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Thats one of the best Avatars I have seen LeviF91...
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Um, no. Like Alpha, you guys are stuck on a "name", and you associate that "name" to a self opinionated ranking or "value".
And since the Bills went after such a "highly ranked" QB, you assume the ONLY reason the Bills went after said QB was due to the QB being so "highly ranked".
Then you turn around and justify your argument by declaring since the Bills did NOT draft a QB earlier in the draft, it only makes sense they are truly comfortable with who they already have.
Let me apply your train of thought to a different position. Since the Bills did NOT draft a LT, nor did they acquire one via trade or free agency, then it must mean the Bills are truly comfortable with who they have at that position. Correct?
Except Nix/Gailey did state, before the draft, the LT (and the QB) position was a problem that needed to be addressed. But they wanted starters, and they were not going to overpay to acquire them. They also said all the problems were not going to be addressed in one year.
And the failure of the Bills to acquire players to fill those positions is NOT necessarily a hearty endorsement of the players they already have, but more of an admittance nobody else has met their criteria.
Again, it's not about McNabb, it's about the Bills trying to acquire a starting QB.
If the Bills were truly comfortable about Brohm, Edwards, or Fitzpatrick starting, they would not be wasting time trying to acquire one.
Obviously we are not going to be in agreement here...but hey, thats what a message board is all about and I commend you for keeping it about the topic and sticking with points you feel are valid as our side has done the same. For that sir, you get a beer
In terms of the topic of discussion, we clearly see things differently...some others see it the way I see it, and others see it the way you see it...however, the biggest leaks in your ship are:
1. Nix and Gailey have both publicly stated exactly what we are saying.
2. They chose to pass on the top 5 QB's in this draft, even when getting them late presented little risk and high value
3. They passed on stealing Campbell from Washington for a mid pick 2 years from now
4. They didnt attempt to pursue any of the other top FA or available QB's and only went after the only ELITE QB available
So, while you keep hanging your hat solely on the fact we went after McNabb, you are choosing to ignore these very apparent holes in your side of this...
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Damn! The Bills shoulda grabbed this guy last season - he'll be an All-Pro in w/in 3 years.
LOL...I love the conviction Senator...just think it lies with the wrong player...
I dont mean to rain on the parade, but he definitely will not make the active roster...PS maybe, but not one of the 3 active QB's.
1. McCoy isnt going anywhere obviously.
2. DelHomme was just signed for a sizeable contract and most certainly starts the season as a starter as Holmgren doesnt want McCoy starting week 1.
3. Seneca Wallace is a very good backup and a Mike Holmgren guy who he traded for. Delhomme isnt going to be in Cle for more than a year or two, especially with McCoy there and Seneca was brought in to be a quality #2 which he is. No way they cut him this year...
Thats 3 QB's and no room for your boy outside of the PS.
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While you're at it, can you help Alphadouche7 spell "rediculous"?
LMAO...Hey "John Cocksmall", are you really giving a spelling lesson after the countless incoherent gibberish posts you have made (which have plenty of their own errors)
Is this how you compensate for your name? Make you feel like a "bigger" man to puff your chest over a word spelled wrong on a sports message board to help validate your pointless posts?
LOL...you go right ahead if you need that to "float your boat"...just let me know when you actually make a valid post on here and we'll talk then...
This thread is hilarious...Spelling and grammer lessons on a sports message board...classic, now I have seen it all
PS: To the OP: Sometimes the correct use of the word is "core" and you are misunderstanding the use of the word. If you are talking about the group collectively = corps...if someone is saying we have a great "core" of such and such, they could mean a solid group of guys inside the collective group they are referring too...so its not always used wrong. For example: We have a great RB corps...We have a great core of LB's to build on (referring to some solid guys inside the group of LB's)...there is a distinct difference and each has its own application...
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It's not about McNabb. YOU think the name is relevant because YOU place such a high value on McNabb.
I'll post this in the simplest form possible. It is NOT about the Bills going after QB xxxxx, it's about the Bills going for a QB. Period.
How would you feel if you found if the Bills went after Campbell?
Go back and read Red's post #50. He gets it more than you do.
Thats just it...it is about the name MCNABB...dont you get that? They did NOT pursue the other average at best QB's that were available like Campbell, Vick, Bulger, Delhomme, Garcia, etc, etc...they ONLY went out and tried to acquire a TOP 10 QB who is not only a clear substantial upgrade over an unproven QB, but also an upgrade over about 75% of the starters in this league...
How is ths so complicated for you? I mean the FO cant be any clearer on this...they passed up Campbell for dirt cheap, Cluassen, McCoy, LeFevoru, Pike, etc, etc many times even when there was great value in where they could have gotten them on draft day. Clearly, they feel they were not significant upgrades over the potential we have in our QB's on this roster. Nix has even publicly stated that he did not feel any of the QB's outside of Bradford had the same potential as Brohm...
Come on man...this isnt that complicated. I mean, obviously a top 10 QB gives an a better chance to win, but that does not indicate they dont think Brohm can develop into a good QB in this league. I guarantee you that if we had gotten McNabb, Trent would have likely seen the door over Fitz, Brohm would be the guy groomed to replace him in 3 years (and if he didnt show improvement, another young guy would be drafted next year or the year after), and Fitz would be most likely kept as a backup.
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Problem was that "hot" start was not overly "hot" to begin with.
4 games, 4 TDs.
The Bills went 4-0 because the teams they played were crappy.
Hey look, something we totally agree on...lmao.
Yeah, his play in the 4-0 start was poor in big chunks of those games with Sea being the only game he played solid in.
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You and Alpha should not be focusing on the name "McNabb". The name of the QB is irrelevant. I mentioned McNabb because he was the only QB that was considered to be starting quality, in that he could come to Buffalo and start immediately.
The point was the Bills attempted to sign a QB to be the starter. If the Bills were really comfortable with who they already had, they would not be willing to sign another QB.
Come on man...this is so rediculous...NO GM ON EARTH WOULD HAVE CHOSEN AN UNPROVEN QB TO START THE SEASON OVER MCNABB. This is by far your craziest and stupidest argument against how the staff feels about Brohm. McNabb is a top 10 talent, and if you can get him for your team when you have no proven starter, you do so. That is NO, and I repeat, NOOOOO, indication of how the staff feels about the potential of their young guys.
I don't have an issue with your doubts in Brohm, its all opinnion and discussion, but this one you keep bringing up about McNabb is just silly...
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The funny thing is, the fans in GB didn't cut him, the coaching staff did. I put stock in their point of view. Apparently they thought he offered nothing after only one year.
I love how some over simplify what really went down in GB. The tunnel vision some people on here is astonishing, especially given how cheap Brohm is for us compared to his potential and how this is a total win win for the Buffalo Bills. It gives us a chance of developing a franchise guy who is first round talented with little financial commitment while we draft and develop players at our other many many holes. There is very LITTLE risk here and potential for a big reward.
GB and Brohm:
1 GB placed him on PS because they couldnt carry 3 active QB's given needs at other positions, and when you are a SB contender you have to do what gives you the best chance to win, and carrying 3 QB's while remaining thin at another area of need is not what teams concerned about winning do.
2 Flynn is much better than posters who only know big names give him credit for
3 GB loves Flynn
4 Flynn and Brohm were drafted together and one needed to backup Rodgers immediately and they felt Flynn adjusted faster to the speed of the game
5 Several teams came into grab Brohm off he PS, but he chose us because we offered the best chance to compete since we didnt have an entrenched starter
6 GB hoped to stash him there and then offered him a contract to be on the active roster despite not having room for him just to keep him when teams came in to grab him
7 GB said they had never seen a player pick up the play book as fast as he did
8 Brohm was highly productive in a pro style system
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1. This coming year will be Brohm's third year in the NFL. When the Bills snagged him, Brohm was NOT a rookie.
2. People on this board watch preseason games so they can see how players are doing. Are you assuming Packer fans do not?
3. People on THIS board are passing judgment on Brohm based on a SINGLE SOLITARY game. Yet, somehow those Bills fans know more than the Packer fans?
This is another area where I think you are missing the boat...some casual fans on here who know nothing of Brohm outside of Buffalo may be doing this, but the ones who have supported his acquisition from the get go are basing their desires to see him play based on his potential, not the one game against Atl.
And as far as brohm in preseason...he barely played...you act like he got 3 quarters of work each game. And this last year, he wasnt getting any reps with the first and second units as the two guys ahead of him were entrenched at QB1 and QB2...
I have several Packer fan friends, and they all say the same thing. They didnt get to see enough of him and wished they would have kept him because they hated losing a 2nd round pick for literally nothing.
And I dont understand with your fascination with putting so MUCH emphasis on a QB's development in his first 1 and half years in the league, especially one who never got any real experience on the field to develop and adjust to the speed of the game.
I don't care what argument you come up with, there isnt any logical point you can make that will convince me that this staff doesnt currently know more than GB about where Brohm is right now than where he was last off season.
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Isn't this what we've been doing for the last 5 seasons? Plug in the guy that gives us the best chance to win now (Fitz) and let's try to win more games than we lose this year.
I saw an NFL Films thing the other day and a guy was in the stands with a sign that read "We are on the 18th year of our 5 year rebuilding program". I can relate.
I can respect where you are coming from, we are all tired of rebuiliding. However, being tired of rebuilding doesnt change the fact that we are rebuilding in essence. This team is very young at many skill positions and is being retooled by a new staff in new schemes and requires new personnel. So, as frustrated as we all are, plugging in Fitz to hope to squeak another win or two out (which I am not even sure he could get us the most wins of our 3 QB's) doesnt make sense unless he shows the promise to be our long term guy. Lets face it, he isnt leading us to the playoffs at this point.
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I want Brohm to start but the thing is we don't really have time to develop a Qb. We need one now. Hopefully he can do it.
Not quite sure what you mean by this...I mean who ever has time to develop a QB in todays win now NFL? And, this is a rebuilding team under a new regime, if there ever was a text book example of when to develop a QB, then the 2010 Bills would be that example.
We are a young team across the board, have a new regime, have made the playoffs in forever, and lots of young players with promise who have yet to really get on the field to show what they can do...this is the perfect year to try and develop a QB...
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alrite guys... I am a fantasy addict... live it. love it. can;t get enough of it...
post your top 5 picks in order you would select them... and then for the Bills twist add which Bills player would would select first and in which round.
*** I am aware and expect MANY "No Bills, in any round" calls... or an Andre Reed throwback... but lets giv'er hell.
1) C Johnson
2) Ray Rice
3) AP
4) MJD
5) A Rodgers
Bills: CJ Spiller on a 8-9th round flier. Perhaps earlier pendind on my RB situation at that given point.
You didnt provide enough information to determine the top 5...you need to know if its also a points per reception leauge too. I wont even play in a league anymore that doesnt have a points per reception scoring system. The reason being, its way more challenging and allows you to find value. It makes all the positions more balanced in terms of scoring.
So, if it is PPR, then AJ has to be in the top 5. I think I would go CJ, AP, MJD, Rice, AJ...QB's are deep and the kind of production Rodgers can put up can be found in Brees, Manning, Brady, Favre, and even Romo...so, even though I think Rodgers is the first or second best QB, there are several not far off from him which to me decreases his value.
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Amazing - two weeks ago you were clamoring, "OMFG, the Bills MUST draft an elite QB (specifically Clausen) or we are DOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!", and now, in one of the fastest 'about-faces' I've ever seen on TSW, you're a Brohm fan!
Meanwhile, the incredibly prescient Senator was probably the very first on TSW to proclaim that the Bills will eschew a high-round, high-priced, unproven college QB (and probable lengthy holdout) and put their future in Brohm's hands...
Link 1 - The Incredibly Prescient Senator
Link 2 - More Senatorial Prescience
Anyway, welcome aboard - nice to have you on the Bills/Brohm Bandwagon!
BTW - don't know specifically how Nix had him ranked, but here's what College Football News said about BB prior to the '08 draft...
Brian Brohm, QB Louisville - The brother of former New York Jet Jeff Brohm was groomed to be a pro passer. He's as NFL ready as any quarterback prospect having been a star for his entire career. The pressure was on from day one to produce, and he did. He's not the greatest athlete and his arm is just average, but he can make the throws needed. The big issue will be his durability. While he's an abnormally quick healer, he suffered a few major injuries throughout his career and can't be counted on for a full 16-game NFL slate. He took his lumps in a disappointing senior season, at least for Louisville, and that could be a good thing; he never quit on his team during a dud year. CFN Projection: Late First Round
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LOL...I think I was the first to tell everyone we would not take a QB this year in the first half of the draft, if at all, because we already had a promising prospect in Brohm and it wouldnt make sense until we knew for sure what he could do...
There...battle lines drawn...not lets fight over who was first...lmao
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I dont think anyone gets cut personally...Brown will be a PS QB this year. If Brown finds some way to shine (which he wont because he wont get any reps with Trent, Fitz, and Brohm all getting the reps to win the starting gig), then maybe he ends up as the 3rd QB with one of the other three cut.
The only way Brohm wont be the #1 QB week 1 is if someone clearly and decisively outplays him. Fitz has very little value outisde of a backup QB because of his limited upside. Trent at this point has limited potential himself from what he has shown on the field. For them to roll with him over Brohm, he is going to finally have to take command of this offense and go out and play high level football and put some points on the board, something he has never been able to do thus far.
Brohm on the other hand posses something the others dont have...a lot of potential with no chance to play yet. If the race is close, I assure you they will go with Brohm because he represents a chance to develop into our franchise QB while the other guys need to make big steps forward in their game at this point to dispell the belief that they are better suited as backups because of all the chances they have already had on the field.
My final depth chart:
1. Brohm
2. Trent
3. Fitz
PS: Brown
Fitz to me is in the most danger to be cut if Brown does win a spot, because Trent has more upside than him still.
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Your adoration for Brohm is known, but this post is a classic case of spin.
Those fans don't know much about him? They know more than we do.
Others talk about him as if he was there for more than 1.5 years? They did get to see him for 2 training camps, and that's 2 more than we got see from him here.
"He has been so far off the radar, even in GB because of the emergence of Rodgers ..."
Are you honestly trying to stay that GB literally FORGOT about Brohm because Rodgers panned out? Seriously?
But they paid attention to the seventh round pick Flynn?
"NO ONE, not even the GB Packers staff, really knows where he is at in his development."
"In fact, our staff is about the only people who can really say for sure if the kid is progressing or not as they have seen him how he is now in practice."
Oh, come on. Brohm spent 2 training camps in GB, and the coaches there got a first hand view of how the kid played in preseason. They know what plays were called, and they know he reacted during those plays.
But only the Buffalo staff knows anything about him because of some OTA's?
Let's see how he reacts when the pads are on, and they are hitting.
Having him running around in shorts playing catch with the WR won't tell the staff a whole lot regarding his ability to play during a game.
Yeah, the Bills were so confident with those 3 they contacted the Eagles about trading for McNabb.
I like Brohm (at this point) because he is not Edwards or Fitzpatrick, but I think this is Brohm's last chance.
Either he stands up and shows the Bills he CAN lead this team* forward, or I expect the Bills will be looking for a QB next off season.
*Winning the QB battle will not cut it. He needs to play like a franchise QB.
LMAO at you comparing McNabb to this situation...he would be an upgrade to 75% of the teams in the NFL...no one is saying they are so content with our guys that they would pass up a top 10 QB in this league.
As far as what I said about the fans...I still stand by it. There are several (and I only named a couple) instances that are clear that they didnt pay that much attention to him. And YES, he was off the Radar...Brohm was an inusrance policy for Rodgers and was NEVER going to be given any chance to start his rookie year. It was always going to be Rodgers as he had 3 years to learn the system. Brohm, who didnt adjust to the speed as quickly as Flynn, spent most of his time with the 3rd unit and PS in GB and barely saw the field at all.
And, this crap about how the fans got to see him for 2 training camps...what are you talking about...none of them saw him in training camp, all they got to see was the very limited duty in preseason.
And as far as your so called boast about GB knowing more about where Brohm is RIGHT NOW...how does that even make sense? They have NO IDEA how he has progressed to this point...he hasnt been with the players who play since last training camp as he went onto the PS after that. They have no idea, especially the fans there, where Brohm is right now...clearly, he is further along then he was there as our staff deems him worthy of an open QB competition and a chance to start (so much so that we continuously passed on QB's with potential in the draft).
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OK a lot of concerns surround the offensive side of the ball our QB situation is one of the worst in the NFL, our O-line is one with huge concern, our WR's outside of Evans are unproven HOWEVER I have a very good feeling about our Defense.
Our Secondary is really good (And they proved that last season) and we spent a lot of picks and resources to sure up the run D. OK our 3-4 is new but we have added a lot of players that fit our scheme.
D-line DE- Dwan Edwards/Spencer Johnson OK Johnson was an undersized 4-3 DT but he was one of the better DT's last season in his limited role and the guy has the body type and skill set to be an effective guy off the bench. Edwards was a run-stuffer in Baltimore with an injury issue but if the guy can stay healthy he is a prototypical 3-4 DE who upgrades our Run D.
Other DE- Stroud/Carrington Stroud is coming off a down year, he was suppose to be the anchor of the 4-3 and he just wasn't that so our Run D sucked as a result (Injuries to OLB and Poz also contributed). However Stroud at DE in a 3-4 doesn't really have to be the anchor he is in a less compromised position and can be effective in his new role. Carrington coming off the bench gives our D-line some depth at DE.
NT- Troup and Kyle Williams are the anchors now if Williams can play at a higher weight and if Troup is as good as advertised we are looking decent at NT. Yes this is a concern if Troup under preforms and Williams can't convert to the 3-4 but going into this season I am much more confident in our D-line and its depth then last season.
MLB- Poz and Davis are the starters Davis is a proven 3-4 MLB who is known as a run stuffer, Poz has the size to make the conversion but there is still a question of his conversion ability. Mitchell has the size to play the 3-4 MLB and gives us some depth at the position.
OLB- This is were things get a little iffy right now Schobel and Maybin are the starters now both aren't 3-4 OLB's but Schobel is a proven pass rusher in a 4-3 and Maybin has the body type better suited for the system. Kelsay and Ellis don't inspire much confidence but both could prove effective as depth or as run down players.
So our front 7 is deeper and bigger and we already have a good secondary with McKelvin returning to it. All in all our D should inspire some confidence.
Count me on this band wagon...I have been posting this in other threads too. I think this D has top 10 potential. There are a few doom and gloomers out there like John Cockstonter or whatever the hell his name is that swears no one can rush the passer. Yet people like him are completing ignoring the fact that Maybin is being moved to a position in this D that will let him do just that, Schobel (I think he comes back) can still get to the QB, guys we drafted look like they can get to the QB, Stroud will be more effective as a DE in this system, and most importantly, our Front 7 can be turned loose in this system given the strength of our secondary. Add in how big we got up front, and wow, this D could be really good.
Of course this is dependent on our young guys being able to step in and contribute like Troup, Maybin, Carrington, etc....
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and asked them their thoughts on Brian Brohm. This is what they said. I posted this on buffalobills.com and I thought I would put it on here.
http://www.packerforum.com/packer-fan-foru...rian-brohm.html
The funny thing about their posts is that they actually dont know that much about him or is time there and it shows in their comments...one poster even talked about him being mentored by Brett...he and Brett were never on the team at the same time...others talk about him as if he was there for more than a year and a half...
Thats the thing with Brohm...he has been so off the radar, even in GB because of the emergence of Rodgers instantly in Brohms rookie year, that no one can honestly say what he can or cant do. I will tell you this...NO ONE, not even the GB Packers staff, really knows where he is at in his development. There simply just inst enough info on him as he spent hadly no time within the offense in GB. In fact, our staff is about the only people who can really say for sure if the kid is progressing or not as they have seen him how he is now in practice.
Given the confidence they have in moving forward with him, Trent, and Fitz battling it out, my guess is that they feel he is progressing well and has the potential to lead this team back to being a winning franchise.
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I forgot your the guy that was saying racist things to me a month ago!
HA! Are you serious...racist? I have never said anything racist on this board and am always the first to blast the ignorant ones that do get racist on this board...you pal have me confused with someone else...
PS: You are about the biggest dip S**T on this board now...does that count?
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Haven't seen this posted....
I gotta feel after Gailey on Sirius today, how they have talked since the draft and Morts report, this is Brohm's job to lose. I also feel they want Brown to grow and challenge for the position later on or take over if Brohm can't do it.
that is a Win win situation in my book.
Ok, im confused...did I miss something here? Are you now a supporter of Brohm at QB after you spent all off season spouting off from you backside about bad he is and how doomed we are if he plays and bunch of other gibberish (despite admitting on more than one occassion that you knew nothing about him other than he came from a PS)? I mean all you did was sing the tune that he couldnt even beat out a 7th rounder then made up all kinds of other flaws just to continue to bash him...I mean it was the biggest broken record of the off season...
But this is now more than one post I have seen since the draft by you that alludes to being in support of Brohm now...so what did I miss?
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Interesting article on why Nix is sticking with the QBs he has. Here's the link:
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-3...7c-ed175fc43900
And here's a small excerpt from it:
“Here’s the way we looked at it,” said Nix. “We’ve got guys physically that can do anything as well as anybody in the draft physically. Throw the ball well, make all the throws, mobile, can move around and are smart. We’ve got guys like that. Now obviously they’ve been kind of inconsistent and up and down, but there are a lot of reasons for that.”
This is what I said all off season!!! Glad to see there is actual confirmation of it now...
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Sounds like someone is in love....Russ, is that you?
Thanks for such a substantial contribution to the thread...
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perhaps I could change his name to mythreads=pain....all in favor???????
+1,000,000
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In 2006 when Evans caught 82 receptions, Mike Furrey caught 98 passes with a less talented team!
I say we trade Evans for whatever we can get and sign Mike Furrey! We can dump Lee and his high salary!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ing-with-bears/
You continue to solidify yourself as one of the top 3 worst posters on this board and I dont think you have ever started a single credible thread...
Posters like you should not have the ability to start threads...
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So let me get this straight Adawg, everything the Bills have done since the hiring of Nix has been great? And all of your assumptions like a trade for a legit OT, the Bills being in position to grab a top QB next year (If that group doesn't go Jevon Snead), Maybin magically working out and Shobel coming back, comes to fruition?
The truth is, the Bills have no LT and left a ton of question marks on the O line even after the draft! Wasn't their downfall the O line last year?Guess what, nothing has changed. Wood is still rehabbing, Bell is rehabbing from a torn ACL? No Butler. That leaves Levitre and Hangartner. Again I ask you, what has changed....Wang?
Secondly, who the hell is going to rush the passer on this team? You assume that Schobel is coming back but using your QB logic, it looked like the Bills are planning on moving on without him by drafting a D2 all star team at OLB.
That leaves Maybin. Someone said it a couple of weeks ago on this board, does the switch to a 34 make Maybin a better player? The truth is, Maybin will still have to be stout at the POA and will be rushing the passer from the same open side of the offense. Here is a guy who is stiff as a board and now he's going to have to drop into space and make plays in the open field?
Their is no legit pass rusher on this team and last time I checked the Pats spread out the field and the Bills are going to be left with the same group of sorry pass rushers that the Bills have had the last couple of years.
Optimism is one thing but this uber-enthusiam over what amounts to a questionalbale draft and 3 mid level free agents is unreal. It's actually led to the resurection of the idea that Trent's problems were all of the last regimes fault which is insane. I'm not saying there isn't hope but I just don't see this fantasy land mentality that has so many thinking Buddy Nix is this amazing southern football wizard either. I mean this is the Bills we"re talking about right? I know talking heads can be wrong but when they are all laughing in unison there has to be some truth to it right?
Time will tell but this team doesn't look much different at THE most important positions to me.
Are you under some delusion that every problem we have can be fixed in one offseason? I didnt say all our problems are solved...this was an assesment of the moves and picks we did make and how I felt about the direction of this team.
First off, the pass rush has lots of potential. We have vets and young guys in our new system that have the ability to get to the QB, and yes, I believe Maybin to be one of them. Only time will tell, but I see a lot of potential in this new D. One thing most casual fans don't realize is how valuable a high end secondary is to the pass rush. Our secondary will allow us to be very aggressive upfront and bring a lot of pressure, especially in this new 3-4.
Secondly, whats the deal with assumptions? I didn't assume anything. I just gave my opinnion how I see some things potentially working out and how things have been going.
Thirdly...I love how you started your comments on Maybin with "the truth is" then follow it up with your assumptions on how bad of a player he is...The REAL "truth is" about Maybin is that we dont have a clue to what we really have in him or what he can do. And, whether you want to acknowledge it or not, the switch to 3-4 definitely plays better to his strengths than the old system. Add into the fact he seems to have been working hard to add more strength in the offseason and you have a guy who could potentially become a good player on this team. Will he? Who knows...but until he gets out there on the field we wont know.
went to a Packers Message board
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Just so I am clear here...are you basing your assesment on a few GB fans who barely, and I mean literally barely, saw Brohm at all? He appeared breifly in a few preseason games as a 3rd string QB...I can assure you with full confidence that the absolute worst judge of talent at this point in time would be the opinnion of the fans in GB. Not because of themselves, but because they literally have about the least amount of information to judge him on.
The Packers, who at the time had the most knowledge on Brohm, tried to keep him despite not having room on the roster for him (in the middle of a season where they are thinking SB run) because of a lot of injuries at other positions that needed that roster spot. Several other teams also tried to sign Brohm, but he wanted to go somewhere where there wasnt an entrenched established starter, so he elected to sign with us.
Most importantly though, the fact the GB fans ONLY have mostly his rookie year preseason to really gauge Brohm, they really have the least intelligent understanding of where Brohm is now. Just because a rookie QB doesnt adjust in his first rookie campaign preseason well to the speed of the game does not equal bust...happens ALL THE TIME.
Most recent example...Kolb in Philly prior to this year looked absolutely HORRID in REAL in season games when it counted filling in for McNabb when he was hurt. No TD's and lots of turnovers...now look where he is just after 2 seasons...McNabb is gone and he is the man in Philly because he was able to step in last year and show solid progress (still not a good decision maker yet, but thats to be expected with the little experience he has still).
So, I am sorry, but I dont value the assesment of casual fans who has barely seen the kid play in GB (and are bitter over losing a 2nd round pick for nothing), and most of that was in his rookie preseason, over what our staff sees in him today.