. Teams that are BAD--like Miami this year--will be eliminated from playoff contention early. So they may start 0-9, and have 7 games to play on the "Draft Standings" board. A good team that JUST misses the playoffs in week 17 will have zero games to play on the "Draft Standings" board. A slightly better team may have 1 game. But the team eliminated with 7 games to go should theoretically be bad enough that they won't win that much... and a team that is eliminated with 1 week to go is theoretically that much better that they might win the last week of the season. Tie breakers on the "Draft Standings" board will revert to the normal standings, so out of 2 teams with 1 "Draft Standings" win, one with a 4-12 overall record, and one with a 9-7 overall record, the team with the BETTER normal standings record would win the tiebreaker and get the higher pick. This incentivizes winning all year long--so if your team is eliminated, you're still hoping they win every Sunday so you can move up the draft board.
  18. A few thoughts about this as it pertains to the Bills: There were a number of posters on here and other Bills message board calling for a full on tank in 2017 after Watkins was traded, in an attempt to get the number 1 pick. What you're seeing in Miami right now is a great example of why, in my opinion, that's a terrible strategy for an organization. What Buffalo did instead--in terms of establishing a winning "culture", playing guys who earned their spots, and fighting to a 9-7 record--built a foundation for the youth makeover that came next. When Josh Allen was drafted, he wasn't walking into an 0-16 dumpster fire, he was coming into a program that felt it could even sit him for a year and let him learn. He ended up seeing the field earlier than was intended (perhaps), but their was already a culture of accountability and expected success. Now, in his second year, you have already seen this team win 4 games that, by all rights, any teams that we have fielded in the last 20 years would have lost. You can say the competition is bad, but each of those teams has a loss that is because of us... We went through the same process here, in terms of getting rid of "guys that didn't fit the system", but if it was McBeane running the show down there, you have to wonder if they would have a lot of these guys that they've already moved on the field, with Tanny having them at 3-2 in the thick of the wildcard race.
  19. Stats tell part of the story. The titans had the lead for the entire game, aside from the seconds when Dyson was running down the sideline to score the ball. The Bills ripped off some chunks of yards on 1 drive in particular to start the second half that "skew" the stats--overall, the Titans controlled the field position better all day. They came out, moved the ball, executed their offense and put 12 on the board going into the half. Yes, it was a slug fest, but they were able to hold Buffalo out of the end zone for the entire first half, and most of the second half after giving up the points coming out of halftime. Even if the Bills defense was elite, the Titans were better, just like last weekends Bills/Pats game. The Titans were a 13-3 Super Bowl team at the start of a half decade of great football. The Bills were an 11-5 wildcard team, at the tail end of a runner up dynasty, that was dismantled that winter and spent the next 2 decades wandering the desert of sub-.500 ineptitude. Viewed holistically, the Titans were the team on the rise, the Bills the team on the decline. They met in Nashville that afternoon, and the Titans did more to win, and won. I no longer feel like that was a season that "got away".
  20. Awesome write up, seems like you and I view this game through the same lens. Agreed with the following 17 years of football being worse--I think that game holds a special place in a dark part of a lot of Bills fans hearts, specifically those younger than 40 right now. Guys that were maybe a little too young to appreciate the Super Bowl years, but old enough to live through the drought. The fact of the matter is, 2 decades on the outside of the playoffs looking in is 2 decades of missed opportunity for heartbreak. Every fanbase has their "what if" moments--having lived in New England I can tell you that those guys view 18-1 as a worse heartbreak than what the Sox put them through. The difference with the Bills historic run of ineptitude is that we simply didn't have a bigger stage to lay an egg on. If Buffalo had made the playoffs 10 times during those 2 decades, there would have likely been 10 other heart breaking moments of defeat: some blowouts, some last second losses. In any playoff game, one team wins, one team loses. The Bills just play so few of them that as fan base, our last "good" team has taken on an almost mythical quality of being THE best team in the NFL that year, when the reality is they were the 5th best team in the conference and simply lost a wild card game on the road due to poor special teams coverage. Here's hoping that today we get a win and keep marching towards this years tournament. It would be nice to start making some new scars, and giving ourselves some new scenarios to have friendly disagreements about.
  21. After 20 years, I can honestly say I have no idea if it was forward or not. As a Bills fan, I can see it moving forward based on where the body positions of the players were when it was thrown and caught. As an objective observer, I can see it moving laterally based on where the ball was released and caught. I think the simplest way to phrase it is, let's say you meet the creator himself and ask him if it was a forward pass: he would say "yes, the ball moved forward an inch, but I would have made Dyson catch a 90 yard hail marry on the next play anyways and I had a famine to mitigate at 4pm that day so I had to move on, make yourself at home, Ralph's at the bar."
  22. Watching the condensed replay of the contest, as the NFL network showed it, yes it seemed to me like the Titans played that much better. Ironically, the closest game I can relate it to is the game last weekend against the Patriots. In that case, the Bills were playing a much better team, both Ds showed up, and the Pats won with a flukey special teams play. The Bills showed some life on some long runs, and the QB never really got it going. The difference between those games is, the Titans had the "momentum" all day long--they drove the ball on several occassions, but ultimately turned it over. Also, in the Pats game last weekend, Allen killed any chances of winning with mistakes, whereas Rob Johnson killed any chances of winning just by lining up behind center. He never aggressively attempted to get the ball downfield, and the offense was simply stifled. Throw in the obscene amount of penalties and the Bills really got their butts kicked. Statistics have never interested me. Antoine had a high ypc, sure, but he also had one long run and a bunch of other pedestrian carries that did nothing. Maybe the Bills would have gotten that call at home, but the only way that would have been a home game would be if they had been a 13-3 team, or even 14-2. Lots of woulda/coulda/shouldas from this one, and I really don't want to sit here on a soap box and say that people are wrong for feeling whatever way about it, because 12 hours ago I was in the same boat, ha!
  23. They definitely earned the win, which is again, what I realized last night. As a kid, I viewed them as a "new" franchise, and it was a fluke for them to even be in the playoffs. What I realized last night is: that was a good, legitimate football team, that went on to have great success, that beat an aging, dysfunctional Bills team that played very poorly that day. I held on to the anger of being "ripped off" on that call, and "robbed of a Super Bowl" for 20 years, and never really watched or had any interest in re-living that moment, as it was pretty much my most painful sports memory of all time. It helped to see it with fresh eyes, and an extra 20 years of football knowledge that I've accumulated. If the pass was a forward pass, you're talking mere inches of ball movement across 30 yards in the air--tbh, I don't know if it would even be overturned today. 100 officiating crews wouldn't throw a flag in the moment, and 100 wouldn't overturn it based on that video evidence. I think it's easy to say they won on a fluke, but go back and watch the Bills comeback win over the Oilers: how many noncalls did Buffalo benefit from that day? Our historic (and in some ways, maybe franchise high water mark) could just as easily be discredited by Titans fans saying we only got back into it because the refs didn't want to make calls against the home team that was rolling. Really, that's the essence of my post: watching the game as a whole--not just analyzing inches of ball movement, no *****, on a lateral pass--puts that play into context. The Bills got worked that day by more than the refs. The entire Titans organization beat them, from start to finish.
  24. Ehhh, IDK if it was a bad call, tbh. It has always appeared to me that the ball is thrown further ahead of the thrower, and caught further behind the receiver, making it perfectly lateral. Using the 20 yard marker as a gauge, the ball is thrown directly on that line, regardless of body position. It's a matter of inches, with 1 camera angel and standard definition replay. Maybe it was slightly forward, but nothing that could be overturned in the moment. I'm saying that it was an appropriate culmination of events from that day, in that the Titans outplayed Buffalo on special teams, offense and defense. And just like when we beat them 7 years earlier in a ridiculous comeback that maybe never should have happened, they got one over on us. I know not every fan will see it that way, but the entire point of this thread was that after watching the entirety of the game last night, I changed my perspective on it, seeing how thoroughly they were outclassed that day. Like it or not: the Titans deserved to win and even though for a few minutes it looked like Buffalo had stolen victory, it wasn't meant to be.
×
×
  • Create New...