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Anybody that follows the Bills closely knows that Tyrod has not progressed over three years. Statistics lie. He is an amazing athlete and classy individual who keeps plays alive but is woefully inaccurate. It was painful watching the same old problems last weekend, hanging the D out to wear down. Peterman is poised, athletic, and accurate. I was amazed in the pre-season. I see the upside.

This is the pussification of America. It started with fun helmets for kids. Do we really think that football is the only sport that causes CTE. Not hockey, wrestling, rugby, nascar or any sport that causes excessive brain sloshing. The fact that ANY parent would deny their children the sheer joy of football on the basis of the improbability of their kids and CTE is causing a nation of p**sies. Ever since I was a baby I had a natural tendency towards smashing into things, especially other boys.

Mudge time! He looks ungainly, but I think he really played well and steady in pre season. He makes no mistakes.

I checked the Bills site, with the official list. No KD or Reich C'mon man!

NEITHER Kenny Davis nor Frank Reich is a member of the Wall of Fame. PROOF POSITIVE THIS IS A JOKE THREAD!

Good god! I can't believe this idiotic thread is still going, while a player with actual credentials like Reggie McKenzie gets 9 yes's and dies. The mere fact of one year disqualifies him. Sustained body of contribution gets on the wall. Period.

In my opinion, consideration should go to Reggie McKenzie first, then Biscuit Bennett. Maybe Teddy Washington. Honestly I thought this was a joke. No offense, but I think that longevity of service to the team is part of the equation.

I think he's a hell of a player, finishes his blocks every time, this mudge I believe.

Not to be derailed...this thread is about Reggie McKenzie, and Reggie McKenzie joining Joe on the Wall. I think Rico was just being Rico, stirring the pot while agreeing. The fact that people ASSUMED Reggie was already up there speaks to the urgency of getting this done, before people forget his worth and he gets crowded out by newer additions.

Thank you for all the positive responses...I really would like to gain momentum. I have no truck with Joe D at all. I think his place on the Wall is well deserved, and he's a happy rewarded Bill. I have always held onto the pride I felt when 'Old Man Reggie' was in his last years and would come sidling up to the line to block with amazing effectiveness for Joe Cribbs and Roland Hooks, just as he had for OJ and my hero Jim Braxton 8 or 10 years earlier. He was a real asset to the Bills for so long...I remember how everyone looked up to him as a leader from'73 forward.

People go on and on about the most inane things on this board, but Reggie can't any traction with Bills fans? Neophytes! The Bills did not start in 1990. A member of the most feared offensive line in NFL history! C'mon!!

Watching old highlights, I remain convinced that because of his effectiveness, longevity, and iconic status as a Bill, Reggie McKenzie belongs on the Wall of Fame. Please remember how hard he charged every play well into the 80's, for bad teams. This guy left it on the field every down. I really believe it would mean the world to him. He was as much an icon of this team for hard work as Darryl Talley, ask Darryl Talley. When he came into the league, who did everyone on the team look to as the leader.

I agree Kirby. I must say, I always respected Jim Monos, and hoped he would be retained. I'd like to say thanks for the service and effort to Doug Whaley, too.

Just wait until you price surged! Definitely falls into the "be careful what you wish for" category. In San Fran, where these guys are from, they are practically defunct.

In Madison, Wisconsin Uber has been responsible for multiple sexual harassments, and at least two traffic deaths. Surge pricing cost 108 dollars to a hotel, so I called a cab which cost 23 dollars on the way back. Be careful what you wish for.

I hope so. He has great smarts and is a locker room asset. I love having a local kid on the roster. In 2016 he appeared in all 16 games, notching 87 tackles, one sack, nine pass breakups and one interception. He graded out as Pro Football Focus’ No. 37-ranked safety. That is not bad, but expensive... so hopefully he returns.

In answer to questions and comments: -I would use him in substitution at OLB (smart and adaptable), but primarily as a special teams beast. With a year or two, experience, and bulk he could be a solid Ray Bentley (even wears a mullet) or stellar Conlan type. -I post it here as a way to get on radar and generate discussion. I'm sure SOMEONE at OBD tracks these threads. I will also post on the official site. -He is projected in the 3-4th rounds. He is already on the Packers radar, so I'd grab him in the 3rd. -He missed two mid October games with the foot injury. 8 tackles in season finale for "Paul Bunyan's Axe" against Minnesota 8 tackles in Big 10 Championship Game. 5 tackles and a sack in Cotton Bowl. So he finished the season super strong, and plays well in weather. I live in Madison, and have tracked this guy all year. Thanks for your consideration.

Agreed. What you come away with is that he really wants to play football. One of THOSE guys. Obviously he'll want to bulk up a bit for the NFL.

This guy keeps coming, never gives up and would be a perfect Bill. "Voted team captain. Known for intensity and all-out love for the sport. Instinctive. Diagnoses zone blocks quickly and darts through gaps into backfield to muddy backside cutback lanes. Works to keep outside shoulder uncovered for contain responsibilities against the run. Emotional leader for the Badgers. Wrap-up tackler looking to thud"

After reading many well considered opinions...I say, with some reluctance, let Tyrod go to free up cap money to keep as many of out FA's as possible. If he reduces his price substantially, keep him. I am quite sure that Cardale has all the tools, including the confidence and the game not being too big for him. Also lost in all the analysis I have read here, THAT YOUNG MAN IS GOING TO BE DURABLE. Witness some of the sacks and pounding he took, he bounced up and was joking with the Jets (same in pre-season). Frankly, mentally, confidence wise I see a young Jim Kelly. Physically I see Big Ben.

I agree with your assessments, mostly, although I disagree that players don't want to be here. Glamour hounds obviously don't. I think, given Gilmour's unwillingness to wrap up on his tackles, that he is NOT worth the top dollars he is asking for. I just thought the dynamic at the Pro Bowl was interesting and potentially telling. Thanks for putting up with my 'newbie-ish' post.

It was interesting to note that in all the coverage of the Pro Bowl on the Bills Official site, that Gilmore was not a part of the group. The other 4 guys were always grouped and a unit unto themselves, kind of pal-ling around and generally acting like teammates. I doubt if it was a conscious decision by the powers that be , but rather that Gilmore just didn't want to hang with his teammates. Does this portend his willingness to rejoin the team?

"So LeSean, are you picking the Patriots to win?" LeSean: Screws up his face, "I could never take the Patriots. I'm from Buffalo! Let's not carried away, now!"

Inhouse: Sanjay Lal!! Externally: I'd bring back Chan...for all his faults, he's a good OC...and he said upon leaving that of all his coaching stops, the Bills were the only one he would still root for.

This is a great lucid post...thank you!