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a player + pick for him would have been great if that player was Hines sent there.

Who would coach it and why is it Kyle shannahan?

Because of course I have to weigh in: "Shut up and play ball rando sportsball guy" That's my quote.

Go ahead, id like your take I know the scheme is old enough but am curious how it can be used so efficiently to have no breakdowns of seams the field corner being exposed often. I think it goes back to the athleticism of the current NFL athlete.

Don't have a ton of time to get into it this evening and still seeing how cover 4 and cover 6 are being utilized to explain better. They may not be entirely new but they are being used a lot more with new wrinkles, with better athletes, and more effectively.

If you've not been along for the ride of this whole concept going back years, I get it. The whole concept isn't about trading away players, cutting them or doing anything then putting them as shares like a stock. If I owned shares of Taron I'd be wanting to sell them now to buy into something else.

The idea of selling high is lost upon so many. And so many here weigh in with opinions without the understanding of this thread. It's weekly and it's opinion. That's all

I like your statement on Dorsey. He needs to fix problems! It's easy to overlook Poyer. He has been so good for a long time but he is still doing it well!

I think his values extremely high, and I want to capitalize on it

Rugby doesn't have the stoppage and interference with discretionary calls like football Football is becoming as pussified as soccer.

Pussification

We pulled off a victory against the Giants. It wasn't pretty but now could be the time to thin critically on some of our players. By now you should know the drill. If not, then: The premise is simple. There is no value, there is nothing more than if the player was someone who you think will be trending up or succeeding this week to want to buy, if they'll be going the other way and you want to sell them for whatever (remember sometimes selling high is a good thing), and holding just means you want to keep this guy on your list because you think there is something there. Me? Buy: OL They seemed to have a rough week but still seem like a solid unit. Against Belichick and what he can do on defense maybe I want to believe they will be able to hold up more than reality. But, I am on the OL train this week. Sell: Taron Johnson. Sell while the value is high! Tesla, Boeing, all of that. He had an amazing game and I want to cash in on everyone wanting some of him. Hold: Cook. I could sell him. I don't know that he will be utilized and succeed as much as he did earlier this season. I hope I am wrong but I do not see this week being a week he will flourish. Murray has been playing well taking the ball out of his hands, too. edit for those new to this, the thread is a weekly thread (when I remember) often on Wednesdays that treats the players, the position, or about anything in the NFL as a stock, if you will. It's nothing more, nothing less. so for example, if you thought Elam sucks donkey but could have a decent game you could want to buy. Or if you think James Cook is going to be losing carries to Murray, and you don't think Cook will continue to have an influence like earlier in the season you could sell. Saying this doesn't automatically mean you hate the player or want them to be traded, released, or bludgeoned.

Your posts are always well written with relevant context. Well done. But to your question it's kind of fairytale dreamland hypothesis stuff... 30 years ago the best athletes were generally RB's. The gap of quality by position put most talent on offense. Somewhere in the early 00's the influence of the WR trickled over to the younger generation to produce phenomenal WR's for a solid decade. Terrel Owens, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant, Randy Moss (gosh I can't remember all that long ago) were big influences to the younger generation getting into the game and showing what big, physical athletes can do. By the mid-to-late teens we were seeing the best athletes going to DB. Honey badger, Patrick Peterson, etc. We are still seeing this now. There is a gap where the defense had been but it's been shrinking. The running backs ignored and the style and size of the key positions has drastically changed from 10 years ago. We have seen phenomenal college athletes at the running back position get to the NFL and struggle. I can't even remember all of them over the last 5-6 years but an example like Pittsburghs Harris is an example. And regardless of age Henry isn't able to offer as much on defense. What I am curious of deducing and waiting to see is if it is just that the offensive lineman are still that far behind as athletes to be able to provide the support for run and pass blocking? This is kind of a ramble, totally my style... But, in 3-4 years are we going to go back to the mid-90's type of OL form that was average at best at all things vs specialized? Or are we going to look at have OL specialists put in for scheme specific roles? Say a Tommy Doyle at tackle over Dion Dawkins to run a specific series of plays? I want to see where the athletes are going to keep going because now I see athletes going back to RB and QB in the high school ranks.

Part of coaching is about acquiring and assessing talent on all levels. Not simply the starters. McDermott made a serious infraction when he deemed Elam and Williams were capable backups. Elam came in unprepared and looked like he had not been coached. If not for his able play last year this would be 100% on him. We know he can at least serve some reps. That they believed Williams could offer more than Klein or others at LB in a backup role was the biggest mistake I've seen. McDermotts first choice was Williams. When he struggled Dobson went in. Why did it take real game time to evaluate Dobson? Why did they evaluate their MLB's as capable enough last year only to have to go get Klein when they realized their mistake too late? Same with Marlowe losing out over Johnson. McDermott is not doing good at evaluating his own talent needs.

I have been somewhat held back on Williams. I just don't think he should be starting. I don't think he is a failure as a career. I just don't think he belongs on the field and it should have been obvious to coaches.

The ebbs and flowers of football development make the next 3-4 years interesting

They're having more success than the last several years of play. Partially due to better athletes and development of DB's with the adaption of the game, at least in my opinion. This could also be due to lack of quality offensive positions. OL athleticism is down to near lows, and RBs are not the best athletes any longer.

The defenses have caught up with the offenses. It's fun to see. Cover 4 and cover 6 are making great leaps.

I want to see the results on the field. He has had to focus too much on defense to pay attention to the offense. It's hard to wear a HC hat and DC hat. Points are scored on offense. Easier to be an OC/HC

i do. i don't think we are disagreeing at all fwiw i think we are seeing things from a different perspective with little variance in the conclusion. yes, i watched the super bowl. the defense finally caught up this year. i think we are back in a spell where good defenses will matter more than the last few seasons. new defensive concepts are out there and just being grasped. we will see if mcdermott can grasp it.

we are great in the regular season. paper tigers with all the pretty stripes. when it coems to the playoffs we have the best, world exclusive excuses. mcdermott is going to run out of them. unfortunately, it won't be this year. the one i have on my bingo card that hasn't been used is that we lost Edmunds. regardless, we have been beaten by lesser teams too often. we have been whooped by bigger teams. we show up unprepared when it counts. as @Kirby Jackson has said, it is perfect here. does the coach coach above the talent the team offers? mcdermott certainly does not.

just like we so easily beat the Jets without a QB...oops. nvm

the inverse if true of you. especially demanding that we provide a name of a certified, bona fide, qualified, exemplified super bowl winning coach. already listed him

ok, if this is true it is just as concerning that we cannot scheme and plan accordingly. which may make sense that when teams come out and beat us hard and physical with a good gameplan we struggle. so far i don't see much different with McD than with Frazier

i've read this and been on this page for a while. however, i will point out as i did after week 2 when i was fussing about how poorly our defensive playcalling was against the Raiders. their scripted plays came out and wrecked McDermotts defense. and there wasn't 1 excuse due to injury at that time. the raiders exposed our defense in that game and if you watch those first two series it was clear they knew our weakneses. they didn't sustain good playcalling and completely choked the rest of the game, though.