Thurman#1

It doesn't substantiate squat. It's related, but it's not like if you don't draft guys, there's no other way to get players, the draft is the only way. How thrilled the Chiefs must be that they spent 2018 6th on Tremon Smith 2019 2nd on Mecole Hardman 2021 5th on Cornell Power 2022 2nd on Skyy Moore 2023 2nd on Rashee Rice 2024 1st on Xavier Worthy 2025 4th on Jalen Royals Look at the massive results they've reaped off all that WR effort!! Maybe Royals will be sensational. Or not. Same with Worthy. Maybe. When on the field, Rice has looked good. But there's not a lot of production there. Their terrific QB, though, has made things work despite that. Which should sound familiar. That could definitely be the reason. Or not. Maybe it was a good opportunity at the right price and the right time. Point is, though, that Beane DID spend a third on a WR, Amari, and it's not counted in this method of looking at WR draft results. Nor is our using a 1st rounder on Stefon Diggs, again something that we did do despite it not showing up if you use the method for looking at draft results used in this thread.

And the third they spent on Amari?

Probably WR, safety and LB if Milano isn't healthy. None are awful.

I don't believe that for a second. They're a cerebral group. And if you really want someone, you've decided he's your #1, one of the first things you do after that is game out what you do if he's gone. It just doesn't make sense that they haven't done that, well before the draft. They've got a board, they'd just follow it. We heard this about CB a year or two ago, that the reason they picked Elam was that McDuffie was gone and they "panicked." It's ridiculous. I am quite willing to believe that they wanted McDuffie and were deeply disappointed. But that they panicked is ridiculous. They'd put together their board. They grabbed the next guy on it. It was a mistake and he didn't work out, that's clear, but it wasn't panic that caused the problem. Making wrong decisions? Yeah, everybody does, and they certainly have. This could be one, as could any decision. But just not deciding in advance what they'd do if their guy is gone? Nah. Not gonna happen. Enjoy the free time, Gunner. Fabulous stuff.

D.J. Moore? Steve Smith? Beane's Carolina career goes back to 1998. The highest he's ever picked a WR is 24th, with Moore. Not so surprising, then.

Dunno. Probably a few. We'll see.

If that's what he's trying to show, I don't think it shows that. Of course teams run more in January. And of course when opponents are ahead they run more. Generally teams will give up more run yards in a loss , as down the end the other team will be running at a higher percentage if they're ahead. This argument might show slightly less causation. It doesn't show none. Teams that are ahead by seven ... are ahead. Late in the game teams that are ahead are going to run more. Not as much as they'd run if they were ahead by 20. But more than they'd run if they were behind. It's absolutely showing some causation. DaQuan sure did look pretty done last year. I'm hoping there was some reason, but age-related regression seems the most likely cause. Marino thought that bringing in Sanders meant that the Bills are likely to be moving Carter over to more 1-tech this year. That seems possible. And bringing in Deone ought to mellow the "we must have a giant 1-tech or the sky is falling" crowd.

You're likely going to be unhappy for a long long long time, hopefully through several championships.

Greatly doubt it. The tag price even this year would be over $14M. I think if he won't sign they'll let him look for something better and come back if our offer starts to look good to him. That's his standard procedure. We have a ton of weapons outside of Cook. They may not be up to your standard, but we were the #2 scoring offense in football last year, and Kincaid and Coleman were badly held back by injuries. When you've got Josh Allen throwing the ball, everyone scares you. If you've instead got someone like Tua, you'd better bring in some weapons.

Yup. And yeah, this too. A day or two of camp at the most. Wait and see. Holding out after year three is really rare.

So your argument is that things will be different this year, and that all of the differences will obviously be negative and that things therefore will obviously get worse? That's just as lazy. Maybe the differences will be that Coleman and Kincaid, healthy, will take major steps upward, and that Palmer will bring in significantly more yards and scores than Hollins, our most productive non-Coleman, non-Shakir receiver. The offense has been terrific for years now.

Roster malpractice? Puh-leeze! One of the elite offenses last year and they've added to the receiver room with Joshua Palmer strengthening a very young, developing group. Just because you want something doesn't mean it's malpractice for them not to get it. The passing offense was good last year and again, they've added Palmer, and Coleman and Kincaid healthier and savvier, they should be fine. Roster malpractice is a wild exaggeration.

I don't think so. He's been in and out and it does seem to connect with how much he concentrates on it in the offseason. After I believe year 3 he mentioned dropping it into the bucket on the long ball as an offseason goal, and he absolutely did get a lot better. He's been up and down with this and he made some big longer throws last year, not including the giant throws mentioned above. I think it's as simple as the fact that fans are way more focused on this than the Bills are, and that's why the board grouses about needing major speed while Beane and the office don't think it's a major need.

This is ALSO what Landon Jackson going head to head with the #4 overall pick looks like. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_qv3fO-Qzi4 Just sayin'.

Ahhhhh. That makes much more sense.