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lol..no biggie man. I really don't care about orakpo since he's not going to be a bill anyway.

LOL...you're cracking me up. First off, regarding the asterisk (I'll assume you know what that is). In your other post you said you were skeptical of my scenario re: Hardy b/c he's going back to Ole Miss as if you were giving me information I wasn't aware of. Did you even read the asterisk at the bottom of my sig? Secondly. Did you even CLICK on the link I provided? You're asking me to give you names of player from UT that have produced in the NFL when I just finished providing you with the link of players...do you want me to spell out their names as well on here? I don't even know why I bother sometimes.

1. can you read the asterisk? 2. why is vince young my boy? 3. Who cares what Collins wants. What do the Titans want? We'll see. I stand by my prior statement: Saying that UT can't produce defensive players is a misguided statement. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/college?letter=t There are some pretty good players on that list.

Another misguided statement. Why are you skeptical about defensive players coming out of UT?

why do i keep hearing this? Talk about spreading rumors. Your statement may have SOME validity with offensive players, but it doesn't hold weight when it comes to defensive players coming out of UT.

I have to agree with the other poster re: Jenkins. The final 6/7 games or so, he was absolutely nonexistent for them.

I don't agree at all. It would be foolish to let Stroud go after his contract is up imo (barring any setback).

Hmm..I personally wouldn't be a huge fan of trading up since we have quite a few holes to fill. This team doesn't go crazy in FA, so the draft is critical for us. Trading up with the Bills becomes a "can't miss" act that if we do miss sets us back years. Since it appears that Hardy will not be declaring, I have to adjust my offseason scenario for the bills. Orakpo will most likely be gone by the time we pick. I wouldn't mind Brown at 11. Another scenario could be trading down and drafting Michael Johnson from GT (not sure yet though on how I feel about that). Or we could simply take a LB at 11. I'm going to have to give this some thought later.

I agree completely.

Good post. Looking at the players that are available in this draft, and our specific needs, I really can't see how we can not go DE in the first. TE is a need, but there isn't going to be one that's worth a #11 pick. Center is a need, but I think I would vomit in my mouth if we took a Center that high. I could perhaps see us taking a LB at 11..that is the only other position that we clearly need to fill. But then again, there's still a lot to be seen with what we do with crowell or in FA. If Brown is there at 11 I think we take him. If he's gone by 11, along with Orapko for sure, then I could see us trying to trade down. If we can't trade down, that's when I could see us drafting a LB that high. One thing that scares me is how much money we currently have tied up in crappy DE's (Denney/Kelsay)...my question to you is as follows: Even though DE is a clear need (in terms of production), do you think that the contracts we have with Denney, Schobel, Kelsay will deter this team from drafting a DE at 11 and paying him the relatively high contract he'll demand? I hope not.

Ya, this is screwing with my master plan (lol). Coffman might def. not make it out of the first now.

I've mentioned him in other threads. I've only seen Johnson play 3 times, and what I did see I loved. However, I understand those who aren't thrilled with him, b/c of his lack of playing time at the college level. Johnson reminds me more of Kearse than Freeney. I'm on the bubble with drafting him. I would personally prefer Brown over Johnson, but it depends on who's there when we pick and if we're able to trade down or not. Good post though.

1. Question. Have you seen either Greg Hardy or Brown play? You're kinda twisting what i said around. I never said that Brown wouldn't make it in a 4-3, i'm simply saying that Hardy (in my opinion--and many others) is better suited for a 4-3 than Brown. (for the NFL) 2. Gamble? What pick in the draft isn't a gamble? I'm basing my pick purely on upside and raw talent. And in my opinion, Hardy is the second most talented player at DE for a 4-3 in this draft. None of his injuries have been severe. He's still young. 3. I never said to pick Hardy at 11. I would look to take him by trading down to the mid-to-high 20's and taking him there and getting an extra 2nd in the process.

See that? Don't you think I freaking know that? You go through the trouble of posting that Stroud could gain weight and transition to a position he's never played before in the NFL. I'm sure Kyle Williams would be great in a 3-4 too, right? McCargo? Oh, how about Ellis? I'm sure he would make a great DE in this 3-4 scheme, being the fanthom weight he is. You're asking Schobel to gain weight without realizing that by gaining weight, you're taking his biggest attribute away-his quickness. Then you continue to babble about weight not having to do anything with it..and that it's "talent". No sh--. Here's something you're apparently not aware of: there's 3-4 talent, and there's 4-3 talent. Guess which we have? And for you to continue on with your fantasies of a 3-4 with this current roster is truly exemplary of your football IQ.

LOL. Wow. You're living in a fantasy world. Every point you made, when taken on a case-by-case basis may be logical to you on paper, but it's not going to translate to real life scenarios. When broken down, your argument is essentially summed up as follows: To be successful in a 3-4, buffalo's current defensive players would just have to gain weight.

lol. God, what a waste of pure talent that would be in our scheme.

I like evertte brown, however, I think brown is better suited for a 3-4 defense in the NFL (which our defense is not). To me, Hardy with his size, would be a perfect pure 4-3. He's at around 260 last time I checked and can bulk up still 10 pounds more easily as he continues to mature. Hardy reminds me of osi U. from the Giants or a Gaines Adams, except much more athletic, and much more explosive. My only concern may be injuries, but none of them have been really serious. Hardy is a beast, Period.

LOL...i like your humor. Ya, i heard about mays on espn earlier today. That'll shake up the draft a bit in the first round.

I would be willing to do that. Then I would just take the best WR available in the 3rd. Maybe a Brian Robiskie from tOSU or Austin Collie from BYU; it depends on how the draft goes. Maybe Britt will even be there in the third, who knows.

I love your enthusiasm, but you're way off in my opinion. To begin with, Stroud isn't a NT, and although he may be able to perform as a NT, his ability would be compromised. Next, having Denney/Schobel as ends on a 3-4 would be disastrous..it's already bad enough in a 4-3. they're too small to be ends on a 3/4..if anything, we would have to move them to OLB's in a 3-4 (unless that's what you meant in your post). To have a 3-4, it would take, other than Schobel, a completely new DL, and even schobel wouldn't be ideal in a 3-4...and as for the linebackers, we would need two OLB's since I wouldn't be thrilled with the prospect of seeing denney/kelsay and co. as linebackers. Transitioning to a 3-4 would be a horrible idea for this team. We're better off simply improving our current scheme, which I (and many others) believe can be done by getting a pass rushing DE to compliment Schobel.

On my draft board, he's the 2nd best DE prospect for the NFL - and he will be a bill.

We don't have the player personnel for the 3-4. We don't have the defensive coordinator for the 3-4. We don't have the head coach for the 3-4. No defense will succeed w/o a pass rush, and almost any kind of defense will be successful with a pass rush. Hence, we should worry about getting a pass rush before worrying about getting a new scheme.

Wasn't Maybin a redshirt sophomore? In my opinion, Maybin had one solid year, and is certainly a good prospect, but whatever team drafts this guy, they better be prepared for a hell of a learning curve/transition to the NFL with him. He's at least a 2 year project..just to get to starting caliber in the NFL (in my opinion). I saw Maybin several times this season..and I don't know..he just looks soft in my opinion and undeveloped for the NFL. It would be ludicrous to take him anywhere in the 1st round..imo. What you say about contracts could be an explanation for him delcaring...

I'd have to disagree. There is no way I could see Maybin going top 15. Too much depth at DE in this draft that's ready to go to the next level and produce a lot quicker than Maybin. The absolute highest I could see Maybin going in this draft is high 2nd round. As of right now, he's simply not cut to be an NFL DE. He needs to put on at least 20 pounds, or be drafted by a 3-4 defense and tansition to LB...and there are players in this draft that are ahead of him at that position as well. I honestly think it was foolish of him to declare. We'll see.

lol. ya, sorry about that. (long night). Week*