The_Dude

Well this is getting embarrassing. Well this is getting embarrassing. Well this is getting embarrassing.

Well this is getting embarrassing.

Well this is getting embarrassing.

Bob Woods came to play.

Damn good drive. Good QB play!

Dear EJ, That's what a real QB looks like.

And it starts...

Love that ST by Easley

I can't imagine them doing that this week...I can't imagine Orton is ready either. We'll see.

"I will call you out." Spoken like an overly confrontational narcissistic megalomaniac. I gave reasons for my opinions, whether you choose to accept whether I did or didn't is out of my control and not something I care about. Enjoy your night, it's game day tomorrow.

So, I tell you why I think what I think and you call it arrogance? Interesting. I also gotta say, you're quite distasteful. I offer you my thoughts and you label me negative and arrogant. This aggression will not stand man. At no point did I suggest I had inside information or answers. Your proclaiming I said that doesn't make it so. I didn't. The problem with guys like you, Dean, is that you don't want discussion, you want argument and you want to conquer people with different opinions to make yourself feel superior. I feel sorry for you man. Learn to have a discussion even with people who have different views. And you'll find that you'll go a lot further if you don't inform people of what you've decided their opinions are. Good luck man, I really hope you can learn to have more cordial discussions because you're a smart guy, I can tell by how you write...but you're very rude and confrontational. I really hope you work on that. As for football, I'm done discussing it with you on this thread because I don't want an argument man. I like that! But I think Doug's to straightforward of a guy for that masquerade. But I like that idea. It's interesting.

I reject the notion the Tuel wasn't putting in the work. He was in great shape and according to reports he put in the time. I've an idea why EJ didn't receive any 'rise to the challenge' call outs and I imagine my ideas differ from yours. Which game was it that EJ confirmed to the media that EJ did a good job because his coaches said so? I seriously don't remembers hitch game it was...this preseason was one big blur of offensive ineptitude.

Motivation? That was Tuel's and Lewis' issue? Don't think so. It's ridiculous. I wouldn't think that of either those two and I don't think motivation is the issue with EJ.

Don't read to much into this but it's true...if EJ was as good of a QB as Woods was a receiver we'd all be better off.

I said TJax > Kolb, not EJ. I heard Schoop say Bob Woods called out EJs play which created the riff between he and Marrone.

I agree. And that's why I'm concerned. I always got the impression Marrone never wanted competition for EJ. Marrone got rid of TJax who was better than Kolb. He didn't want any new QBs this off season and if rumors be true he got upset about the Orton signing. I'm not saying 'fire Doug' but he's losing the fan base. If they get out to a bad start it's not going to go well.

You don't think EJ could use a 'step up' challenge?

Why would he publicly critize the backups? Why would he not care about their confidence. Our backups played 6 games last year...it served no purpose to openly critize them but Doug did. I think you missed my original point. My point wasn't 'Doug should openly critize EJ' but 'why would Doug critize Jeff and Thad but coddle EJ?

I can. It's so odd to see him say he wasn't pleased with the backups. To me that'd be fine but he wouldn't say anything close to 'EJ could have done better.' I believe Marrone is very concerned about EJs confidence and doesn't want the fans to start chanting for another QB during a game.

I'm going to be labeled a heretic by the EJ faithful for this... But, Eli was viewed as a can't miss prospect deserving of a top 5 selection. EJ was viewed as a fringe 2nd rounder who went 16th overall.

This has all the makings for an epic dumpster fire of a season. Getchya popcorn ready.

Like, for real? Let's use Eli Manning instead of Brady. The reason Eli gets a "break" is bevause he has two rings and is proven. The end.

That could be taken several ways. It could be the ol' Kneejay knock or an indictment on the offensive line... Either way I will say that physically EJ has improved... you can tell he's stronger this year so hopefully he'll stay healthy.

I dont have DirecTv but I have an Xbox One. I'm wondering if I can pay for my friend (who has DirecTv) to get the Sunday Ticket and use his log in and password on my Xbox at my house to watch games.... Anybody think that'll work?

Stats can be moved to sway arguments how you want to sway them. Data can be used to prove climate change and disprove it. It depends on how you look at it. But if you went on EJs film as opposed to stats there is no way anybody could make that argument. In the past 10 years EJ's rookie campaign wasn't in the top 10. He wasn't even the best last year by stats. Also, we don't need anybody to choke on anything just because they disagree, man.