OldTimer1960
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26 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I'm obviously not happy they didn't add to the WR room. I thought it was a mistake in the offseason and I think it's still a mistake now. The AFC is wide open but I don't trust this offense to make critical plays in critical moments at the end of games.
But oh well, they'll play the games and we'll see if they were right to stand pat. I'm not gonna spend the rest of the week whining about it. They made their bet and they have to be right.
Question is who could they get and fit under the cap and what would they have to give up? Chris Olave was likely not really available unless they sent a couple of 1s back and I think he would have helped, but wasn’t going to guarantee a SB spot.
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28 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:
2 firsts was an overpay… yikes, Colts.
Likely two later picks in the first unless Daniel Jones self-destructs.
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1 hour ago, Deadstroke said:
I’ve followed these boards for a long time but hardly ever post. However, at this time I just feel a push to give my opinion on a controversial subject – who plays on the D, and can it develop into a championship unit. I feel that we potentially have a very strong defense. If all goes well (a major hope on my part) I believe that we could have a defense, coupled with a strong offense, to carry us a long way in the playoffs.
This is what I’d like to see within, more or less, the following 3 or 4 weeks.
Defensive ends
Starters …Joey Bosa – Greg Rousseau; Backups...A. J. Epenesa – Michael Hoecht
Defensive tackles
Starters…Ed Oliver – Deone Walker; Backups...DaQuan Jones – Larry Ogunjobi
Linebackers
Starters...Terrel Bernard –Matt Milano; Backups...Dorian Wiiliams – Shaq Thompson
Slot
Starter…Tyron Johnson – Backup - Cam Lewis
Corners
Starters…Maxwell Hairston – Christian Benford…Backups...Tre White - Cam Lewis
Safeties
Starters…Cole Bishop – Jordan Hancock… Backups...Jordan Poyer – Taylor Rapp
Problem is a bunch of them are injured and can’t stay healthy when they recover. I love Milano, but he is sadly breaking down, Hairston may eventually be good but he isn’t healthy and has missed basically everything to this point. Dorian Williams seems to have difficulty staying healthy too. Without Hairston, CB is bleak and without Milano and Williams LB is a problem too. We also don’t know how Ogunjobi and Hecht will play after missing so much time and without the benefit of PEDS.
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Looking at this roster - only the guys who are healthy and not suspended - I don’t think that it is playoff caliber other than Allen. The defense is just decimated, especially the CB and LB spot. No easy fix there this season. If they choose to go into the trade market, CB has to be a priority.
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Defense is trash.
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On 9/20/2025 at 2:12 PM, LABILLBACKER said:
It's supposed to start from the DL first. If they pressure, it allows the zone coverage to collapse on the receivers. But if there is no pass rush, the dbs are naked on an island. It's the Dlines responsibility to do their job first. Very rarely do you get coverage sacks.
I still think it’s a balance - coverage benefits from pass rush by not having to cover as long and therefore can cover more tightly with less worries about deep shots that take longer to develop. On the flip side good coverage helps the pass rush by giving them time to beat the OL.
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2 hours ago, Mango said:
1. Anybody in the front 7 not named Bosa or Oliver.
2. Safety
3. Anybody else in the front 7 not named Bosa or Oliver.
3 games into the season, 3 rookie DL and two FA DL on suspension - I think things will improve as the rookies gain some experience and Hoecht and Ogunjobi return.
Pass rush needs a little help in the form of pass coverage. Playing soft zone due to secondary personnel doesn’t help the rush at all.
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Obviously good for Bills if Likely doesn’t play, but the Bills’ secondary is a disaster area. Under the best of circumstances, the secondary will have to cheat to help vs the run. Now, with who-knows-Whois playing CB and the unsettled S position, it looks like only chance to win is to score a TD on every possession.
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Get ready for another year of opponents converting every 3rd down. Is Dorian Stroong the “next man up”?
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I voted Outside CB given Hairston's injury. An ACL and a full year of no football for a rookie may have killed his career before it even began. I know that players come back from ACLs, but they are frequently not the same after coming back and Hairston has exactly ZERO NFL experience to fall back on if he loses some speed/quickness.
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If Hairston has sustained a serious injury, get ready for the Swiss cheese secondary again. I don’t expect Tre White to remain healthy all season given injuries and age and, welp what are we looking at then?
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Leif Larson - incredible strength testing numbers, was sure he would be a good DT - alas he couldn’t move well enough.
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19 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
Can’t open it but here’s my list in order
Bruce
OJ
Thurman
Kelly
Shaw
Reed
Allen
Joe D
Tasker
Sestak
Bennett
Butler
Lofton
Gilchrist
Hull
Jerry Butler was great - it’s a shame he got hurt early in his career.
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6 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:
Beane called Samuel WR 4 so don’t expect much at all. Don’t shoot the messenger.Samuel is not a star, I concede that, but he has been significantly better than his 2024 production and I think he will return to his usual production if he is healthy. I think Kincaid will be better too if healthy - as Beane has suggested he needs to get a little stronger as well. Coleman is the wild card. I wasn’t a fan of his selection, but he had started showing flashes before he got hurt. Can he get back to that and improve from there? I don’t know, but that is what they are banking on.
I do think that the WR group is not a strength of the team and could use help - especially speed, but I have a hard time criticizing their first 3 picks and could not identify a WR that was available at any of those picks that they should have taken over who they did.
If Royals, Horton or Thornton pan out, people will be upset, but if they never do anything we won’t hear a peep. Once round 1 is over, a lot of picks are crap shoots. Go back and look at receivers taken after the early 2nd and then remember how they were all going to be great. Of course there are some good ones but I don’t think it’s a high percentage that turned out. Should probably carve out a separate category for slot receivers as they are easier to find later.
Should they have taken Royals or Horton over Walker in round 4? I think that’s a debate that could reasonably be had, but if Walker plays back to pre-back injury 2023 his upside is higher than those receivers- of course only my opinion.
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1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said:
He's on now and I have never seen/heard Brandon Beane so salty on an interview. He is prickly about the WR/draft conversation. Interesting interaction and not the usual Beane interview.
I haven’t had a chance to listen yet, but I think:
1. The Bills WR group is probably bottom 1/3 of the league on paper. However, we can hope for improvement from Coleman year 2 and I think Samuel will contribute more if healthy.
2. The WR class was not great.
3. It’s a little over-the-top with the “WR Train” stuff.
i do wish they had taken a WR in the 4th, but I understand taking a shot on the giant Deone Walker.
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Gunner - thanks for all that you and a few others who dive into so much game tape do. It’s great fun to discuss the draft each year, especially with such knowledgeable posters as you.
Looking forward to training camp next!
Gunner - thanks for all that you and a few others who dive into so much game tape do. It’s great fun to discuss the draft each year, especially with such knowledgeable posters as you.
Looking forward to training camp next!
Gunner - thanks for all that you and a few others who dive into so much game tape do. It’s great fun to discuss the draft each year, especially with such knowledgeable posters as you.
Looking forward to training camp next!
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On 4/26/2025 at 12:48 PM, MarlinTheMagician said:
I probably would have preferred West, but the upside here is undeniable. Everything says he needs conditioning, wears down. Get him out of Kentucky, on an NFL diet and in an NFL weight room and he seems to have unlimited potential.
I would suspect that last year’s conditioning was hindered by the back injury. Anyone remember Spencer Brown with his back injury? Brown seems to have overcome that and has become a good RT. Hopefully, Walker can follow a similar path.
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On 4/26/2025 at 12:35 PM, GolfandBills said:
2023 he was really good. Played through injuries this year so looks like a bit of a gamble here that could pay off in round 4.
At post-draft event, Brandon Beane said they had a round 1 grade on his 2023 games. Felt that back held him back in 2024. Not hard to believe that someone that big with a back injury might struggle playing football in the SEC. Hopefully, they get the injury healed up and we get the 2023 Deone Walker.
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Was lucky enough to get a ticket to the Bills’ post draft event at the field house today. Asst GM Brian Gaines was describing how they put their board together and mentioned that for each round they ask the scouts who their favorite guy graded for that round is. He said that Jordan Hancock was named that for 5th round by 4 different scouts. They see him being able to play S, nickel and special teams.
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Boom! Offense!😀
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1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said:
Don’t disagree but outside of Hairston, everyone is defensive depth. Does that really improve our D much? Will Hairston as a rookie really be a significant upgrade over Rasul? For all the resources dedicated on the DL, McDermott loves his rotation so it’s difficult for anyone to really dominate. If an injury happens at LB, our backups outside of Williams are a significant liability and the tandem of Rapp and Bishop leave a lot to be desired.
Really hope I’m wrong and the Bills truly crushed this draft but at this point it’s very much wait and see and hoping vs. expecting.
I think that TJ Sanders will really upgrade the interior pass rush with Oliver. He likely will come in on obvious passing downs for this year, but those are money downs. Deone Walker looked pretty bad last year, but was really good in 2023 - all conference first team in the SEC. Hopefully, 2024 downturn was due to the back injury (hopefully healed). If they get the 2023 Walker it will be a big win, but it could be a whiff as well. Boom or bust guy, I think.
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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:
Its called Cover 6 and yes I know about it. It was mostly a joke to you. The guys they drafted with the exception of Hairston probably aren't going to be on the field this year but hopefully next year. Still their depth is going to be impeccable compared to last year in the secondary. It was clear when Benford went down they were sunk last year.
They desperately needed a talent upgrade at corner. Hairston should play a lot and Strong will compete for a backup spot with Dane Jackson and Jamarcus Ingram. I think Dane might not make the roster.
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Just now, Taro Nimbus said:
Colman was a rookie and played well before getting hurt. And Samuel is a viable veteran, if he was actually used properly he would have been better. I really don’t understand all the Colman hate.
Samuel was fighting turf toe for much of the season- that’s tough for a WR.
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4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:
To not even try and bring in competition at offense is nuts to me.
Its not like the WR core is even really considered to be top 16
Beane said multiple times that he didn’t see a need at WR. Now, I think many of us disagree, but once past the 4th there was nothing at WR to take. I think that other than Hancock they have nabbed guys that can make the team in Strong (CB) and Hawes (blocking TE). I’m not sure that any of the WRs late would make the team.
Who in the hell is conditioning these players?
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There is probably a bit of truth to this, but I don’t think you can point to Oliver, Sanders, Milano or Rapp’s injuries and conclude that if only they were bigger they would not have gotten hurt. Yes, all undersized, but freak injuries happen.