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4 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:
Aka Proud White Boy.
Vigilantes with guns.
The morning after President Trump gave a shoutout to the Proud Boys at the first presidential debate, a member of the controversial right-wing group was arrested in Portland, Oregon, on 12 charges, including multiple felonies for assault and unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanors for pointing a firearm at another person, menacing and the unlawful use of tear gas.
Swinney, a 50-year-old self-identified member of the Proud Boys, is being charged with multiple offenses for alleged crimes on two separate days of demonstrations in downtown Portland.An indictment filed on September 11 alleges Swinney, among other charges, used a paintball gun on August 15 and August 22 to cause physical injury to another person, and on the latter day, pointed a revolver at someone “which placed that person in fear of imminent serious physical injury.”
(All Hail Fat Man !!!)
President Trump’s refusal to condemn the Proud Boys in Tuesday night’s presidential debate — telling them instead to “stand back and stand by” — was a galvanizing moment for the far-right, male-only group known for brawling in the streets with left-wing protesters.
Stand by?
for what?
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4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
Please, hoaxer. You took it out of context.
I thought that's what we were doing now, or is that only for Gavin McInnes?
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3 hours ago, BillStime said:
I control the Proud Boys, Donald! Do not stand down, do not stand back!
BillStime declares that he controls the Proud Boys and encourages them to engage in acts of violence.
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4 hours ago, SectionC3 said:
white people are superior to people of other races.
Woah, dude.
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6 hours ago, Kemp said:
Glad to hear you're voting for Biden unless you plan on writing in David Duke.
Kemp urges people to vote for David Duke over Biden.
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2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Look at the video that's posted right above.
"I don't know who the Proud Boys are."
Don't you think, if you're being pummeled in the (mainstream) media about you're refusal to disavow them you'd use, I don't know, the next 16 hours to find out who they are?
Then you could come out and do proper damage control (not the type that your campaign manager -- not the one in a mental ward, the new one -- is forcing you to do). It would be easy:
"After looking into the nature of that group, which I wasn't fully apprised of when my opponent threw that name in my face last night, I can say that I unequivocally denounce any violent or threatening tactics by them, which can only heighten tensions in these delicate times."
And still ... he can't do it.
I don't see you calling for Biden to denounce Antifa or BLM. Why is that?
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6 minutes ago, Kemp said:
More blatant dishonesty, but that's what we've come to expect from you.
Taking clips out of context to misrepresent one's mockery of a statement as though it were his stated position isn't clever or persuasive, and it tells us nothing about the speaker.
All it tells us is that you are willfully dishonest and that nothing you say can be trusted.
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A leftist will maintain his belief even when faced with incontrovertible proof to the contrary.
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
I have seen multiple polls( Telemundo, Foxnews) saying that amongst independent people who watched the debate that Trump was the "winner", is there any polls saying Biden was better?
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45 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
Riveting stuff. You support someone who won’t condemn white supremacy. Chew on that.
Hoax. He's condemned white supremacy numerous times.
https://speakingaboutnews.com/17-times-donald-trump-has-condemned-racism-and-white-supremacy/
If your credit is as poor as your credibility you'd be lucky to get a payday loan.
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9 minutes ago, Kemp said:
Anti-Semitism:
Although McInnes has decried racism and anti-Semitism, his past statements tell a different story. He has posted videos of himself giving the Nazi salute and repeatedly saying “Heil Hitler.” He was accused of anti-Semitism in March 2017 when he posted a video on Rebel Media called “Ten Things I Hate about Jews,” which was later retitled “Ten Things I Hate About Israel.”
McInnes has made a number of contradictory statements about Zionism. Prior to his spring 2017 trip to Israel, McInnes appeared in a Rebel Media video in which he asked people to crowdfund his trip to Israel so he could see what the country was like for himself; however, in that same video, he referenced both “The Culture of Critique,” by white supremacist Kevin MacDonald, and David Duke’s book “Jewish Supremacism.” It was during this trip that McInnes appears to have had somewhat of an anti-Semitic awakening. On his show on March 8, 2017, McInnes muses that Jews were somehow responsible for World War II because “the Treaty of Versailles, wasn’t that disproportionately influenced by Jewish intellectuals?” He also defended Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis, saying, “Like at one point, the tour guide goes, ‘You know, and there are people who think that this didn’t happen.’ And I felt myself defending the super-far-right Nazis, just because I was sick of so much brainwashing. And I felt like going, ‘Well, they never said it didn’t happen. What they’re saying is that it was much less than six million and that they starved to death and they weren’t gassed.” Then he finishes his train of thought with some thoughts about Jews’ “obsession” with the Holocaust. “God, they’re so obsessed with the Holocaust. I don’t know if it’s healthy to dwell.”
At another point McInnes said: “Jews: If you don’t want to get people mad, don’t be annoying.”
Seeing Trump supporters taking sides with Proud Boys is just par for the course.
This is a perfect example of the dishonesty surrounding this topic.
Here they've taken satire and parody, that no one with a functioning cerebral cortex would ever interpret as racist or anti-semitic, and knowingly portrayed it as something it's not.
You have to assume if they're lying about this they're lying about everything.
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16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
Left wing anarchists have literally been rioting and looting in our streets for OVER THREE MONTHS and that exchange in a hot mess of a debate has your panties in a bunch? 😂
As usual, the letft's utter dearth of substantive argument is underscored by its histrionic obsession with this nonsense.
7 minutes ago, GOBUFFALO716 said:If you vote for Trump, you are on the side of white supremacy. You are supporting hate and violence. You have taken your place in history.
Proud Boys are just an idea.
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5 hours ago, Dub said:
Thanks RH, I have seen this before and I've listened to interviews with Gavin Mcinnes. I guess I was wondering if I was missing something. More than anything else what does Trump need to disavow that they believe in ?
Maybe it just the fact that they're pushing back, that isn't allowed.
There's nothing to disavow. It's just due to a media smear job based primarily on SPLC propaganda and a false (and eventually retracted) claim that the FBI had labeled Proud Boys a terrorist group. The average Joe doesn't know better and just knows that the TV said they're white supremacists.
54 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:He didn't denounce anything. Read more carefully. He acknowledged that he was "willing" to condemn (entries 1-2), and that he was "prepared" to condemn (entries 3-4), but he didn't actually condemn.
So you support this scumbag, you support what he stands for. Which is refusing to condemn white supremacy.
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Here's a link about your scumbag Proud Boy pals:
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys
When you're citing the SPLC you've already lost the argument.
Of course, the truth has never mattered to you, so I'm not surprised.
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15 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:
Random people on the internet know better than the FBI whose expertise and billions of dollars in resources are dedicated to studying this.
If my FBI director tells me that the people rioting in the streets are just an idea I don't question it.
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29 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
No, but you ought to have an explanation for the disagreement.
Look, it's not that hard to do ... you just mentioned some local antifa chapters that do seem to have a clear organizational structure. So it's not hard to wait your turn and say:
"Director Wray stated that Antifa is not an organized national domestic terrorism group, but I receive many credible reports that local Antifia organizations have a clear command and control structure, and that they use that structure to terrorize our cities."
See ... it's easy. If you are reasonably intelligent.
So now your argument is not that he was incorrect, just that he didn't explain it in a way that you found satisfactory?
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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:
He is Trump's FBI Director. He is in charge of investigating domestic terrorism. He was in charge of the DOJ Criminal Division, appointed by the Bush 43 administration. He was nominated by Trump.
Really ... this arguing with his own Administration is just ridiculous.
YOU can argue with the Trump Administration all you want; he can't, at least not without looking like a fool.
So in your estimation is one obligated to endorse every statement made by his appointee whether he agrees with it or not?
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1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Well, the FBI Director disagreed in testimony before Congress.
And empty suit Christopher Wray's word means what, exactly?
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3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Biden correctly volunteered that Trump's own FBI Director stated that Antifa is a movement, but not an organization in any normal sense of the word because it lacks any organizational structure.
Trump ... argued with his own Government, just like he argued with the CDC about vaccines.
This seems to be a problem with this Administration.
"Rose City Antifa is a group. Antifa Seven Hills is a group. Antifa Sacramento is a group. Atlanta Antifascists is a group. Youth Liberation Front is a group. There are many, many antifa groups. And they are violent."
https://thepostmillennial.com/biden-antifa-is-an-idea-not-an-organization/
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"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans."
- Donald Trump, Aug. 14, 2017
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/
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1 minute ago, Backintheday544 said:
Sure didn't denounce anything. He flippantly was like sure
He said stand down and stand by. Why you leave out the stand by? Proud Boys has ties to white supremacists don't know how that's debatable.
He also never said, i condemn white nationalist. It's not like it's a new thing for him. He has frequently not done so.
It's in my fukking post, dipsh!t.
And cite your source for your Proud Boys allegation. Got anything other than SPLC?
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7 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:
For the real quote;
During a segment dedicated to race, Chris Wallace, the moderator, asked Trump, "Are you willing, tonight, to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down?"
Trump tiptoed around the question and instead doubled down that "almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing."
Wallace pushed back on Trump, along with former Vice President Joe Biden, and again asked him to address right-wing violence
"What do you want to call them?" Trump asked. "Give me a name, give me a name."
"Proud Boys," Biden said, referring to a far-right group.
"Proud Boys, stand back and stand by," Trump responded.
Except you conveniently cut out the answer to Wallace's first question, which was "sure."
Then when they followed up and he asked them which group they wanted him to tell to "stand down" they said Proud Boys (not a white supremacist or militia group, BTW) and he told them to stand down.
The big "gotcha" that you're clinging to is that he also said "stand by."
I guess you gotta take your talking points where you can get them.
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Wallace: Will you condemn white supremacists ...?
President Trump: Sure
Liberals: THE PRESIDENT REFUSED TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS!!!
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Proud Boys
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Let me see if I have this straight,
Claiming one group is privileged is racist (Nazi sympathy, even), but denying that another group is privileged is also racist?
Can you reconcile these principles?