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Umm no I didn't... I gave reasons why the fact that they didn't sell out in the 90s wouldn't still be true today. It is much easier to get tickets now, it is a much more starved fan base, and the NFL is much more popular now than it was in the early 90s. All of this contributes to the idea that it wouldn't be so difficult (like it was in the early 90s). 20 years is a long time especially if you are trying to pin down fan behavior/attendance. btw I am old enough to remember when the Bills were good. That doesn't matter. What a better question would be is how many season ticket holders weren't in the early 90s? Their behavior will be different because they are different people! Add in the fact that nobody that is a BIlls fan or ST holder has been to a meaningful game in December in 14 years and it changes the data. People that wouldn't go when it is the 4th straight year of Championship game (and are spoiled by success) probably would bc it has been so long.

Yeah sometimes people use that argument and it drives me insane. As if people that discovered this board later than others or lurk more than post don't have as valuable an opinion... Welcome to the board.

People's opinion contradict what others say in every thread. That is why we have this forum!!! Look at WEO he disagree with everything anyone says, look at Joe W he disagrees with any positive news about the Bills, look at the people that wanted Nigel cut for posession, look at the people that said Byrd would never play a down for the Bills again. Yes some people don't like December games because it is too cold for them others enjoy the games. Others love it and feel that it gives an advantage to the Bills. Imagine that!

This is an awfully douchey response for absolutely no reason. Good for you. His point stands though. I have more than 200 posts and fully believe that if the Bills were ever in contention in December people would go to the game. I know you like to trot out the early 90s an example of it not being true but that was before the NFL became the #1 game in America, before this incredibly long drought starving fans of competitive Dec. weather, and before getting a ticket became as easy as downloading it from your computer. It is a different time than the early 90s and football is much bigger. People just aren't going to pay an arm and a leg and freeze for meaningless games.

Seriously just an incredible album. That said what are you listening to these days? I find most of my taste is stuck in a time warp. I haven't found many new bands so if you have suggestions I'm all ears!

This is not as uncommon as you think. He has 4000 hits in professional baseball which is what they celebrated. The HOF is for all of professional baseball which is why it encompasses the Negro Leagues. A football comparison would be Warren Moon, this is lifted off of his wiki page: Moon held the record for most passing yardage in professional football (CFL + NFL career) until surpassed by Damon Allen on September 4, 2006,[1] held the record for most passing touchdowns in professional football until surpassed by Brett Favre on November 22, 2007, held the record for most pass completions in professional football until surpassed by Brett Favre on December 23, 2007,[2] and held the record for most pass attempts in professional football history until surpassed by Brett Favre on December 14, 2008. Last night was a big deal for Ichiro. He became only the 3rd player in professional baseball history to reach 4000 hits. The Japanese league is taken very seriously. When or if he breaks the all-time hits record by Pete Rose he will be the career leader in professional baseball for hits. Whether you choose to recognize it is up to you but it won't change the fact. Yankee haters and Mets Fans that's who

Not my cup of tea. I enjoy metal more than it seems most people on this board. That said it had a distinct Drowning Pool "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" sound to me. The "melody" was anything I really dug either. That said I can tell they are talented musicians it just seems they tried to force to much into this song. As for the "it all sounds the same crowd" you sound like a bunch of old fogies!!! Metalcore is admittedly my favorite and bands such as Killswitch Engage and Bullet for my Valentine reside heavily in my playlist. Just a sample of each.... http://youtu.be/CgiXVlW-ICE This is a small sampling of As Daylight Dies (the album this is off is spectacular from start to finish) It is making me put it in as 2 separate posts but here is a good video from Bullet for my Valentine. http://youtu.be/TVad3YOO9eo Admittedly they are much more screamo but both are in the same genre. Just a small sample to broaden your horizons (if interested that is)

It's decriminalized in ny too. That still doesn't make it legal. As for the tint that's just an excuse to pull someone over at 2 am. See if they're drunk or not or in this case see if they've got drugs.

Another one of these I shouldn't know but I do.... Less than an ounce (28 grams) is considered for personal use and decriminalized. My assumption is that this is what he had on him. The process is to receive an appearance ticket. Although it is considered to be an arrest there is no booking, fingerprinting, etc... It is akin to a speeding ticket. Not a big deal legally but this will put him on the nfls watch list. This will fall under the behavior clause that was discussed in the deadspin Von miller article. Next instance is 4 games for him now.

Can I just mention that there is no ot in preseason. It has been brought up many many times in many threads. I don't know why Frazier went for 2 but it wasn't to avoid ot!

I have no idea. Then again I have no idea how a shirt choice is me me me either. Just having some fun with you buddy relax.

But but but Stevie.... Immaturity... No leadership... My world is upside down! The Bills win, they blitz, big cat doesn't crush Sj for no reason! I'm speechless!

Jag oo ares.

Love that drive. How many times have teams gouged us sinking and dunking down the field in a 2 minute drill? Ej to woods looks to be an exciting pairing. Much much better preseason start than last year that's for sure! Birddog offer still stands buddy...

Pretty please birddog?

Damn you! :-)

C'mon it's my sucker bet I posted it first :-p

Care to make a wager?

There will be spoilers in this post so beware.... I had the others pegged as aliens from the start. When John hit the guy on the billboard and cracked open his skull it was my assumption. The great "twist" to me was 2 fold. When John and the detective broke through the wall to find out they were in outer space I did not see that coming! I thought that they were just in a city that the others were messing with. The second was me thinking the Dr. Would still be on the others side. I thought the injection he was trying to make John take at the spa was a trick. Turns out he was trying to help after all. I know that isn't necessarily a twist but it was to me bc of y expectations. I didn't hate it but I didn't love it either. Also I view you as very knowledgeable of movies in general and since both you and aj (his views of Star Wars vs. Matrix not withstanding :-p) recommending it I wanted to check it out. Thanks for recommending it!

Alright I got through dark city on my 4th try! I don't know if it was because te scenery was so dark, the guys kept saying "sleep" , or bc it just wasn't a very good movie but I struggled to make it through. I can see the analogy to the Matrix but I didn't really care for it. Took me 45 minutes to figure out what the hell was going on! The last 15 minutes were good but I need more. The Matrix on the other hand had me gripped from start to finish! Oh well different strokes for different folks I guess.

I was just kidding guys. Guys?

Stand your ground?

I've been a but absent in this thread and I apologize. Aj it boils down to you like Star Wars and not the matrix and there is nothing wrong with that. It is making you excuse a lot in stars wars that was bad and not allowing the same for the matrix again that is okay. Allow me if I may though to talk about Neo using his powers outside of the Matrix. He is an anomaly to the system. He is also the counterbalance to agent smith. Agent smith escapes the matrix which has never happened. It is a program living outside of the system which is exactly what Neo is. He is a program working outside of the system. Try to stop viewing Neo as a human being but as a host for the program that is the one. Much like the agents ability to transfer hosts. Neo is killed in the first movie. The program lives on through him. Also I would like to add that you allow Jedis to have magical and mystical powers but somehow won't allow your mid to accept Neo having them :-p I love stories of the bad guy and how they become that way. I looked forward to the Star Wars sequel and will grant that the Sith was an excellent movie. When he murdered the kids my jaw dropped. That said 1 and 2 were decidedly okay. So I get ajs view on the Matrix. I stand by my theory of the awesomeness of the first ruining 2 and 3 for some people. Holy crap I'm watching Revolutions right now and the Oracle explained his powers as extending beyond the Matrix and all the way to where it came from (machine city). In that same conversation to add to Levi's point she also states that Smith balances the equation while Neo unbalances it. Aj just watch the conversation that happens in the first half hour of revolutions between the Oracle and Neo. It answers many of the questions you have asked in ITT. Much better than my brain that is missing so many cells ;-)

I could see him as a late first depending on how many teams there are (not in order) 1 Peterson 2 Doug Martin 3 ray rice 4 Aaron Rodgers 5 Calvin Johnson 6 Arian foster Then spiller in a mix of lesean McCoy Jamal Charles etc... If it is a free league though have at it! Edit: (I'm kinda drunk right now so I know I'm leaving out people)

Tiger showed up so I don't think I can make it in time. I appreciate it though!