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Malazan

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  1. http://www.greenskyproductions.co.uk/iwial...nettoughguy.jpg

     

     

     

     

    As for Maybin, I really don't understand why everyone hates on this guy. He was a rookie last year, playing out of position, under an inept coaching staff. Oh yeah, he also missed all of training camp cause his agent was dealing with a front office that couldn't find its way out of a paper bag. I'll give the guy this year to prove himself, if not, he can go somewhere else. But to rag on him like he's the all time bust of the Buffalo Bills is a little silly. And to the OP, till he makes a play, nobody should know who Aaron Maybin is, especially a gossip magazine.

     

    Still waiting to know if the magazine is real or only exists in the mind of the OP. What magazine was this?

  2. Sorry. Thought that he was in the third year of a five year deal that paid him 12MM with 7MM guaranteed. And that after upfront payments he was looking at playing for about 500 thousand in "new" money this year. Know that they have been renegotiating while he has missed all team activities so far this year. When you say his contract is "up" I guess you mean up for renegotiation? Certainly it has not come to term. Regardless, the theme of this thread was whether a player is bound by his contract or is it appropriate in certain cases to tear up the document and start over.

     

    He wants 30MM. Titans won't pay that. He may hold out yet, Mr Weo, (unless I missed his signing something).

     

    Offensive player. Peyton Manning. In response to the post about comparing Revis to the 'best offensive player'

  3. You have made your point and its a good one. In this way Reevis is a lot like Andre Johnson. They both opted for rich contracts that guaranteed security.

     

    But do you also think that the best player in the world on the offensive side of the ball should shut up and play for $500,000 this year?

     

    Hi contract is actually up for one. He's also been the best offensive player for many years now.

  4. When an obvious troll is obvious (started posting yesterday, his posting history, few details, player that a lightningrod, etc) I don't see a need to address his actual made up topic.

     

    So what magazine was this? Please do share.

  5. From a fan's perspective, yes, but I know that Aaron personally and his motivation really was family oriented. He felt he could not have his three children split time between Buffalo and Texas, where his extended family lives. He was also deeply frustrated with the Bills organization. I know also that this was not a rash decision, but one he made last November. I cannot say any more about the situation in good conscience.

     

    That somehow makes it ok? He has the option to retire 'for his family'. Since you know him, tell him to go right ahead and do so and put the check in the mail.

  6. What does what they could play for have anything to do with it? He is regarded as teh best cornerback in the league and has outplayed his contract. The market dictates what he should he paid. He is going to get mega money because someone is going to pay him mega money. You have to stop comparing your career to a NFL star's career. No offense and I'm sure you are good at what you can do, but you are replaceable for least money. The Jets could say Revis is replaceable but they know he's not. He is going to get pay one way or another.

     

    And I hope Revis doesn't settle for anything less than getting top dollar and the holdout goes all season.

     

    I'm sorry, but do you understand contracts at all? It is impossible to 'outplay' your contract unless it is stipulated in the contract that you can do so. In some cases, teams see value in rewarding a player who has performed well. Sometimes they absolve the contract and replace it with a new one which generally would keep the player on the team beyond their current contract.

     

    If the Jets give him a significant raise then the organization really is a one year wonder that hit at the right time and had some luck. He still has three years on his contract. I seriously doubt he will still be the best corner in three years. He had *one* good year and he deserves to be paid for five good years?

     

     

     

    Why don't we switch NFL players salaries with that of Soldiers...or is Revis irreplaceable compared to a soldier's life too?

  7. For you and me, those look like insanely high figures. Not so much for guys used to the salaries and the lifestyle that the highly paid pros are expected to maintain.

     

    These guys earn it. They risk injuries, they have extremely short careers, their life-spans are shortened radically by their years in the NFL, and they often end up not walking right, not able to pick up their kids, suffering pain at every step, and all too often losing brain function early in their lives due to concussion-related problems. They trade their golden years as pros for misery in their middle and later years.

     

    Did you see this story about Steve McNair? During his career, he earned $80 mill, and his estate is now estimated at $19 mill, including property. His last year was 2007, so two years after he has finished playing, he was worth less than 25% of what he earned. And McNair was always one of the bright ones, the guys who understood the fleeting nature of the business.

     

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...niversary_N.htm

     

    Think McNair didn't wish he had made an extra $10 mill or so along the way?

     

    It tends to be human nature that we spend roughly what we make. A sad and pathetic part of human nature, yes. But it's written into us. Yeah, we can change, and many do. But I really don't understand the people who get angry at the guys who sacrifice their bodies, angry on behalf of the owners, billionaires who will end up with the money that doesn't go to the players.

     

     

    I'll take his 19 million and trade my lifetime salary. Players are well aware of the risk and decide to do so because of the paycheck. That does not entitle them to invalidate their contracts.

     

    No one told them to buy things they can not actually afford. So if it's human nature to spend what you make (not true at all by the way) then we can solve that problem for them very easily. They can play for about 25% of what they make now.

  8. Comparing playing in the NFL to a regular job is flat out wrong. There are million things wrong with that analogy. He has the talent and busted his @ss to get where he is at. And your argument might have a little weight if Revis couldn't get the money elsewhere. If he was on the open market, he'd get what he wanted in a second. Don't kid yourself.

     

    There's no way a living, breathing, thinking person could...wait, reading the vick thread...you are serious.

     

     

     

    Revis can't get the money elsewhere. He has a contract. Name one point in the history of the NFL that a player under contract has been made an official contract offer from another team.

  9. What about the billion owners who sit in a press box and gets paid off players who are risking permanent injury or shortly their lives. This same players also didn't get a cent while in college while they were making millions for their school.

     

    Players deserve every cent they can get. Especially when a league is making as much money as the NFL is.

     

    Players dedicated long ago to take those ricks. I have zero sympathy for the players. He can go work at Burger King and not have to worry about injury.

     

    It's one of the reasons they are paid so well to begin with is because of that risk. They can't keep going around talking about they should be paid *even more* because of that same risk.

     

    Players are disingenuous when they say stuff like that. He'd still want that money even if the contract was guaranteed.

     

     

     

     

    You go into your next review and try to get your employer to pay because you "might" get hurt. Heck, just try to tell him that he should give you a raise for next year because you will continue to perform at your job.

  10. +1 . Put Poz on the Steelers w/ Dick L. instead of Dick Jauron and watch what happens. Poz is a great player. I don't understand the mindless criticisms of him.

     

    He's on the Bills. As we all know, there is not one players on the Bills who would start for any other team

  11. How sad Levy traded up for Poz when they could have stayed where they were and drafted Woodley. Woodley is everything Poz isn't. The Steelers stay put, don't waste draft picks, get the better player, and pay him less.

     

    Hey, that sounds like the Bills draft this year.

  12. Yes and Polian was a great GM......can't have it both ways- either the coach is supposed to pick the players or the GM is supposed to pick the players.

     

    This doesn't make sense. The coach had great influence in what players were on this team. So his talent was another one of his bad decisions. He *could have pushed for different players.

     

    How did Polian come into this? Did you know he was gone long before Jauron was on the Bills?

  13. DJ wasn't the whole problem, but he was A problem and arguably, the biggest of them all. He didn't have a whole lot to work with, but he did have them playing pretty decent ball for about 5 or 6 games.

     

    However, when the wheels did start to come off, he wasn't able to do much of anything about it and he ultimately lost the confidence of the players and FO.

     

    Well, since Jauron had a big hand in picking those players...

  14. What do real fans do in these scenarios? They whine, complain and B word. Why? Because they care and the dumb things this team continually does actually hurts them. The ones who can get excited about this joke of a franchise just aren't as emotionally invested in the team. And that's okay. They're the same people who will say "oh get a life, it's only a football game" or something to that effect. This mentality has served you well for the last 10 years, I'm sure.

     

    I think the example of, 'if your kid's little league team sucks, are you going to stop cheering?' Are you less 'emotionally' invested because you keep cheering for them anyway? I'm under no illusions that the team is going to have a difficult year in what seems like a tough division. I'm not going to somehow be 'less interested' in rooting for them.

     

    You can be pessimistic all you want, but we're not your therapist. I know I'm tired of feeling like I'm trying to talk to a room of depressed teenagers who are unable to entertain any thought that is not exactly what they think.

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