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I know this will sound way more like an attack than it is meant to so please don't take it that way... Why is the fact that he completes these passes being disregarded? Now it is the way he completes then that people have an issue with? I think people are looking for things to knock the guy on personally. He completes them, they're even pretty and not lobs (nassib) or wobblers. I understand the need to drive the ball but the need to complete the pass is much more important that how fast and hard he got it there. Yes DBs are better, which makes accuracy more important, which Barkley is.

It's funny you request this: Geno - a stretch to say WV is cold weather but prob your best bet Barkley - socal Nassib - Dome Manuel - Florida Wilson - Arkansa Jones - Oklahoma Not one of the top guys fits your request - oh well there is always next year

It is funny you mention seeing him play swaying your perspective. I wonder how many people are actually watching these prospects. In the Nassib thread someone mentioned "after watching the usc tape today I came away unimpressed and don't want him on the Bills" blows my mind people are making decisions quickly and concretely like that. However as for your perspective I fall exactly on the opposite end. I can't get the battle he had with Luck 2 years ago out of my head. He was amazing that day and outperformed (imo) Luck that day. I wanted him then and still want him to be the qb now. (like how I contradict myself there? ) As for the similarities - I think both paid the price for becoming known quantities and having sub par years. Potential plays huge in the draft and these guys are more you know what/who they are. It is why EJ Manuel, Matt Scott, etc get projected as early as they do. As for what the detractors are saying I hear over and over how bad his senior year was (36:15) along with the other weaknesses you mentioned. I personally feel they are over reactions to his year. As stated I'm not saying they are the same prospect just that their paths seem to be similar. He actually had to get permission because he was only 14! He was a starter as a freshman in hs and college I just see success all over this kid. Then again I liked Colt McCoy too.... I'm not so sure Kelly. I have seen this said a couple of times but can't imagine Barbarian's Boy going at 8 instead of Barkley. The college careers are nowhere close in terms of experience, production, results, etc... I think Barkley would have gone to the Fins leaving us in an interesting situation d/t the rumors of Bills interest in Talleywhacker.

I had much the same thing to say in the 30 for 30 thread. The similarities were striking to me...

I knew that story and then when I was reminded of it I cringed. WTF was she even thinking! I can't even express how dumb of a move this was!

Saw a biopic when I was a kid about him. I became an instant fan. Then I researched his career and tragically his death. He stands out to me as the basketball player I wish I had gotten to see above all others. A little before my time unfortunately.

I was wondering what his track record of success was. It wuld seem this would be a great final smokescreen to throw out there. Except for the fact that it seems of all the qbs this is the one I haven't yet heard tied to the team.... Maybe they are smokescreening me! The double reverse smoke screen! That crafty old coot!

I loved this one but I'm a sucker for these 30 for 30s. The reason it was focused on elway and Marino is because they shared an agent and he kept a diary through the process. As for Marino, if you haven't watched it yet or plan on rewatching it - substitute the name Barkley for Marino and they are very similar stories. Prolific jr years where they were thought to be high picks, return have a sub par year, take all the blame, get crushed by every pundit around, watch stock fall. I'm not saying Barkley = Marino but the parallels were enough to stick out to me. ( yes I am in the I want Barkley camp)

1bills fan will be here in 3. 2. 1

Any interesting news? Juicy tidbits?

who is gm for atlanta? Browns would like to make a trade up to their spot offering both 3rd rounders for atl 2nd and 3rd

Cheatriots select Logan Ryan CB Rutgers

It's not a magic couch it's Matt Scott's couch!

I sent my pick through pm for tenesee

I know it is just a mock but the Barret Jones pick would make me sad. I think he will be a stud in this league - if he went to the Fins that would suck terribly. I would be surprised if it happened because of the pouncey pick but both are very versatile.

The bolded is exactly why I think all of these players are being talked about as "2nd round talents." I think the plan (for many teams) is to talk them down and still grab one in the 1st. As others have said I will be shocked if there is not at least 3 taken in the first.

local product Justin Hunter WR for the Titans

Simply best player available. Cincy selects Sheldon Brown dt Missouri (#13) on drafttek big board!

I'm here

I bought the tire fire as it was the best bonus for donuts. That said holding out for a deal from gil is prob the best bet. however his "deals" usually cost around 200 donutsso it is up to you. I logged on as I was typing this and also was rewarded with the 12 free donuts! Righteousness is gotten by visiting other people's cities and spray painting them. A few of the buildings will have a spray can over them and click on them. Also you will need to make sure to keep your city clean. It randomly goes up and down as well so there is also that but that is the way to do it. Hail Ants signs also increase righteousness I believe. Click on the i icon when looking at things to buy and it will tell you what it improves.

let wild specultaion begin!!! I'll vote that they will be at the draft party. no not provocative enough... I'll vote they are opening a franchise of canadian ballets! too provocative? I'll vote they will finally be explaining the it's on like a mofo tweet!

Once you cross 2000 it just starts flying. The snake rock drops 10 every 4 hours plus the 5 from your friends towns add up quickly. As an aside you can earn more money by getting your city up to 5 stars. Click on the star rating by your money and it will tell you what you need to add. I believe to get 5 stars it is something like 4 gulp n blows and 4 krusty burgers and maybe 5 kwik e marts. Play around with it but the bonus you get from higher rated cities is noticeable. Your city is awesome! I often wonder why I waste time putting roads in but your "superhighway" made me laugh

I don't often believe the hacked excuse but this just screams out hack job. There is absolutelty no way someone would be dumb enough to do this on their own. I hope..........

Odd it won't let me post one either... was able to make it when I clicked post it never showed...

I'll help out and put in on the main board if you'd like. I'm just getting out of work so I can put it up quickly... let me know.