TH3
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Well Trump has the KKK vote....so there is that
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Again, as I've said numerous times on the other football side, hey at least were not Cleveland.
But weird, a city that has been run by democrats for 2 generations in a state that is as solid blue as you can get, that has some of the highest rates of unionization, is on the top 10 most distressed list. Must be purely coincidence..
But I can honestly say thanks to Pegulas evil frac money we are going in the right direction and in better shape than I can remember in my lifetime. One private citizen did more for this city than 40 years of democrats.
Perhaps you should look at the article...the most distressed counties and states are predominantly GOP run...whereas Buffalo as.a city is "distressed" a primary reason is the unusually small footprint....
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Tell us again how you're a Republican...
Tell me again how the two examples I laid out aren't clear definitions of activist judgements.....you know....when judges overturn long held legislation....legislated by 435 congressmen, 50 senators and a president overturned by 5 men......but if it fits your POV.....
But continue your MO of coming up with nothing of substance....probably fits your life...
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Wow. An originalist likely to be replaced by an activist judicial figure. The complexion of the highest court in the land is about to change very significantly.
Activist like overturning hugely ....actually almost unamimous.... bipartison legislation like campaign finance reform and voter rights laws?
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The difference being that that many Republicans have had it with their party after winning 1. two massive mid-terms and still not doing what they said they'd do. So while the GOP may try to move the needle back to the establishment candidate, they won't be nearly as successful as Democrats, who will do whatever the hell they're told to do, and they'll do it without a fight.
2.Why? Because with Dems in office, taxpayer money trickles to unions, special interests, Acorn-like organizations, Planned Parenthood...more organized, obedient nutsuckers who will gladly put Hillary in so long as they keep getting their 'free' money.
1. What did the GOP say they were going to do? -Or more importantly why do people believe candidates who say things that are never going happen because they are completely impossible - and these voters become alienated and disillusioned when they don't happen and then double down and back even more radical candidates with even more preposterous claims about what they are going to do....
2. You seem smart: I think you need to check the weight of variables....the examples you give - while they may exist - have essentially no real bearing on the economy - or for that matter - peoples lives...Federal Spending is pretty much at the same levels it has been for decades - Federal Revenue is at historical lows - so that tax burden placed on people - is also LOW....The primary things affecting the general populace are the rising cost of healthcare and the lack of growth of middle class wages....
Be nice to see adjustments to rectify those variables...
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Well. The title of the thread mentions that GW is a hoax....just trying to understand what we are arguing about....Iguess its the hoax that wealth is being redistributed by Hillsry...You might want to look up some stats...wealth has been tremendously redistributed in the last 30 years of trickle down economics....all the wealth that has been created has distributed its way to the few..but the posters here think its the dems that are pinching their wallet and future...
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Climate change will happen. There is no policy being proposed that will make a difference. It's always been just a money grab. Another scam to redistribute the wealth.
So its not a hoax?
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No problem.
We can pay these folks for
not workingWait, I mean for not
committing crimesWait, I mean for their votes......................yeah, that's the ticket.
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Yes - Peaked in 2000 - Clintonanomics....right....or maybe the peak of the baby boomers.....
Now pretty much historical norm.....
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Supply of people means there are more wants and needs. Without people there is no economy.
Are you really this stupid?
Its pretty basic stuff. More people creates more demand.
You have been hanging with greggy too much
People with money creates demand....
Right now in the industrialized nations we have a lot of rich people with money who have bought all they can and a huge middle class who have not seen their pay go up in 30 years - and as well - globally - half the population of the earth with less wealth that - what - the top 80 people.....pretty sure if that wealth was more evenly distributed the worlds economy would take off....
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It happened to be a lawmaker lamenting the absence of religion in public places as she knew it growing up. It's not as if she proposed some law like you make it sound. One gator is enough here.
Because 1 person laughing at this circle jerk is too much
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And in 30 years of talking about the rich screwing us what's he done about it? From what I've seen not a goddamn thing. Not much of a leader if that's the case.
Actually he has created a great model for low income housing in Burlington VT
The White House needs pragmatism, "something Sanders lacks"
Huh? I would say he is the one guy with actual pragmatism - once you put away your one liners. Single payer HC is the future for so many reasons - like - good for business, risk pooling, elimination of insurance model to health model...I just hope it happens in my lifetime.
Free College? - Go to other counties - they have it...graduating kids with mortgages is not very pragmatic to growing your economy...
But meanwhile we get:
- Build a wall
- Deport 12 million
- Stop the gay marriage
- Flat tax
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When you get on a train, plane, bus, or boat to get a ride somewhere do they ask you how much you earn and charge you accordingly? Because after all if you earn more you should pay more.
So you want to pay more tax?
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up boozing eh? "Your ideas are crap and must be tossed aside!"
Well i'll humor you and bite on your sarcastic nonsense spewed from your ivory tower of regressive superiority. "Your opinion is meaningless"
the zombies have already taken control, for the past 7 years. You can argue even longer if you want. "I have no detailed response other than name-calling"
flint sucks, no wonder its a crap hole, it's been run by regressives for more than half a century "The blacks - they are on welfare and are responsible for this...rather than the GOP "control board" who decided not to treat the water over the advice of engineers"
There's this thing called the 2nd amendment. it's important whether you like it or not. And here in America you have the freedom to not like things. "Even though no one is coming for our guns - we shall feed the hype machine!!"
no one cares about palin. "Except US - and apparently the police who appear to care about the younger palin!!"
Jeb is an establishment tool, literally. "Damn him - he was for immigration legislation!"
If you want to hop into the dungeon perhaps come in willing to debate and exchange ideas with a less morally superior accusatory tone "But don't mind all the poo that we throw!"
Translation provided
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Once upon a time, this board was dominated by clowns who loved to throw around, and parrot(of course), the term Neo-Con...but only about 15% of the posters here understood what the word actually meant. Now, it appears we have a new movement on the rise: the Neo-Jacksonian. It suffices to say that Andrew Jackson was not your average Democrat, and perhaps we'll improve on the 15%, and this time maybe 40% will understand what Neo-Jacksonian means.
Why bother with this? Because this little gem of an article crossed my path at RCP today: Andrew Jackson, Revenant. Read first, damn you.
I think this is absolutely the right metaphor/comparison for what is happening in politics today.
In fact, this appears to be a universal theory that explains everything, from Trump's seeming invulnerability, to Hillary's rapid decent, to Cruz's appeal over Rubio, to Kasich's march up the ladder in NH, and even to Bernie's increased support. Ostensibly, different voters are angry about different things. In many cases these things overlap, in some they do not. But in all cases, as the article points out, there is lot more unifying Jacksonian anger than there is unifying the Obama legacy and/or agenda.
Americans are angry
. Yes, far left clowns, we are "angry" 
. The country is losing at home and on the road, and NONE of your policies have made things better for the MAJORITY of Americans. You wreck most of the country in one way or another(Obamacare! There it is again You will never live it down), and then feign surprise when you anger most people? Worse, you try to equate that anger with being backward or unstable?F you...
...is clearly, and exactly what these New Jacksonian values have to say about Obama's legacy and now Hillary's agenda.
And notice: I didn't say white people. I said Americans are angry. There's plenty of agnst to go around for every demographic. This heterogenous anger most likely means that the micromessaging that marketed Obama into 2 terms in office(because he surely didn't win them), won't work this time around.
Not when going up against a guy like Trump, whose been masterful and harnessing the various forms of anger and reasons for each, all into one giant ball of anger. So, what now Democrats? Going to start calling all of us angry again? Bitter? Clingers?
I dare you to be that stupid.What exactly are you angry about - I just don't get it - please be specific how your life has changed and what policy effected that change?
Has your HC changed significantly since the ACA?
Have the gays ruined your marriage?
Someone take your guns?
Isis threatening the stability of the republic?
Immigrants threatening your ability to get off your a$$ and get rich?
Someone say Happy Holidays?
Has the rampant growth of unions threatened your job?
Have the lowest federal tax rates in modern times (save for Bush years) ruined your bank account?
Sick of clean air and water?
Sick of cheap fuel?
Sick of clean food?
Sick of cars that get good gas mileage and performance?
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In other words, you have no idea what the phuck you're talking about.
Again.
Get out of your momma's basement and look around. You'll never find a land with so many people who are more comfortable and more healthy. I'll grant you that most people are not happy right now, but 7 years of Barry was predictably going to take its toll on the American psyche.
When you're constantly being told what is wrong, and never given the slightest genuine message of optimism, and spend all your time blaming someone else for all the problems in the country before cancelling people's weddings so you can play a round of golf, then yeah...no one should be surprised when 71% of the country don't like current the state of the union.
"Only 2 percent of respondents said they were "very satisfied," while 26 percent are "somewhat satisfied."
Wonder who those 2 percent are.....
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Flat tax - comical. I am guessing most everyone here on this board would pay more in taxes and the very wealthy would pay less....of course you would have more skin in the game...so there is that.
The rich and corporations have so much skin in the in fact - that they pretty much write all the legislation that goes through our state and federal governments.
A flat tax that would be revenue neutral - or seemingly balance the budget - would crush the economy. Flat taxes simply don't work - wonder why rich republicans always come up with that idea....
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What would you give the GOP Congress?
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What sense is that? Um...one is secured by real property, and the other is secured by "I sorta-kinda promise to pay, if I get a job after school and my payment isn't so much that I can't afford a new iPhone every year?"
Umm the student loan debt is secured by you D00D...it is facilitated by banks but is "secured" by the good ole US of A... since it can't be eliminated by bankruptcy...its going to get repaid...
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If Obama had lost the 2008 election:
- No one would be occupying a cabin in Oregon - Don't be so sure...there are always idiots...not sure if Mitt would like freeloading whining ranchers anyway...Mormans pay their way
- No one would care about Trayvon/Garner - Oh...
- BLM would not exist...Nope
- There would be no talk about eliminating Affirmative Action/ Title IX...Problem solved!
- Five terrorists leaders would still be in Guantanamo..
- There would be no refugee crisis, but we would have more troops stationed in the ME - Which is better?
- Benghazi/ Paris would not have been attacked. And there would be rainbows for everyone every morning!
- People would be complaining about the national debt hitting $15 trillion soon - The GOP has no ACTUAL plan to reduce the deficit
- People would be complaining about their $500 deductable healthcare plan - The GOP has no actual HC plan
- We'll be attributing the low gas prices to the XL pipeline. I don't see why the XL should not be built but the fact is low oil prices killed it before BO
- Farmers would be complaining about the lack of available migrant workers - Huh? Illegals are ok?
- Harvey would not have hosted the Miss Universe pageant.
- Planned Parenthood would be selling more baby parts at higher prices - Good propoganda!
- Used car prices would be more reasonable. Sweet
- Osama bin Laden would be in prison. Awesome
- Iran would be further away from making a nuclear weapon - Howso
- There would be far fewer guns in American households.- Yes conspiracy theories are strong among the gullible
- Cuba would still be closed to tourists - Come on...
- Putin would not be as popular, or Russia as influential. Popular among people on this board?
- Jon Stewart would still be hosting the Daily Show
- Climatologists would have adjusted their data to indicate higher global temperatures.
- Gay marriage would still be illegal in some states, along with marijuana. Progress hurts - SSM put a dent in your life?
- Mcdonald's would not be rolling out a kiosk system this year.
- Johnny Storm would have been white. (as well as Hermione)
- The Bills would have made the playoffs.
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So in conclusion, your economic situation is the best ever, the US economy is the best in the world, and the only reason in 2012 you didn't vote for the guy who did all this is because the GOP wasn't interested in taking part in what is universally considered one of the single worst legislative actions every signed into law?
If that's true, I'd hate to think who you DID vote for.
I voted for gary johnson. I did not vote for BO in 2012 because I thought the ACA was a giveaway to the insurance and pharm industry and while it fixed sometings, did nothing to control costs. I also thought that BO was like clinton - overwhelmed in his first term. i think he has done some positive things in the last 3 years and the American economy has shown that given stability, it will flourish.
I did not vote for Mitt because I thought he sold out to the far right. Shame...because he is a true fixer and we could have used his skill set.
Yes my throwaway is that the GOP has got nothing to offer...which is an actual and debateable point....held by more than me....whereas the throwaway for most here is....Obama sucks...Back to my question before you post more BO sucks links....
If the Gop were in charge what would be different/better/ and why......or do you guys have......nothing?
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What is your point?
i did not vote for him in 2012...so I dont have a Pro Obama agenda...but personally my family's economic situation is the best its ever been...he has kept us out of the mess in the ME...The US economy is doing the best in the world....our health care costs still suck...but that will take a bipartison effort which the GOP is not interested in..
I personally get a kick out of the GOP senator quotes...they want BO to work with them....
if the GOP were in charge what would be better right now and how?
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Actually, Tom does a rather good job with debate, regardless of topic or position.
He seeks to establish framework, and works towards agreed terms. He's logically internally consistent. He bases his arguments on consistent, rather than arbitrary, standards. He doesn't make appeals to emotion, popularity, or authority. He doesn't beg the question, make circular arguments, or engage in special pleading.
You, on the other hand, are the opposite. You never agree to work to establish framework or terms. Your arguments are always compartmentalized, and lack any semblance of logical consistency with other arguments you've made, and are rife with conflicting standards. You're always interjecting emotional appeals, popularity appeals, and your most new found vice is you constant appeals to authority.
Your current argument is nothing more than special pleading: that Senator Cruz must be held to a different linguistic standard than everyone else in the world.
You do this because it suits your agenda, rather than suiting intellectually honest discussion. Your mind is so ghettoized by your biases, that it leaves no room for growth.
It must be so sad to have decided so early in life that you're incapable of leaning another thing, and to be so entrenched where you stand that you lack the ability to move forward.
Not really....he actually doesn't say much
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Obama is simply keeping the media attention away from his low approval rating and the really big problems in this country with this gun control and climate change crap. He's irrelevant in the big picture.
Most people want loopholes closed and most people think GW is a problem
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Could there be a clearer indicator of how they think the politics will go ?
White House is referring to situation in Oregon as a 'local' law enforcement matter despite its taking place in federal bldg and FBI investigating
Here Are Five Reasons You Should Side With The Hammond Family
by Ben Shapiro
1 through 5 Blah Blah Blah
This prosecution will have a chilling effect across the West among ranchers and others who rely on federal allotments and permits. It will harm the positive relationship many ranchers and organizations have worked to forge with the bureau, and the hard work that has been done on the range. It also is hypocritical given BLM’s own harm to the range, which goes without consequence. It is unjust. OFB worked quietly behind the scenes with BLM through the spring and summer. That diligent diplomatic effort was fruitless.The Hammonds Are Not Interested In Violence. Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a similar dispute with the BLM in 2014, headed up to Oregon with armed citizens to take over an empty facility at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. They left a peaceful protest in order to do so
The media have chosen to focus on the Bundy move because it’s more spectacular in terms of the headlines. But the Hammonds’ story is a pure example of what an insanely powerful, unelected bureaucracy can achieve when it goes unchecked. And there’s no question that as the government expands, conflagrations like the Hammonds/Bundys will become more and more common.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/2303/here-are-five-reasons-you-should-side-hammond-ben-shapiro
Or not so much
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/those-jamokes-in-oregon-arent-terrorists-theyre-jamoke-1750918911
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I dont think Trump ever thought he would be where he is now...as someone noted...He will be scared hitless when he gets the nomination.....congratulations Trump supporters and the GOTP....you are electing Hillary.......just as I predicted....and lamented....years ago....