OldTimer1960
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19 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
Can’t open it but here’s my list in order
Bruce
OJ
Thurman
Kelly
Shaw
Reed
Allen
Joe D
Tasker
Sestak
Bennett
Butler
Lofton
Gilchrist
Hull
Jerry Butler was great - it’s a shame he got hurt early in his career.
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6 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:
Beane called Samuel WR 4 so don’t expect much at all. Don’t shoot the messenger.Samuel is not a star, I concede that, but he has been significantly better than his 2024 production and I think he will return to his usual production if he is healthy. I think Kincaid will be better too if healthy - as Beane has suggested he needs to get a little stronger as well. Coleman is the wild card. I wasn’t a fan of his selection, but he had started showing flashes before he got hurt. Can he get back to that and improve from there? I don’t know, but that is what they are banking on.
I do think that the WR group is not a strength of the team and could use help - especially speed, but I have a hard time criticizing their first 3 picks and could not identify a WR that was available at any of those picks that they should have taken over who they did.
If Royals, Horton or Thornton pan out, people will be upset, but if they never do anything we won’t hear a peep. Once round 1 is over, a lot of picks are crap shoots. Go back and look at receivers taken after the early 2nd and then remember how they were all going to be great. Of course there are some good ones but I don’t think it’s a high percentage that turned out. Should probably carve out a separate category for slot receivers as they are easier to find later.
Should they have taken Royals or Horton over Walker in round 4? I think that’s a debate that could reasonably be had, but if Walker plays back to pre-back injury 2023 his upside is higher than those receivers- of course only my opinion.
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1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said:
He's on now and I have never seen/heard Brandon Beane so salty on an interview. He is prickly about the WR/draft conversation. Interesting interaction and not the usual Beane interview.
I haven’t had a chance to listen yet, but I think:
1. The Bills WR group is probably bottom 1/3 of the league on paper. However, we can hope for improvement from Coleman year 2 and I think Samuel will contribute more if healthy.
2. The WR class was not great.
3. It’s a little over-the-top with the “WR Train” stuff.
i do wish they had taken a WR in the 4th, but I understand taking a shot on the giant Deone Walker.
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Gunner - thanks for all that you and a few others who dive into so much game tape do. It’s great fun to discuss the draft each year, especially with such knowledgeable posters as you.
Looking forward to training camp next!
Gunner - thanks for all that you and a few others who dive into so much game tape do. It’s great fun to discuss the draft each year, especially with such knowledgeable posters as you.
Looking forward to training camp next!
Gunner - thanks for all that you and a few others who dive into so much game tape do. It’s great fun to discuss the draft each year, especially with such knowledgeable posters as you.
Looking forward to training camp next!
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On 4/26/2025 at 12:48 PM, MarlinTheMagician said:
I probably would have preferred West, but the upside here is undeniable. Everything says he needs conditioning, wears down. Get him out of Kentucky, on an NFL diet and in an NFL weight room and he seems to have unlimited potential.
I would suspect that last year’s conditioning was hindered by the back injury. Anyone remember Spencer Brown with his back injury? Brown seems to have overcome that and has become a good RT. Hopefully, Walker can follow a similar path.
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On 4/26/2025 at 12:35 PM, GolfandBills said:
2023 he was really good. Played through injuries this year so looks like a bit of a gamble here that could pay off in round 4.
At post-draft event, Brandon Beane said they had a round 1 grade on his 2023 games. Felt that back held him back in 2024. Not hard to believe that someone that big with a back injury might struggle playing football in the SEC. Hopefully, they get the injury healed up and we get the 2023 Deone Walker.
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Was lucky enough to get a ticket to the Bills’ post draft event at the field house today. Asst GM Brian Gaines was describing how they put their board together and mentioned that for each round they ask the scouts who their favorite guy graded for that round is. He said that Jordan Hancock was named that for 5th round by 4 different scouts. They see him being able to play S, nickel and special teams.
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Boom! Offense!😀
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1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said:
Don’t disagree but outside of Hairston, everyone is defensive depth. Does that really improve our D much? Will Hairston as a rookie really be a significant upgrade over Rasul? For all the resources dedicated on the DL, McDermott loves his rotation so it’s difficult for anyone to really dominate. If an injury happens at LB, our backups outside of Williams are a significant liability and the tandem of Rapp and Bishop leave a lot to be desired.
Really hope I’m wrong and the Bills truly crushed this draft but at this point it’s very much wait and see and hoping vs. expecting.
I think that TJ Sanders will really upgrade the interior pass rush with Oliver. He likely will come in on obvious passing downs for this year, but those are money downs. Deone Walker looked pretty bad last year, but was really good in 2023 - all conference first team in the SEC. Hopefully, 2024 downturn was due to the back injury (hopefully healed). If they get the 2023 Walker it will be a big win, but it could be a whiff as well. Boom or bust guy, I think.
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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:
Its called Cover 6 and yes I know about it. It was mostly a joke to you. The guys they drafted with the exception of Hairston probably aren't going to be on the field this year but hopefully next year. Still their depth is going to be impeccable compared to last year in the secondary. It was clear when Benford went down they were sunk last year.
They desperately needed a talent upgrade at corner. Hairston should play a lot and Strong will compete for a backup spot with Dane Jackson and Jamarcus Ingram. I think Dane might not make the roster.
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Just now, Taro Nimbus said:
Colman was a rookie and played well before getting hurt. And Samuel is a viable veteran, if he was actually used properly he would have been better. I really don’t understand all the Colman hate.
Samuel was fighting turf toe for much of the season- that’s tough for a WR.
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4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:
To not even try and bring in competition at offense is nuts to me.
Its not like the WR core is even really considered to be top 16
Beane said multiple times that he didn’t see a need at WR. Now, I think many of us disagree, but once past the 4th there was nothing at WR to take. I think that other than Hancock they have nabbed guys that can make the team in Strong (CB) and Hawes (blocking TE). I’m not sure that any of the WRs late would make the team.
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A 3rd CB? I was hoping for Strong when they took the Ohio State Hancock guy. Maybe Hancock is to compete at S?
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1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:
Pick's been in for 10 minutes COME ON
Must have some fan announcing it coming up.
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Pickings are mighty slim at this point. It would be nice if they can flip this 6th 177 for a 2026 5th
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Ok the run blocking TE is picked.
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Bills may not have been interested - had their pick in very quickly
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Hmm - must be a good special teamer (or hope so).
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3 picks for the Bills coming up soon. I’d be thrilled with CB Dorian Strong or Zy Alexander & LB Chris Paul & WR Horton.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
Time for another board update:
1. Isaiah Bond^, WR, Texas
2. Cam Williams, OT, Texas
3. Zy Alexander, CB, LSU
4. Tory Horton, WR, Colorado State
5. Cobee Bryant, CB, Kansas
6. Quinn Ewers, QB, Texas
7. Chris 'Pooh' Paul, LB, Ole Miss
8. Dorian Strong, CB, Virginia Tech
9. Miles Frazier, IOL, LSU
10. Smael Mondon Jnr, LB, Georgia
I miscounted earlier when I said 27 left... that was 27 plus my top 10... so was actually 37 left.... but it is now 24 all in on my board.
Gotta be Zy Alexander and Pooh Paul to keep the all-SEC picks streak in tact.
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Just now, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:
He weighed 196 lbs at the combine.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tory-horton/3200484f-5271-4724-279c-0b867b4b01d4
I think he meant pick 170 not that Horton weighs 170.
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3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Beane is reactionary. When he loses Cook next year,then he will spend a 3rd maybe.
If they took a RB this year, especially this late, would they beat out Davis or Ty Johnson? Easy to plug a rookie into meaningful snaps in 2026 if they move Cook after this season.
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If they stay put in late 5, I think it could be CB Zy Alexander and LB Chris Paul.
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I wonder if Tory Horton’s knee is still a concern.
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Name a random Bills player and one thing you remember about them
in The Stadium Wall
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Leif Larson - incredible strength testing numbers, was sure he would be a good DT - alas he couldn’t move well enough.