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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
and why is this opinion any more valid than others.....or obvious
clearly dhop is available in a trade
clearly the bills have a need
beane admitted they made a call and anything beyond that he is not allowed to talk about a player under contract with another team
arizona has set a value on dhop, nobody has yet been willing to meet it
there is no immediate deadline.....so the negotiation dance continues
now, where were we.....oh yea, on the way to 200
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he leads the league in drops
espn analytics five thirty eight ranks gabe as the 100th best wr in league
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nfl-receiver-rankings/
it's not all rosy
all i'm saying is currently he is a #3 WR at best and we need an upgrade at #2 WR
i'm not trying to get rid of gabe......i just dont value him as a #2
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gabe davis 48 catches on 93 targets = 51.6%
dawson knox 48 catches on 65 targets = 73.8%
mckenzie 42 catches on 65 targets = 64.6%
stephon diggs 108 catches on 154 targets = 70.1
jamar chase 87 catches on 134 targets 65.0%
tee higgins 74 catches on 109 targets = 67.9%
tyler boyd 58 catches on 82 targets = 70.7%
hayden hurst 52 catches on 68 targets = 76.5
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what are the alternatives for josh ??
stay in pocket and get sacked/injured or throw ball away ......neither is desirable compared to the bills best rusher doing his thing.
improve the OL and maybe he runs less
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beane obj comment is directed at arizona.....like we have other options besides dhop.......which unless obj will sign for under $2 mil...aint happening
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mcclappity should be directing his ire at beane.....if josh had better protection from oline he wouldnt be running as much
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beane admits that 1% of dhop rumors are true
arizona gives dhop permission to seek trade
therefore a deal is imminent and 200 pages are in sight....lol
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gabe davis 48 catches on 93 targets = 51.6%
dawson knox 48 catches on 65 targets = 73.8%
mckenzie 42 catches on 65 targets = 64.6%
stephon diggs 108 catches on 154 targets = 70.1
jamar chase 87 catches on 134 targets 65.0%
tee higgins 74 catches on 109 targets = 67.9%
tyler boyd 58 catches on 82 targets = 70.7%
hayden hurst 52 catches on 68 targets = 76.5
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Sean Payton: Broncos not trading Jerry Jeudy, Courtland Sutton
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2 hours ago, nosejob said:
See! This stupid thread gave me PTSD! Possible Trade Scenario Disorder...Dementia...insert your own D word.🤪
Dhop
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6 hours ago, Shortchaz said:
Now do rounds 2-7
i avoided those....they didnt help my arguement.....lol
2017 - dawkins & milano
2018 - taron johnson & wyatt teller (yea i know)
2019 - singletary & knox
2020- davis, bass, hodgins (yea i know)
and i'm sure you can name alot of misses
seriously tho, there is not a direct coorelation between rookies playing and team success.....of the final 4 conference championship teams, only 1 (cincy) made that top 10 list
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7 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:
I think I last opened up this topic when it was 96 pages. What have I missed in the last 43 pages?
fellowship, laughs, valuable insight....you know, the usual
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2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:
When you have a good team. Your rookies ain’t gonna see much time.
there are so many other ways to acquire and retain talent that hinder rookie playing time that skew the OP metric
trades, free agent, extending your own players
as far as drafting goes, here's a recap of recent first round picks (not to shabby)
2017 - tre white
2018 - josh allen
2018 - tremaine edmunds
2019 - ed oliver
2021 - greg rousseau
2022 - kaiir elam
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7 hours ago, gordong said:
They are asking for a 2nd round pick why exactly would I give up my first? Hell no
Bills fall 7 spots, from pick #27(late 1st) to #34 (early 2nd) , which on the Rich Hill trade value chart nets/ is equivalent to a 3rd round pick.
we still have our other 2nd round pick #59
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seems these guys always need a deadline of some sort
guessing this one is draft day
that puts 300 pages in range
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funny to me that when it was announced that poyer was coming back to the bills......it was immediately followed by lavontae david back to bucs
coincidence ??.....i say no
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i'm just here to get to 200.....lol
seriously, the bills are one WR2 from dominating
dhop is just 1 year older than diggs. he is a legit superstar #1 WR
give josh more time (OL) and 1 more weapon and lookout !!.....all the defense needs to do is get healthy
this needs to be the year of the offense
GO BILLS !
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imo the bills are going to win the super bowl this season
might not be unpopular....but definitely in the minority
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ESPN analytics five thirty eight ranks gabe davis the 100th best WR in NFL......thats like a bottom end #3 wr
the have Diggs ranked 4th best overall
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nfl-receiver-rankings/
the bills clearly need a wr2
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:
arizona is not getting 2nd & a 3rd
cooks just went for a 5th & 6th
heck, if they're not careful, AZ might have to give a pick to unload that contract
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10 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said:
Not as bad as you think. Cap it supposed to go up another 30M next year. With that kind of cap growth - this becomes much less of an issue. Those players will continue to restructure (unless age gets in the way - Von) - and lower the current cap hit - and push it forward into 2025+ where the cap is even BIGGER.
Pushing forward cap hits is a terrible idea when the cap is static. But when it's going up 10-15%/year - this is the game you play.
everything you're saying is true....let me try to make my point a different way
the salary cap is going up $30 mil for all teams.....but the bills have already pushed more dollars into the future than our main opponents. they will be in much better position to improve their roster.
spotrac estimated cap space for 2024:
Bills minus $17 mil (thats over the the cap already)
KC plus $62 (under)
Cincy plus $109 (under)
this is just a generalization....we can quibble about who is or isnt in those cap totals
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Allen / diggs / von combined cap hit for 2023 is $40 mil
Allen / diggs / von combined cap hit for 2024 is $100 mil
this is pretty strong evidence that beane is going for it now
bills are currently right up against the salary cap and have already mortgaged part of our future years
we currently have somewhere in the range of $5-10 mil in avail cap space
that forces beane to make several small incremental upgrades with proven veterans on short term (1 yr) low salary ($2mil) deals
when a superstar high cap player like hopkins is added....it likely means something might need to exit...like say an ed oliver
so i reject the notion the bills aren't going for it.....any more going for it would be reckless
would i take the rams model of winning the super bowl then totally blowing it up a couple years later....hell yea, but there is no guarantee..... how painful is it now to be a rams fan in 2023
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the ball hit gabe davis right in his extended left hand and deflected straight down thru his bread basket and to the ground. id call it a drop.
sauce gardner coverage was so tight that gabes right hand/arm was hindered trying to raise it up and never got it on the ball.
with all the hand checking, gabe never jumped up to high point the ball.
gabe had a mediocre season but supposedly played thru a high ankle sprain most of year.
hope he takes advantage of his opputunities....i feel like one of the new WR's or shakir will outplay him
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dhop has 2 years left on his deal but NONE of it is guaranteed. all his guaranteed money has been paid. his salary in 2023 is $19.45 and $14.915 in 2024.
Arizona is on the hook for a 2023 cap hit of $30.7 mil. if they cut him now his dead money is $22.6 for a savings of $8.1 or they could designate post june 1 and push some into 2024. if they keep him in 2023 his cap hit for 2024 is $26.2 with $11.3 in dead money.
dhop "had" a no trade clause. it was terminated with his PED suspension.
if traded, the new team is on the hook for $19.45 in 2023 and $14.915 in 2024 none of it guaranteed.
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DraftKings Sportsbook has set the Buffalo Bills’ win total for the 2023 NFL season 10.5 wins
in The Stadium Wall
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the over looks good to me.....i like 12-5