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10 hours ago, WideNine said:
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
Authoritarian:
So what do authoritarians in the US believe? In surveys I found that American authoritarians, compared with non-authoritarians, are more likely to agree that our country should be governed by a strong leader who doesn’t have to bother with Congress or elections. They are more likely to support limiting the freedom of the press and agree that the media is the enemy of the people rather than a valuable independent institution. They are also more likely to think the president should have the power to limit the voice and vote of opposition parties, while believing that those who disagree with them are a threat to our country—a concerning trend as we head to the polls this year.
Let me be clear: Our fellow Americans, including our authoritarian neighbors, are not the enemy. The enemies of democracy are self-interested men and women who exploit fear to secure and expand their power. Fear activates the reservoir of intolerance that resides across ideological and partisan divides. And it dupes some of us into demanding uniformity over diversity, denigrating our neighbors, and turning our back on the very motto inscribed on the Great Seal of our Republic in 1782: e pluribus unum.
Democracy is fragile. As John Quincy Adams wrote in 1814, “Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”
In November, we have a choice: freedom or fear.
Ultranationalism:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/22/trump-nationalist-926745
Dictatorial Power:
Trump's attacks on Independent Media, independent Inspector Generals, whistle blowers, and attempt to use executive order to censor Internet media.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/14/trump-absolute-power-conservative-backlash-186887
Forcible Supression of Opposition:
"If there’s one word to describe the post-impeachment chapter of Donald Trump’s presidency, it’s purge. Just two days removed from his acquittal by the Republican-controlled Senate, Trump retaliated against those he has determined were disloyal to him because they complied with legal subpoenas related to the House’s impeachment investigation.
On Friday, Trump recalled Gordon Sondland, his ambassador to the European Union, and removed Amry Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman from his post on the National Security Council staff. Adding insult to injury, the commander in chief also ousted Vindman’s twin brother, Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, an Army officer who also worked on the NSC staff who was not a part of the impeachment proceedings.
The Friday night massacre could be just the opening act of Trump’s revenge quest. The Washington Post, citing unnamed administration officials, reports that Trump may also remove Michael Atkinson, the inspector general of the intelligence community, who shared the whistleblower report with Congress as required by law."
Strong Regimentation of Society:
Military leaders push back on Trump's calls for State Governors to take measures to "dominate" their streets or he would use the US military.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-generals-event-1.5599407
That covers it, but if folks are blind at this stage it is likely wasted effort trying to get them to see the danger.
The good news is hopefully I won't have to worry about him screwing things up anymore than he already has after folks vote his fascist incompetent *** out of office in November.
When you were typing that did you feel like you were trying really hard to rationalize the absurd, or did you still think you had a plausible case for your position?
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1 minute ago, unbillievable said:
I did the same, but my co-worker agreed with me after reading it.
A month later he was back to repeating the hoax, even more convinced that he was right the first time.
But you're the one who's in a cult.
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That keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal.
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11 minutes ago, unbillievable said:
I've had this discussion many times and every liberal always tells me to go look it up myself, because they know they are right.
When I tell them I have looked it up, and brought back proof that the mainstream media is lying to them, they tell me that I can't believe what I find on the internet...
...very frustrating.
I work with a guy who believes in the "fine people on both sides" hoax. I pulled up the transcript on Politico and let him read it word for word. He still wasn't convinced.
Never underestimate the power of denial.
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12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
I'm not ignoring it.
Notice the very 1st thing I posted.
It was a question you ignored.
I wonder why...
Ignored it? It was the entire point of the example I laid out for you. Apparently you were not able to connect the dots.
I thought doing it in reverse would make it easier for you to understand, but perhaps it was too confusing. I'll be more direct.
Bear in mind, this is a hypothetical for illustrative purposes.
Jim makes $50k/yr
Jack makes $250k/yr
Both are taxed at 30%
President Hitler signs a bill that reduces the tax rate for both of them to 25%.
Jim's take home pay increased by $2500
Jack's take home pay increased by $12,500
Between the two of them Jack received 83% of the savings.
Between the two of them Jack pays 83% of the taxes.
Jim is a liberal who sucks at math and thinks he'd be better off if they were both still paying 30%.
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Just now, Dub said:
Exactly what I was trying to get from him earlier !
You'll never get it out of him. He only has conclusions with no explanation for how he arrived at them.
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Just now, SageAgainstTheMachine said:
Bills 23, Titans 21 - Bass comes up big
Bass goes great with seasoned lentils.
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Just now, transplantbillsfan said:
Did you even bother looking at the analysis?
You guys like to accuse liberals of being all feelz and no facts... try wearing your facts hat and acknowledge that the 2017 tax cuts disproportionately helped the wealthy and is ultimately disastrous for our annual National deficit and thus our debt..,
Wait a minute!!!!
All that debt is money we're borrowing from China!!!
Trump must work for China!!!
Ignoring the analysis and then changing the subject is not typically a tactic of one who is secure in his position.
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12 minutes ago, WideNine said:
You miss the point.
Hitler was not a Fascist because of using the Socialism label, he was a Fascist because he fits the definition of Fascist from his actions.
Fascism and Socialism are different things.
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
Trump's actions often mirror Fascism, hence the anti-fascist "Anti fa" belief system which Trump often mischaracterizes as a terrorist organization unlike his reluctance to denounce far-right paramilitary groups which pose real risks to public safety.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-archive-bdd3b6078e9efadcfcd0be4b65f2362e
If you can make a compelling argument for your position that Trump is a fascist I'll shave my head and sell pictures of you at the airport.
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1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Go ahead.
Explain.
I'll try to make it simple and see if you can connect the dots.
Jim makes $50k/yr
Jack makes $250k/yr
They both get a 10% raise.
Jim gained $5k
Jack gained $25k
Between the two of them Jack got 83% of the additional pay.
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3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Did I touch a nerve?
60% of the tax savings went to the top 20% of earners and the corporate tax rate went up by 40%.
Don't fall into the same trap so many of you here seem to fall into and let your own experiences get in the way of the actual facts.
Confirmed. Liberals suck at math.
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At this point I view a white Democrat about the same way I view a guy who would high five the dude who's dicking his wife.
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15 minutes ago, WideNine said:
It was dumb of a 17 year old kid to travel to a protest armed with an assault rifle.
Like somehow the local trained authorities needed the assistance of armed noobs.
I stand by that assessment and the predictable, lethal, and avoidable outcome.
This is the very escalation problem folks are pointing out that Trump's irresponsible rhetoric leads to.
Please cite the rhetoric that lead to a kid trying to defend businesses from rioters.
Please explain how the authorities were successfully defending these establishments.
Please explain how, by virtue of the open carrying of a firearm, does one waive his right to self defense and invite mob attacks.
You seem to have thought this through and I'd love to hear the reasoning behind your assertions.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: If, as a bonus, you could define "assault rifle" for me I'd really appreciate it.
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2 minutes ago, WideNine said:
An incorrect definition created by linking a label to a political system.
You could create a political party called the Freedom Party then take power and proceed to lock everyone who disagreed with you up.
Would you then define "Freedom" as a practice of locking people up?
FascismDescription
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.so·cial·ism/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/noun-
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Pot meet kettle.
As I said:
"Hitler wasn't a socialist even though he described himself as such, but he was "right-wing" because liberals say so."
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2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
Most of the left is basically nihilist.
It's not just the left, but it's not a "both sides" situation either. Liberals are heavy on emotion and narrative and light on facts and principle. There's a reason most authoritarian regimes that have committed mass atrocities have arisen from collectivist movements. The only underlying principle that is absolute is that their side is right, no matter what their side represents.
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On 10/8/2020 at 4:12 PM, SoTier said:
I do disagree with your takes but you have your views like I have mine. That doesn't mean that we have to devolve into name calling, bullying, etc.
I don't hate Donald Trump because he's a Republican. I would hate him if he was a Democrat. I hate him because he cares for nobody or nothing but himself and his own petty desires, and he is more than willing to sacrifice anybody and anything -- including this country -- to achieve whatever it is he wants. His response to the pandemic underscores that.
Obviously there is no way for me to prove what goes through your mind, but if there was I would confidently bet everything I own on this being utter horseshit.
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5 hours ago, snafu said:
I understand that about the Court. Republicans have had the Executive and both branches of Congress before. Democrats have, too. Nobody has seriously called for packing the Court ever since Roosevelt got himself screwed up in that.
I find it extremely curious that packing the Court has become an issue alongside calls for abolishing the Electoral College and making states out of D.C and Puerto Rico. You don't think there's a message there: change the rules to suit your goal of making a one-party county? I live in a one-party City inside a one-party state. I can tell you that it sucks.
No one genuinely cares about 95% of the principled positions we argue about. It's all about what's politically convenient at the moment.
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Just now, Cinga said:
I know right? Sometimes I feel the need to slap myself for even trying to educate such dimwitted idiots as this guy!You're trying to pump a dry well.
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Everyone claims to be someone who is open to changing their opinion when presented with new information.
If you're a Covid Karen you are not one of those people.
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On 10/5/2020 at 6:54 PM, TBBills said:
That is funny since many of your buddies are doing the same ***** in these forums.
Liberals suck at math.
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13 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:
Speaking of idiots...you my friggen friend are there leader.
You can call anyone by a symbolic name, leftist, Nazi, Republican, democrate, but in the end dictators are individuals without definition.
Trump is a wannabee and you are too friggen blind to see. The use of your generic terms is typical of those who are blind. Hitler was no socialist, it was a term to gain acceptance not a political position.
Trump has been a democrate, and Republican...he is a power hungry wannabee dictator who is tearing down the institutions of the USA.
You are a friggen blind man.
Hitler wasn't a socialist even though he described himself as such, but he was "right-wing" because liberals say so.
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1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:
I don't know anything about SDS's politics, but I'd be surprised if he's a "lefty." Likewise with most (all?) of the mods.
"Lefty" seems to mean "not voting for Trump" in PPP. I get thrown in with the so-called lefty carpetbaggers who muscled in on an invitation-only Trump rally.
That's where the world is now. If Romney were running against Joe, I'd be voting for Romney. If the ghost of John McCain were running against Joe, I'd be voting for it. If the second coming of Ronald Reagan were running against Joe, I'd be tempted to illegally ballot harvest for him.
And yet I'm a "lefty" here.
Did you vote for Romney or McCain?
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3 hours ago, TBBills said:
My top 5 would be DR, B-Man, 3rdnlong, Buffalo Gal, I don't have a 5th that comes to mind but will let you know.
Dude, I started the "War on Whiteness" thread. How did I not make the cut?
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Can I get in on this?