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I ignore everything he says. He likes to bring people down, but not even with good logic.

I really liked what Taylor did yesterday. But here's my concern about having EJ be #2. How is he going to improve without game time? He's not a rookie anymore, he's ready to play and he won't learn from watching Tyrod like he would from watching Peyton or Rodgers. Second I feel like Tyrod is already close to his ceiling, while EJ looks like he's ready to take the step to the next level which after yesterday looks like a level above Taylor. By making EJ #2 I feel like we are stopping him from growing again. How much better is Taylor than EJ that we should stop the guy with the higher ceiling from playing and growing? Like Simon said in a previous thread, is a couple bumps in the road at the beginning worth a long term answer?

I'm hearing now that EJ's improvement is due to "coaching". How are we so sure that's the case? What exactly about the current "coaching" is better than the previous "coaching". I understand that it makes sense on the surface, but let's dig into it a bit. Why are we so sure it's the coaching.

He's had heart issues right? Maybe his doctors limit the amount of snaps he can play per game?

I understand why they would pick Tyrod over EJ, but I just feel like that drive we saw from Taylor yesterday is his ceiling. He's pretty much maxed out. And I can't get over his height. EJ showed us a glimpse of his ceiling and it blows Tyrod out of the water. EJ can be Cam Newton with good intangibles minus some running skills.

I watched the replay of the Clay throw a couple times. What a major league arm EJ has. Not that many QBs in the league can make that throw the way he did. And it was accurate. Hmmmmm

Nobody's torn. They know exactly who it is. These quotes from Wawrow and Carucci tell us they have the same source using them as shills for the Colts game.

Pretty sure the bad EJ throw was a tip. Anybody have a replay or gif of it?

If that's what the media is saying it's spin. I wouldn't even listen to it.

Super easy to get a stat line like his in the NFL. Really, really, really easy.

One thing about Tyrod is that all his throws are just nice. Smooth, accurate, and with touch. He just seems really dependable with his short and intermediate throws. That drive to start the 3rd quarter was incredible. It really tells you how good EJ played for him to even still be in the conversation. Nobody who watched that game walked away thinking Cassel is starting over Taylor.

They are small people in general. Petty, small people.

It's Tyrod guys, unless Rex's gut convinces him otherwise and he goes with Manuel. It's been Tyrod for a while now. Don't let these clowns rile you up. If Carucci is saying it too, I'm guessing their "sources" in the front office are misdirecting for the Colts game.

He really pulled that one out of his a**.

Tyrod still doesn't have a TD pass in preseason. Just saying. He looked GREAT in the drive to start the 3rd quarter, but you can't just give it to him after what EJ did. He's got IT and you never bench IT.

I think that's what it is. "Conspiracy" makes it sound like it's unlikely, but Rex himself said that's what they were going to do. It's been Tyrod for weeks now.

It was Tyrod since before training camp even started. It was Tyrod before Rex and Roman were even hired here. The plan was already in place. Roman was going where Rex was going and they were trading for Tyrod. Now a guy who everybody counted out steps up, overcomes all obstacles and needless negativity, and KILLS it with everything on the line. But for nothing. Lame, lame, lame. I haven't seen those kinds of intangibles from Tyrod yet.

That's what happens when you speak too soon. Patience is a virtue.

I've already heard the excuses in the "EJ will start" thread. "It's only one preseason game. You don't make a decision based on one game."

It should be noted that it took 2-3 days after the Browns game that they announce Manuel as the starter, whereas Rex immediately announced Taylor as the starter after the Panthers game. There was clearly some discussion about it.

You give your reasons in paragraph 1, and then in paragraph 2 you point out why your reasons aren't solid. So your argument is that he should have had one more good drive with 3rd stringers in order to be a "decent starting quarterback". Yet one sentence earlier explained why it was extremely difficult to have a good drive. I just find your qualifications to be odd. That's my concern. The coaching staff, and Rex Ryan in particular, is playing favorites with Tyrod Taylor going back to before training camp started. Your comments stating pretty much that there is nothing on earth EJ can do to win the starting job really concerns me and makes me cautious about "trusting the front office on this one".

You see, you're like the 4th guy who said this today. If EJ kills it tomorrow, it's not just one preseason game. He will have shown NFL QB ability in three straight preseason games and a scrimmage. That would include clutch performances when the game and his career was on the line, AND the ability to step up and seize the opportunity. That should be acknowledged instead of marginalized.

If posters are saying they have sources that feel this way, I think this says a lot about the people in charge.

This keeps bugging me. When was the last NFL franchise that, in the midst of a QB competition, chose to go with the QB that did not perform the best in the preseason games?

They're just going through the different stages of grief.