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  1. What is your point?

     

    i did not vote for him in 2012...so I dont have a Pro Obama agenda...but personally my family's economic situation is the best its ever been...he has kept us out of the mess in the ME...The US economy is doing the best in the world....our health care costs still suck...but that will take a bipartison effort which the GOP is not interested in..

     

    I personally get a kick out of the GOP senator quotes...they want BO to work with them....

     

    if the GOP were in charge what would be better right now and how?

  2. Actually, Tom does a rather good job with debate, regardless of topic or position.

     

    He seeks to establish framework, and works towards agreed terms. He's logically internally consistent. He bases his arguments on consistent, rather than arbitrary, standards. He doesn't make appeals to emotion, popularity, or authority. He doesn't beg the question, make circular arguments, or engage in special pleading.

     

    You, on the other hand, are the opposite. You never agree to work to establish framework or terms. Your arguments are always compartmentalized, and lack any semblance of logical consistency with other arguments you've made, and are rife with conflicting standards. You're always interjecting emotional appeals, popularity appeals, and your most new found vice is you constant appeals to authority.

     

    Your current argument is nothing more than special pleading: that Senator Cruz must be held to a different linguistic standard than everyone else in the world.

     

    You do this because it suits your agenda, rather than suiting intellectually honest discussion. Your mind is so ghettoized by your biases, that it leaves no room for growth.

     

    It must be so sad to have decided so early in life that you're incapable of leaning another thing, and to be so entrenched where you stand that you lack the ability to move forward.

     

    Not really....he actually doesn't say much

  3. Could there be a clearer indicator of how they think the politics will go ?

     

     

    White House is referring to situation in Oregon as a 'local' law enforcement matter despite its taking place in federal bldg and FBI investigating

     

     

     

     

    Here Are Five Reasons You Should Side With The Hammond Family

    by Ben Shapiro

     

     

    1 through 5 Blah Blah Blah

     

    This prosecution will have a chilling effect across the West among ranchers and others who rely on federal allotments and permits. It will harm the positive relationship many ranchers and organizations have worked to forge with the bureau, and the hard work that has been done on the range. It also is hypocritical given BLM’s own harm to the range, which goes without consequence. It is unjust. OFB worked quietly behind the scenes with BLM through the spring and summer. That diligent diplomatic effort was fruitless.

     

     

    The Hammonds Are Not Interested In Violence. Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a similar dispute with the BLM in 2014, headed up to Oregon with armed citizens to take over an empty facility at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. They left a peaceful protest in order to do so

     

    The media have chosen to focus on the Bundy move because it’s more spectacular in terms of the headlines. But the Hammonds’ story is a pure example of what an insanely powerful, unelected bureaucracy can achieve when it goes unchecked. And there’s no question that as the government expands, conflagrations like the Hammonds/Bundys will become more and more common.

     

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/2303/here-are-five-reasons-you-should-side-hammond-ben-shapiro

     

     

    Or not so much

     

    http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/those-jamokes-in-oregon-arent-terrorists-theyre-jamoke-1750918911

  4. You have to love the (consistent) media...............

     

    Christmas Eve was warmer in 1955.

     

    “Three fourths of the country was over 60 degrees, and Ashland Kansas, Geary Oklahoma and Encinal Texas were all over 90 degrees. Fort Lauderdale was 85 degrees. All of the stations below were over 60 degrees on Christmas Eve, 1955.”

     

     

    Plus: “Last winter, the East Coast had record cold. That was ignored because it was ‘less than 1% of the Earth.’ But this week, the Eastern US defines the global climate.”

     

     

     

     

    It’s all about the narrative.

     

     

     

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    Nature's narrative continues...2015 warmest in industrial age...the thing about the truth....its always true :thumbsup:

  5. No tragedy is quite complete with Barack Obama trying to cynically use the deaths of innocents to accomplish some political purpose:

     

     

     

    This is just sad and pathetic. At the current pace, Obama’s hometown of Chicago will have had nearly 4,000 murders while he was president. The number of times he’s visited Chicago to hold a rally against gang violence and street crimewhich is the driver in Chicago’s body count — is zero.

     

    Since Obama has been in office he has devoted no energy to and shown no interest in the many and manifest social problems afflicting America’s cities. His crony, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, has shown less interest than Obama. What Obama has done, though, is drive race relations to a twenty year low and has set those communities most in need of effective policing at war with their police departments.

     

    He’s demanding action after Martin’s murder but to what end? The action this little man is demanding is aimed at creating controversy and division, not at resolving problems or preventing tragedies.

     

    And that will be his legacy.

     

     

    Number of time a "conservative" went there......?

    Number of times "conservatives" use the extremely high rate of gun violence in Chicago as some sort of pro second amendment crutch........

  6. Due process.

     

    Show tangible harm done to individuals, prove causation, prove liability, directly assess said liability to individuals.

     

    And even then, if it meets that standard, law (which this is not), does not work retroactively.

     

    In libertarian philosophy, people don't just get to make claims against you, obligating you to give them money.

     

    Way to be stand up and responsible...apparently the libertarian philosophy is "not my problem bro..." you are truly a credit to your country and a solid example of the TP...

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    as posted earlier

     

    Paris Climate deal says China, Cuba, Iran get to decide their own contribution

     

     

     

     

     

    The Unintentional Comedy of the Paris Climate Conference
    The Paris conference on global warming as a result of greenhouse-gas emission was a wonderful example of unintentional comedy. I know next to nothing about the technicalities of the subject, but caught on television news bulletins great wafts of hot air.
    It was highly enjoyable to hear President Obama claiming to be saving the planet that his foreign policy has done much to endanger. More forlorn than usual as he worked in a phrase to and for unborn generations, Secretary of State Kerry had the air of a man in a dark room fumbling for the light switch but unable to find it
    . Some official is quoted saying that the final two days of the conference were “among the most chaotic I have ever seen.” Lo and behold, all countries have signed up to report how they are doing by way of reducing emissions, but there’s no supervision, let alone compulsion to do what they have agreed.
    To cut to the chase, $80 billion are to be paid every year by rich countries to poor countries.
    Lots of pretty young women from all over the world then appeared on the screen smiling in praise of the unearned wealth they expect to be coming shortly.
    You don’t have to be a cynic to think that most countries, China and India in the lead, are never going to do anything that might harm their economic development, nor will rich countries commit economic suicide.

     

     

     

    If find it amusing that much of the locals here at PPP calls themselves"Libertarian' - banking on the concept that do anything that you want as long as it doesn't harm others - and if it does...you should be responsible. Now here we are - our country the major contributor to GW - and the "Lib"ertariens here want nothing to do with responsibility...hypocrisy at its best...

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    Do people realize that these polls are completely without validity? An "online" poll?

     

    Those here took who took stats 101 understand....a poll with equal validity would be....9/10 people think Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya.... based on callers to the Baurle show,,,,

  9. We need to go to near zero immigration, fix the shortcomings and resume once things are fixed. That's what I would do. Run it the way a good business would run it.

     

    ****, if Obama and Jeh Jeh showed up at a meeting in a real company and reported over and over to their superiors anything that resembles our immigration system they would be escorted to the parking lot.

     

    Do you actually know how immigration is handled these days? Can you identify the shortcomings? Do you have any data to better back up your statements and come to some proposals?

  10. At this point, I would be tempted to snark that having already disarmed and cowed its citizens to the point where they’re quoted in the media as saying, “I was frightened to defend myself; I thought if I did anything I would be arrested,” at this point, England really needs strict knife control.

     

     

    But they’ve already got that: “Save a Life, Surrender Your Knife.”

     

     

    You are correct - if only the UK had the liberal gun laws that the US has this guy would have had a gun instead of a knife and then.....

  11. Who the !@#$ doesn't believe in science? 1. What's this restricting voting abilities 2. schit you are talking about? Please be specific. While you are at it, 3. be specific about that freedom to pursue happiness thing that we are against and why (again specifically) do you think we have a problem welcoming the downtrodden 4. ? While you are at it learn the difference between your and you're.

     

    1. The GOP in regards to global warming.

    2. Check MI, TX, LA, MI, VA, PA...all your "ID voter laws:" are nothing more than thinly veiled efforts to restrict voting for segments...please don't insult whatever intelligence you have by saying they are not

    3. Same sex marriage

    4. UMM maybe all the GOP governors who don't want the downtrodden....

     

    Your welcome :nana:

    Yes they are. Of course they are.

     

    Then you get crap policy and poor results

  12. A couple years ago here at PPP we had a bald atheist (the bald part is not known for sure but attested by Crayonz/4mer)who was in danger of being banned because of his views. (Gene is still here) I don't think there were many of us conservatives who agreed with his views but several of us came out strongly in his defense because of our belief in free speech. I can't recall a liberal ever defending free speech that didn't agree with them. Conservatives tend to have principles, while liberals tend to have agendas.

     

    Principles like say....not believing in science, restricting voting abilities, freedom to pursue happiness - unless your gay....principles like welcoming the downtrodden....unless your not welcome....give me a break...what conservative principles are you speaking of that are the pillars of conservatism?

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    You mean besides the apparent military training given to the culprits by an organization to whom they swore allegiance which has a stated goal of attacking the USA? Or besides the affiliated network of like minded people working toward doing more of the same? Or besides the "half dozen middle eastern men" that visited them which seems now that it was in an attempt to help equip them for the attack? Or besides the lack of information that has come out about the perpetrator of the Planned Parenthood attack other than the crazy picture that looked like Hillary or some early reports of how he was a complete loner compared to apparent bottomless pit of information being dug up on the SB shooters?

     

    I am probably missing some stuff. Oh yeah, the PP shooter had hair but it looked to me that he might be starting to lose it.

     

    Oh, it's not a deception. Lynch said just this morning that she really didn't know the motives of these people.

     

    Not in that article Ace

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    Nice deception with the title....Lynch is not even mentioned or quoted on the story.....but hey...who checks this stuff....

     

    Anyhoo - The US has completely outsmarted the terrorists - much like Vizzini with Iocane...we here in 'Merica have been desensitizing ourselves with mass shootings by flooding the population with cheap easy guns facilitating mass shootouts almost everyday :thumbsup:

     

    Heck - do we even know if this was the biggest one this week - well it is only Friday - we have tomorrow.....these lame ISIS dudes are going to have to do better to get our attention!!!!

  15. I'm sorry...did you just personally blame me for causing the NRA to cause people I don't know to kill people with guns that are already illegal?

     

    Look, I know this is a difficult time for you, and that as someone who is developmentally disabled this has a deeply personal impact on you. But please try to remember: you're not unwelcome here because you're a liberal. You're unwelcome here because you're a completely irrational, childish little pants-wetting moron.

     

    Unwelcome to a forum with 7-8 backwater posters who seemingly have nothing to do all day and night but monitor this place where they simply give each other the reach around? The OP must be heartbroken...

  16. How things have changed in the last 8 years. Putin and the Russians are now on the side of good and Obama and the corrupt west are on the side of freakin evil. Never thought I would see the day. Russia behaving like any sane country would and the west acting curiously self destructive. Go figure.

    Move to Russia!

    When you celebrate pilots being murdered, even Russian pilots, and I respond that's not an attack.

     

    It's highlighting your barbarity.

     

    Pretty sure thet were celebrating the deaths of people trying to kill them. Putin is bombing turkish/syrian clan that crosses over that border...and is anti-assad.... you knew that because you are not low information

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