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give me, give me, give me...that Monday after the super bowl off to worship the sweet sweet integration that was MLK

Knock Joe Biden all you want I'm not his white knight but anyone that remotely thinks he belongs anywhere near Sarah Palin in terms of uselessness and stupidity (from the view point of any party) is ... themselves...a complete and utter dumb ass...and as to that I truly mean if you legitimately feel that Sarah Palin > Joe Biden you have absolutely no idea what is going on...

While some may not agree....as I see it the victim complex is strong within virtually every sect of our society and has always been...that's not to say that today or ever has it been the quality that advances us...but in the grand scheme we always seem to advance...

Why is it on Sunday? Is there some tv knowledge that says people won't watch on sat? Also labillz everyone know fantasy is over by now... 3rd...MLK's legacy would only expand if he gave us this gift

Let us celebrate his life the day after the superbowl

They're about to destroy the girls in cookie sales

imo that hurts intelligent moderates. Like this story: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/democrats-tea-party-unite-to-defeat-mitch-mcconnell-86787.html Dem groups funding a Tea Party candidate to argue McConnell compromises too much and is too willing to govern with his fellow senators....it's crazy. McConnell is quite conservative and has stood his ground his fair share. It's stupid to fuel the anger and opposition to all things cooperative and all instances of moving to the middle. This hurts everybody imo....

He's given a lot to this country...he can give a little more

I hate this line of logic...they need to spend resources on good people w/ points of view that add to society...there are only two parties...

Agreed on dumbasses who schedule this stuff. Wait all through the holiday season and then the college football championship is on a Monday during a work week. Superbowl...nothing else going on and they stick on a Sunday night. Sick of this crap. That said, I would gladly swap and celebrate one of the Birthday's or even Labor day on the day following the super bowl.

Reminds me of Carville saying Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between...hehe.

"The thing is that we've actually seen in practice, you can say idealy lets have a plan to reduced the deficit 5 years out, 10 years out, while at teh same time doing stimulus for the economy, Washington doesn't work that way. If you spend a lot of your time saying the debt and the deficit are the big problem, the message that what we need to do now is promote jobs gets lost. And in fact we've spent the last 2.5 years focused entirely about the long term deficits and entitlements and doing nothing for employment, that balance has got to shift." (Krugman in the above video) That quote basically sums it up

Well while after watching the entire interview less than an hour ago, just not what I saw. No doubt you can easily rail against him for being totally soft on the urgency of those problems and probability of not avoiding them, but it's a little disingenuous to say that he flat wouldn't do anything since he says in the interview if we were dealing with some all powerful King that could just do things with a snap of a finger he would. In any event, as for me, I do believe we need to do something. I also believe Krugman is right when he says right now if you are comparing the two...growth now is more important.

Once again, to repeat myself, it's about the priorities/emphasis and what we should be most concerned with (not purely concerned with) today. Why is it if you had to make a to do list you would put addressing an estimated 15 year cost challenge ahead of growth today when we know we have to pick up growth today and address healthcare costs of the future? The basic truth is the entire video is there for anyone to watch...they can see the entire interview and actually listen to what he says which btw is heavily edited in the quote you just posted...

Except it's mere projection to suggest that it's do this forever in his opinoin w/ long term shifts in policy contrary to this be damned. He says himself in that interview right there...he would turn into a fiscal hawk once jobs hit their stride and interest rates go up. And as for what happened to the economy...I think he might disagree with you as to why it tanked and has since had only modest bounce back....

Look if you want to fixate on it that's fine. His point was simple...that fixating on locking in cuts we think we'll need in 15 years is less important than applying brain power to growth now...and he say at some point that if we were run by philosopher kings it would be fantastic to do both now but given that we can't seem to the one of the two to pick is obvious...

He's basically just expressing a similar feeling as I did here; http://forums.twobil...of-the-sameimo/ In saying that being totally focusing on budget and long term fiscal issues and proceeding form crisis/showdown to crisis/showdown over that we aren't getting anything done regarding more urgent issues such as ways to stimulate the economy now. And at least a few people, including those who often disagree with me, managed to muster a "I don't disagree with you" in that topic...I mean it's easy for people (certainly conservatives) to pile on Krugman but it might be interesting to give it some thought with an open mind as to why he says what he says...

Hehe, I mean I don't know what to tell you I just watched the video. I heard what he was saying throughout the interview. He doesn't imply that we should simply ignore it, his point is that the priority should be jobs not locking into benefit cuts that take place in the future. And in his opinion, once again just stating his opinion since I just watched it, is that the climate change analogy is terrible b/c "every year we don't do something we put 35 billion tons of carbon dioxide into the air, what exactly are doing this year that will make it harder for us to deal with healthcare costs in 2025?" He just saying that saying that we have to lock in healthcare changes now that we think we will have to make in 15 years is not comparable urgency....and in fact he would put job simulating measures ahead of locking in healthcare changes for 15 years from now in terms of urgency...

Topic prompted me to watch...video here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/#50613650 Seems his basic point is that we're too focused the possible need to cut benefits in in 2025 that all our energy if focused on creating a plan to cut benefits in 2025 now...when he would rather have more political energy devoted towards doubling down on what he thinks distinguished us from Britain during the crisis which is stimulus.

I wonder what/if this will do anything to the Canadian borders or if they'll just beef up the Mexican border..

Seeing as we know that more people in Virginia voted for Obama than Romney, I think it's fair to say that most people would reject a system that would have awarded Romney the lions share of electoral votes. It's all moot anyway bot the Governor and the next in line GOP candidate reject it...

well I've been criticizing both and mainly the Virginia proposal...the other states come in to illustrate that this idea follows the election and circulates after the national GOP mee3t up naming certain blue states as targets...I mean I may never convince you but it's pretty clear it isn't about state culture but rather national GOP strategy infiltrating existing state structures.

That doesn't take away the reason why the article is bad. It admits at the top that it will would help the GOP in several states, all the states that it controls but lost in Presidential race, in other words the ones there is talk about doing this in. Then later on the he does this whole "it may or may not help depending on the state"...well we know the states, and it would, there is not talk in Texas of doing this etc... This comment is directed at my criticism toward the article, my friend Tasker...

Official details tomorrow apparently but from the article there seems to be nothing surprising. More border security and a verification plan in exchange for temporary legal status while those here wait for their turn w/ out line skipping and meet certain standards like background checks for taxes, criminal behavior, learn english etc...apparently a little more streamlined for the kids and certain provisions made for seasonal workers blah blah... http://www.politico....deal-86793.html

Well let's look at the fact that this comes right after the 2012 election where Obama won 51% of the vote, and under this plan produced by a Republican faction in the state legislature he would have been crushed in electoral votes. So if you were to ask "them"...them being the people of Virginia who voted for President if they would choose to represent themselves this way politically do you think they would say yes...that actually produces the outcome that the majority of us wanted? Does this more likely resemble the wishes of the voting public of Virginia or the wishes of a faction in power in the legislature? It's hardly an attack on state culture to do this simple math.... This I can agree with. As per the popular vote v. electoral college...independent of party loyalty there are good arguments for both. As to why the article is stupid, it's b/c it fails to recognize the GOP idea as reported is to do this a select few states, no talk of implement nation wide reform. So this whole "may or may not" stuff is just not relevant.