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13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
You are right they may not have been on their board. But Beane did say they "had a couple of chances to take a receiver" and decided "other positions were greater needs." I don't know which picks those were. But fair to make some assumptions.
After having to start klein last year i think it was clear lb was a need.
I know many people wanted to double up at wr but when you go down the line of kincaid, coleman, shakir, samuel, cook, and knox, you are talking about someone fighting to be the 6th target at best.
Lastly the Bills have a 5th round dart throw at wr on the roster already in shorter. I don't know that they wanted another late round developmental guy.
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4 hours ago, Logic said:
I mean...I see at least a LITTLE reason to sweat it.
It's not just one thing, ya know?
Coleman's actual college statistics, his YPRR, his Reception Perception graphic from Matt Harmon...it's a pile of things.
Of course there are always outliers. The thread in the Tweet I just posted mentions that DK Metcalf and Terry McLaurin didn't clear the 2.0 YPRR threshold either, and obviously both guys are good NFL players. So it's not a guarantee, by any means. People beat the odds.
Still, to completely disregard this stuff when it's actually a pretty decent sample size over several years strikes me as fingers in your ears, "la la la I can't hear you" kind of thinking.
Those of us that didn't love Coleman as a prospect have just as much and as valid a set of reasons for reaching that conclusion as the people who look at the same prospect and feel optimistic that he'll succeed.
He's a Bill now, so I will obviously be rooting for him. He's a very likeable guy, and the Bills NEED him to be good. But I'm not going to suddenly pretend I loved the pick. That would be dishonest of me.The one issue I have with analytics in football is there is so much context. What are the receivers expected to do, what are the reads for the qb, how GOOD is the qb, how much time does the qb have to let the route develop, and so on.
Coleman was in the group of receivers that I was okay with being drafted. The trade downs were just a cherry on top but the thing I look for when watching college is guys who can take over the game. Coleman did that in the LSU game, against an SEC opponent he was the best player on the field. With 2 other guys who would go in the first round at receiver and the heisman trophy winner. He also took over the SU game (admittedly a much weaker opponent) and his one handed grab was an absolute thing of beauty.
Time will tell but he has as good a shot as any wr drafted being successful in part because of the situation he finds himself in.
3 hours ago, Logic said:Just to add to my previous post about the YPRR thing. This goes back to 2015. 1,000 yard season producers in the NFL are highlighted in bold.
A little scary, no?
(also, Hi Justin Shorter, we see you)
Yes and no. Obviously not a great list to find yourself on however, how many of these guys were thought of as high round picks? There are a ton of names on there that I don't recognize and many of those that I do were mid to late round picks. Additionally, AD Mitchell and Xavier Legette who many wanted are both lower than Coleman on this list. So if it concerns you for Coleman it should also concern you for them.
Lastly, this must not be a stat the Bills pay much mind to. I see Shorter and McCloud on there lol.
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On 4/27/2024 at 1:32 PM, Chandler#81 said:
The play at 36 seconds is so much a bills play. Qb almost gets sacked and ducks out of to throw a quick toss to the hb. He takes it to house! its so easy to envision that on an upcoming sunday.
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18 minutes ago, Rockinon said:
As a side note, I think the Bills the overall philosophy changed after the playoff loss to Cincy a couple years ago. The Bills were bullied in that game and that did not go over well. It is looking to me like the Bills are looking to become the bully. From the beefing up in the trenches to the skill position players. They know they have a great QB but clearly they also intend to run the ball. The entire way they are building this team is to get back to some smash mouth football.
Looking at this draft I came away with the same impression. The Bills are looking to get more physical which is important come playoff time.
Also I'm wondering if this is the Bills getting ahead of the curve. Defenses had the upperhand last year as they got smaller and faster to combat the passing explosion. The Bills started building a big physical offense to perhaps bully other teams.
Last thing to throw in: this is another guy who will be incredibly easy to root for which is one of my favorite things about the Bills. So many guys seem like fun loving good people. His press conference immediately made me like him and I can see the fit with Josh's personality.
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Isnt this a bit of an unfair exercise where we know who will still be available so we can play around with combinations?
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40 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Fans are not only entitled to their opinions but the entire NFL draft money-making-machine is based on engaging people enough that even millions of fans that don't even follow college football at all in-season suddenly have an opinion about which college football players teams should draft.
Case in point the coleman thread is longer than the other 9 picks combined lol.
Weird i can't remove that tag...
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Cmon Hayden Hatten!
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@SDS grable thread for merging. I see I was fairly inconsistent with my thread titles lol
https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/254282-round-6-pick-204tylan-grable-ot-ucf/
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My wife was annoyed that the draft stretched over 3 days. Thankfully this amazing name bought me all sorts of good will as she thought it was hilarious. Then the kids got in on it and I got to watch the rest of the draft without getting yelled at.
I will always appreciate and root for Ulofoshio!
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5 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:
Did anyone take that DB from the Argos who didn't play college football?
The Jets
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1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Can we just make him the best FB in the NFL please. This big man can move.
Tackle eligible all day long!
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4.79 forty at 300 lbs!
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Stump the truck distracted me!
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1 minute ago, Steve Billieve said:
His play for nearly half the season was pretty awful. I don't know exactly why, but whatever the reason, it could continue to be an issue.
As a practicality, it seems a little early for so many to go. So I guess I'm concerned that maybe they planned on one later.
When youre normally solid kicker falls apart I always wonder about the holder. Boroquez was a good punter but terrible holder and that is the reason he isnt in the league anymore.
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30 minutes ago, boyst said:
Well, @section122is a jerk. Originally the joke was clear. He had "round 5 placeholder"
So, your hilariously dramatic name calling is annoying, at best. Do better.
Not the worst thing I've been called today...
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Traded down from 163 to 168
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2 minutes ago, boyst said:
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/edefuan-ulofoshio/3200554c-4f41-5291-3cc2-1bcb2e45fd62
Edefuan Ulofoshio, LB
I had to keep switching back and forth on tabs on my phone to get the spelling right! Lol
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Beane really testing my spelling skills...
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Thats a mouthful
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Just now, FireChans said:
The Eagles have managed to win a Super Bowl, retool their roster, make splash move after splash move, and get to another SB with a different QB all in the same time as Josh, Diggs and Von while having an all-around more talented roster.
We are led by the Ghosts of the 2015 Panthers who want to have 9 DL depth players and force Josh to make magic happen throwing to Devin Funchess 2.0 and Ted Ginn Jr.
The expectations should be higher. Beane would be a goner the way he wastes top end picks if he didn’t knock the Josh pick out of the park
And lost to the chiefs... imagine if they had to go through the chiefs in their conference.
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2024 NFL Draft - Day 3 debrief
in The Stadium Wall
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They were down 3 guys and 1 of them left. If dodson had come back i would agree with you.
Specter is what he is at this point (he was hurt but hadn't really been relied on all year to that point) and Matakavich also left. I think ulofoshio will replace matakavich on st and save a ton of cap dollars while also offering a chance to be a piece on defense.
Besides that his name is so fun to say!
It has long been one of my complaints that the Bills have guys who are jags instead of having young guys who can possibly develop. My other concern was the softness and the Bills added physicality with this draft so on those 2 accounts I am pretty happy with how it all played out.