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1: The Bills weren't going to make the playoffs one way or another last year. They knew it. Most discerning Bills fans new it. It was a "wasted year" only because of the decision to go with a very young roster and a patchwork lineup, while getting out from the under the salary cap rock the team inherited. Thus then puts the onus on Allen to show signs of improving, and from everything I saw from last year, he's ahead of EJ Manuel in that department. He's a better, more athletic quarterback. Not saying he's great or good yet. He's better than Manuel. 2. All I'm saying is the selection of EJ Manuel was a bust from the beginning and Nix should never have painted the team into that corner in the first place. By many accounts, Allen's performance last year was better than that of some of the other first-rounders taken. 3. You seem hellbent on proving your little notion that things can be turned around swiftly. How about we provide some examples of that. The St. Louis/LA Rams were world beaters for so long under Jeff Fisher. The Oakland Raiders have made leaps and bounds under all the people they've had coaching them, plus DEREK CARR! Cleveland. 4. The decision to trade up 5 spots to draft Sammy Watkins was questioned when it happened, and continues to be second-guessed by just about everybody. It was no different than Donahoe, unhappy over losing out on Roethlisberger, to trade back into the first round and draft JP Losman on what was essentially an egotistical whim. That move set the franchise back for four years. But you clearly have all the answers, and there's nothing I could say to change your mind. So let's leave it with me wishing I could agree with you, but knowing I can't because that would make both of us wrong. jw

Is it overstated? Let's review. The Bills made the foolish mistake of drafting EJ Manuel, which set the franchise back for two years wasting time waiting for him to develop. If that wasn't bad enough, the Bills then doubled down on their mistake the following year by giving up a first-round draft pick to select Sammy Watkins to prop up a quarterback who wasn't going to succeed, thus mortgaging yet another year, and possibly two, of building the team. Add in a few more ill-conceived contracts and a bad coaching hire in Rex, and It's taken six years to finally get out of that hole. It's a dirty little secret only if you don't compound one mistake with another and another. And that's what happened. jw Here's a nugget: What if AJ wanted out because he was unhappy he got hurt and wasn't awarded the starting job. The Bills weren't going to win the opener with either three of the quarterbacks. The only mistake made, which Beane has fessed up to, is he should've brought in Anderson the minute he traded McCarron. Lesson learned. Move on. jw

simple, because Tyree Jackson ignored all the advice to stay in school for on more year, not entirely realizing that few NFL teams had him on their radar last season, and that he was an average quarterback in a non-power conference playing for a team that was mostly run-oriented, making it difficult to gauge his potential after essentially one full season in which Buffalo lost its final two games and, without Anthony Johnson healthy, opened questions as to what was the cause of Jackson's inconsistencies, all but confirming reasons as to why he was so under-recruited coming out of high school. other than that i'm sure you're lengthy post, which i failed to read, has all the other answers for it. jw

It's my understanding the Bills were prepared to move up as high as the 7th pick if it came down to landing one of two or three players: QWiliams, Ed Oliver and possibly Hockenson. Not sure if Josh Allen was on their radar, because they expected him to go to Jacksonville. When it got to 7 and with Hockenson and Oliver still available (and with a good feeling the Jags weren't going to pick either), there became no real need to trade up because they knew they'd land one of two players, and more than likely Oliver. The scenario could have changed if not for what Oakland and the Giants did. Now, if they failed in their bid to move up to 7, and missed out on one of their top-rated guys, then a trade back was likely because of the falloff grades on their board. All that said, when looking at what Buffalo did in the second and third rounds, Beane continues to show his MO is to go after the player he wants as opposed to move back and risk losing out. ... This philosophy might change should Beane, at some point, desire adding more draft picks as assets. But so long as he has them, he likes to use them in all ways possible. jw PS: the speculation of the Bills moving all the way up to No. 3 was overblown. a call was made, but the price was so high it proved to be a very short conversation. (actually, there were two conversations and both were short).

I dare not ask or dip a toe into that mucky swamp of rumors and spin that happens every afternoon before the draft. The reasons: 1. I'd be skeptical of any front-office person or agent telling me anything today. 2. It would be next impossible to confirm. 3. There's little shelf-life to whatever scoop you may or may not have, because it will all be proven right or wrong in the coming hours. What's the point of risking being used and being wrong on something you might not entirely trust. 4. This is why I don't lean on my sources today, especially when I can get more insight on other things later on and with more riding on the story. jw

you're clearly high on some kind of delusional substance or substances. i've never read a post filled with so much inaccurate information as this one. not even the first sentence is correct. The Replacements "are" my favorite. the rest of your post is incoherent drivel. jw

that is both so erroneous and revisionist history that it's laughable. his first tweet on the matter was: "There it is. ..." Bills and Steelers narrowing in on a trade involving Antonio Brown. there was no qualifier. and deal was dead in the water two days earlier. jw doing favors is one thing. doing favors while knowing the information you are putting out is erroneous or biased to the point its not accurate is patently irresponsible. jw

I'll be in the Bills media room as per usual. Thanks for asking. jw

rapoport was lazy by relying on simply one source, who either wasn't up to date on the discussions or was using rapoport to push Antonio Brown's value. either way, it was irresponsible and erroneous. jw

bands dressing up as giant eyeballs? i do think you clearly have me mistaken for someone like an early genesis fan or something. please. jw

I didn’t talk names. But I will note that moving up for D help rather moving back for O help prompted the comment. jw

oh, i’m quite familiar with the place. ?

i’m not at all surprised how much this has taken off and been to some degree twisted to satisfy some folks’ narratives and hopes. the significance of my initial tweet is, in reality, more of a tidbit and not five-alarm fire that came up during a recent conversation. again, as i’ve posted here an on the tweeter: i dont know what chance of a trade will happen. simply, a trade up is more likely (odds? dunno) than down in first round. jw

libel! i’m a music snob. beer? Blue and Guinness jw

I’ve on occasion had a story or two linked on TwoBillsDrive. jw

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1) i'm me. 2) i rarely, if ever, do i have opinions when it comes to posting about the draft. jw

Not saying it's going to happen or not. And certainly don't have any idea of who the Bills might target to move up. What I'm simply suggesting is Beane is more comfortable in going after a player he's targeting, than moving too far back and hoping a player he wants is still there. And that very much applies to this year's draft. Again, he could be very happy at staying at 9 and not moving based on his board and where the drop-off of talent begins. This part is merely gut, as it wasn't discussed. As someone noted, the Bills have 10 picks, and it would make sense to use some of those assets to work from a position of strength and landing better players or players the Bills have higher on their board. They did that twice last year. jw

That warrow guy's a dope. jw

I mostly engage with folks on social media. And no, it's not a requirement. It all depends on how you approach it, especially when it comes to a columnist. The person is providing his/her take, agree or disagree, but there's no point in arguing with the point. It's the columnist's point of view. That's a broad overview. When it comes to specifics, that all depends on how you approached it. jw

For what it's worth, Tim's a very good friend of mine. He left this board after being challenged -- unfairly, in my opinion -- by several posters who ganged up on him and essentially demanded he reveal a source about something, rather than taking his word for it. The posters who went after him so much crossed the line that I believe SMS established several rules in regards to the limits of how far people could go in these cases. jw

Woah, it's a thread. good golly, then it must be important. how about simply ignoring it. rather than pounding this dead horse into the ground, pouring oil on it, and lighting it on fire, and then adding a handgrenade or two just to make sure every atom of the creature has been obliterated from the face of the earth. or flying to your computer with arms waving, squealing breathlessly awaiting to submit a hot take about something essentially meaningless. My Gawd! He, he, he, he said 21 points! jw we at 10 pages yet? can't wait.

Disagreeing? This isn't disagreeing with what the coach said. This is bringing out the pitchforks and torches by parsing something McDermott essentially said in passing. Holy bejeez. He said he'd like the Bills to score at least 21 points a game. So damn him because he didn't 42 or 487 for that matter. Chill. This wasn't some Sermon From the Mount or a State of the Union address in which every word must be parsed and interpreted and then taken as pure and unadulterated Gospel. And it's ... checks calendar ... March 1 for cripes sake not Week 8. jw But please, proceed. I'm here for the over-reaction.

I'm absolutely shocked this is only a 7-page thread. C'mon, folks, you can do a lot better in the over-reaction, hand-wringing department. jw

But what if that's exactly what he meant? They get to 21, and that's it. He puts in the second- and third-stringers. Maybe, one day, they score 17. And the next he stops at 24. What if they get shut out one week, and now he's gotta score 42 just to make the average. I pretty sure it's especially important on this day ... checks calendar ... Feb. 28, that everything said must be taken seriously and without question. There's no room for inferringness. jw