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Agreed about the defense and turnovers. But no, last year's offense was much more consistent, and just plain better. A lot better so far. Last year we had three games all season where we scored 20 points or less. Hell, we scored 29 with Trubisky at QB in the last game. This year, four games. So far. Last year eight offensive turnovers total, and only one game with more than one. This year? Suffice it to say that we've been worse. Inconsistency far beyond what the offense showed last year.
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Tua isn't bottom tier, nor is Dalton. Nor Rodgers, though maybe he's approaching it. The fact is, only about 1/3 of the QBs in the league are top tier. Most teams face groups like that, a third top tier and two-thirds who aren't. There are exceptions, especially in divisions with a great QB group, but this is how it looks, on average. Dunno. But everyone should. There is no one stat, beyond wins and losses, of course, that tells the story perfectly. But when it comes to isolating the performance of an offensive or defensive unit, season yards may be the best one. Of course, you have to look at all the stats, at the whole story. But total yards is absolutely a key stat.
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Overall they've been good, very good, really. But really inconsistent. That's what they've got to iron out. One bad game in the playoffs and the season's over. Part of it is that we look like a different team when we have Kincaid and Josh Palmer on the field. But will we, when it counts? It's an interesting season, but I feel much less confident for later in the year than I did the last couple of years. I could see us winning the Lombardi, and I could see us out in the first round.
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Nah, he'd have to average more than he's doing now, and he's doing great. They'll rest him when they can. Can't see it. Great season, though.
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We're Heading to Pittsburgh... The Stadium is Haunted
Thurman#1 replied to ryguy101's topic in The Stadium Wall
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Christian Benford named week 13 NFLPA MVP
Thurman#1 replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall
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Yes, big misses. Or more specifically, Elam is a big miss, and Coleman looks that way more and more. But Coleman is NOT a #1, he is a #2. But not only CAN you miss this badly on #1s and #2s, but everyone does. Non-busts run at less than 50% in the first round. And a higher percentage of those non-busts go in the top of the round than the bottom. How do Felix Anudike-Uzomah and Clyde Edwards-Helaire look as KC first rounders?
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Collective Failure in Houston-- Jim Kubiak BN
Thurman#1 replied to Casey D's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think they do. They all think that the good things are all Josh and the bad ones all McDermott. That's an exaggeration, but not a vast one. -
Cole Bishop took two Tampa Bay points right off the board
Thurman#1 replied to Thurman#1's topic in The Stadium Wall
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I took a look and nobody seems to have mentioned this. Including the game announcers. On Tampa's second attempt at a 2 point conversion, Sterling Shepard made the catch but out of bounds. But he would've been inbounds except for the beautiful play by Bishop. Shepard went up two or three yards from the boundary and was going to come down in bounds but Bishop was right behind him and he just carried him right out of bounds so he couldn't get even one foot in. Happened at 13:35 in the fourth quarter, and held the Tampa Bay lead to one point instead of three. It was a really nice play. Didn't turn out to be important. But it could have. Beautiful play with good awareness, body control, speed and strength.
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It's pretty rare to be really bad at defensive total run yards, because if your defense isn't great, your offense must be very good if you're winning a Super Bowl. And if you're ahead, opponents will tend to pass more to catch up, leaving low total rush yards as a result. Having said that, the 2019 Chiefs won the Super Bowl while allowing 2051 rush yards (7th worst) and - a better indicator of how good your run defense actually is - allowed 4.9 YPC, 4th worst in the league. The 2018 Pats lofted the Lombardi while allowing 1803 yards (11th worst), but again, people were trying catch up and they faced few run attempts. But in terms of YPC, they allowed 4.9 YPC, fourth worst in the league. Didn't bother going further back than that. You can absolutely win a Super Bowl while having a bad rush defense. It's not ideal, clearly. But doable.
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Yes, you're correct, you can indeed win without a good defense. How did it work out for the Bills? Not as well as it worked out for the Chiefs a couple of years and the, Rams etc. The fact that it worked out for some teams but not for the Bills -- well, it only proves that it didn't work out for the Bills. And the Bills had really good defenses several of those years, actually. Some of those years they had serious waves of injuries around the playoffs, and other times they were good but not good enough to stop the Chiefs in the playoffs with Mahomes playing at absolutely historic levels. You can argue this D is the worst. But they're getting better, particularly at passing defense. When Bosa gets the cast off, when and if Oliver comes back and when Dorian gets better at the role he's already playing pretty well this past week at pass rush schemes, we could easily get a lot better. When TJ and DaQuan get not just able to play but back at previous levels. It's a shame Hoecht is out, it really is. But there's every chance we'll be a lot better. We were awful against Miami. But not so awful against Tampa and pretty dang solid against KC. They absolutely have a shot. That simply isn't a question. Again, Vegas has them as the third most likely winner. That's likely a bit optimistic. But not much. They're 7-3, and beating the good teams.
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Yup, And no other teams with great QBs are like that ... except all of them. When the great QB has a bad game, yeah, the team's not real likely to win. That's kinda the NFL. I mean, you're right, that's how we look. But I mean, when Mahomes had a bad game, the Eagles win the Super Bowl last year and the AFC championship against the Bengals about three years ago. Yeah, fair enough, big ask. But it could happen, Ed playing near how he did before. Or not. And no, Shaq was playing significantly better than average, he was playing well.
