Alphadawg7
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"CJ Dippa" LMAO if you know that reference...
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He was talking about were jackson would be traded and he said this for the bills
"Buffalo: The Bills need a playmaker and sending Jackson to a weak team would teach Jackson a lesson. "
Just a comparison to a probably worse team
"St. Louis: Jackson would be a very nice welcome gift for Sam Bradford."
Come on what the !@#$ is going on with analysts this year. Do they really hate the bills?
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/16212/where-vincent-jackson-could-end-up
Why does anyone care or expect any different based on the product we have put out there the last couple of years?
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How does CJ Spiller not enter this season as the starting running back? He was the 9th pick in the draft, he's a match-up nightmare for defenses, he's better than expected between the tackles. He should be starting games and Jackson/Lynch should be coming in later to pound it home. Don't get me wrong, the load should be divided, but don't we want the ball in this guy's hands as much as possible?
I'm very interested to see what Gailey does when he has the three back healthy. He's going to have some crazy formations!
Well, there is a lot more to playing as a starting RB in this league than just your ability to run the ball. He has to be able to pass protect to in order to be an every down back. I have no idea where he is at in his development in terms of pass protection, or even how it compares to FJ or Lynch in that area, but for him to see the bulk of the reps he is going to need to be competent at the least in that area.
That being said, if he can due his part in pass protection and puts up 300 combined yards or so and a couple of TDs in the first 2 weeks, its going to be really hard not giving him the most touches of our RB's.
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Bye bye Brian. Good luck in the UFL.
Seriously, can this thread being any stupider? Just because Trent has one good preseason game does not change Brohms potential...it literally has absoulutely no relevance on any level to Brohms potential. If he had come out and stunk it up, then you could have a leg to stand on. But they gave Fitz the go ahead in this game as they will likely give Brohm the go ahead in the next game for the battle for the backup spot. If Brohm struggles next week, then maybe...but right now, Chan has said nothing but good things about him and he is still competing for the 2nd string job.
But, you and a few other posters whos girls were knocked up by Brohm just cant help yourselves. The kid still has potential and is still battling for the second string job until Chan says otherwise. And there is still a good possibility we will keep all 3 guys.
PS: One preseason game doesnt all of a sudden salvage Trents career. He still needs to do it when it counts and also try and have his first season since High School of being injury free. Its great to see Trent have success, but this game means nothing come week 1.
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Add in that guys like McCoy and LeFevour are in danger of being cut in their first preseason and this draft class is not exactly off to a good impression.
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Personally, I find Rex Ryan to be hilarious and highly likable. Who knows how it will translate to the field.
Totally agree...I actually really like Rex Ryan and if he was our coach this board would be quoting him and drooling all over this guy. Hes a Jet though, so I get the hate on here...but I like him.
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Stupid question here...how exactly does the "hot topic" feature work? Wasnt aware this feature even existed...
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Ok but we can play the what if games all day long. Long passes are passes. He made the play. Does it help his stats....yes...but he made the play.
What "what if" game? There is no what if...his QB rating for the preseason is 75...not very good. In close to a full game of play combined he has 150 yards 1 TD and 1 INT...how is that much different than what we have seen from him in the past? And almost half those yards were on 1 play with blown coverage by a safety. Outside of the one play he has a QB rating in the forties...that's not what if, that's fact.
Even worse are how few first downs our starters have generated...
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Spiller and Roscoe are going to make us better because Chan will figure out how to exploit teams that crowd the line of scrimmage. That bomb to Evans was a great example. We don't have to throw 20-30 yards. All we need to do is get the ball to Spiller or Parrish in open space. Teams will have to adjust to our attack, which will take pressure off Edwards (or whoever) because they will not be able to put 9 in the box without getting burned. I'm very excited to see some of the real Bills offense under Gailey.
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I totally agree with everything you just said...for it to work though we need one of our QB's be able to step up and be solid in executing Chans offense. They will need to throw crisp, decisive, quick passes...and right now, Trent seems to be the front runner and I dont have a lot of faith he can execute that consistently.
You did mention that long pass which has been a hop topic around here. Thats the problem I am having in fully buying in right now, as I dont see that long pass as a thing to come as much as it was a relatively easy throw to a wide open WR on broken coverage. Somehow that one pass has made some people forget the rest of his preseason and I just dont get it.
This is Trents performance the entire preseason...not exactly exciting.
11 of 20 (55%) for 151 yards (7.55 yds/att), 1 TD, 1 INT = QB rating of 75.2
Now look at what happens if you take out the one bomb:
10 of 19 (52%) for 81 yards (4.26 yds/att), 0 TDs, 1 Int = QB rating of 41.78
Sadly, he should have had another INT which would have been a pick 6 if the DB didnt drop it on the 2nd series of the Indy game. His QB rating would be 56.45 on the preseason if the DB doesnt drop it...doesnt exactly build a lot of confidence for me.
So while the one bomb was a great throw, the reality is he hasnt been very good as a whole this preseason and that concerns me a lot more than the one bomb has given me hope. For me, beyond the stats, he just hasnt looked very poised, decisive or confident much this preseason either. He has made a couple of nice throws but also made a lot of bad ones and bad decisions.
The good news is that Chan has good history with QBs, so I hope he can mold one of ours to be effective in his offense. If he does, this offense could be dangerous, but only if he can turn Trent around or develop Brohm.
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Never say never. How bad were we last year and the year before that, and we still won 6-7 games? The playoffs are not that far out of reach.
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Yeah, but the issue then is the same now...who is going to throw the ball? Until Chan turns one of our QB's into at least a solid starter we will not make the playoffs. That being said, I bought into what Chan is doing and bringing to the table too. I really like the direction this team is going and I feel like that what ever happens this season it will be a step in the right direction, especially in really getting a our younger guys out there.
If one of our QBs starts to really develop under Chan into a solid QB then we may surprise some folks this year.
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Well said. A guy like Clausen looked better because there was a ton of crap. The top guy didn't play all season and got a serious shoulder injury in one of the few tiems he got hit in college. The 2nd QB off the board is learning how to throw a football again. The rest were passed on every team in the league, sometimes multiple times.
I love next year's draft. Locker, possibly Luck, Ponder, Pryor (I think he has a big year), and Mallett could be a very special group. I like all over those guys over any QB in this draft (though I won't have hated Bradford or Tebow - love the guy as a leader).
Agree with everything but the Tebow part. I get the whole "leader" part, but thats what the coach is for, to be the leader. Of course my QB ideally is also a leader on the field, but leadership doesnt make up for poor mechanics, and his mechanics still look bad to me. I just dont think he will be a very good QB, and he wont seem nearly as good of a runner in the NFL as he was in college as the defesnses are much faster here. So while leadership is a great quality, his ability as a QB just isnt strong enough for me at this stage to be comfortable with him as a future starter.
Of course, thats just my opinnion, and obviously Denver saw enough in him to move up in the first for him...I mean he may end up putting it all together at this level, but he sure seems to need a lot of work on his mechanics to be able to do that.
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Found this story online browsing around some football news...
The Cleveland Plain Dealer lists rookie Colt McCoy as one player in need of a strong showing over the final two games to make the Browns' roster.
It's exceedingly rare for an NFL team to give up on a third-round pick after one preseason, and it's hard to imagine McCoy passing through waivers. Still, McCoy has been dreadful in exhibition action (5-of-12 for 25 yards, two interceptions) and camp scrimmages while Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace have shined.
No, I dont want us to pick him up if he is put on waivers, I dont think he would make it in Buffalo. LeFevour is in danger of being cut in Chi too...this all just further illustrates how underwhelming this past QB class was and how it makes more sense to see what our guys can do this year and look at a QB next year if they falter.
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I think Roscoe, like Lee, has been a prisoner of this offense and bad QB play the last few years. The one of the things I like about Chan is that he is intent in getting the ball into our playmakers hands. I will reserve some excitement until I can see a QB behind center who can execute come game day. I dont care how many offensive weapons we put on the field, if we don't get one of these QB's to be able to step up and produce on Sunday we still wont score many points.
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What about Cornelious Ingram? Someone told he was was a FA...
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I'll give you that on Clausen, Tebow, and Bradford.
But tell that to the guys ripping Brian Brohm.
It's the same thing…just a matter of degree.
You can only START to judge Brohm now because he's had such limited snaps/games/years under his belt.
It's a work in progress.
^^^THIS^^^
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Heres a pointed response:
Bell over Lynch -- right.... Bell runs well against backups so trade your proven RB for a late round pick. You should apply for a GM job.
I would really like to see you throw the ball 60 yards and hit a WR in stride. So have a friend of yours videotape you throwing a football that far and post a link to the youtube clip.
CJ Spiller, will not and is not your #1 RB. He will be used in different situations and formations. I dont think we will see a true #1 RB on this team.. 3 very different backs.
Lets not exaggerate here, the pass was exactly 48 yards in the air (pause it and the ball toches Lees hands while his front foot is exactly on the 29 yard line and Trent threw from 23)...and I watched people do this all day in my flag football league yesterday...not saying it was not a nice pass, just saying its not that hard of a throw. And if you listen to Trent talk about it he even said he essentially just chucked it as far as he could (for what its worth the ball traveled 48 yards in the air)and hoped Lee would get there. There was not a whole lot of skill used to make that throw as Trent in that situation is never going to out throw Lee with his speed that far down field.
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Thanks for updating the site...looks great. I vote for the shout box to come back though, much better than having to go into a seperate room to chat IMO...
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I just rewatched the play, Edwards let go on his 23 and hit Evans at Indys 25. So 52 yards in the air, on a rope. Pennington can't, Brohm can't Fitz can't make that throw.
You must not have watched closely as I have the game on pause and the ball is in Lees hands with his front foot standing on the 29 yard line making it a 48 yard pass.
None of this matters, I never said it wasnt a good pass, it was a great pass, I just said that it wasnt a difficult pass given how open Lee was and how much time Trent had...he better make that pass. I said yesterday that he made a great pass, but even Trent said he just chucked it, so for me it wasnt that difficult of a pass to all of a sudden change my opinnion of his other many short comings.
I dont care if he can hit a WR wide open, I care if he can hit WR's who are open but in tighter coverage...I care if he can move in the pocket, not give up on plays, see the open guys, make good decisions, not fold under pressure, etc. And I didnt see anything the rest of the game to really make me think he has turned a corner, especially that second series which was awful.
Brohm showed potential, still needs more playing time to get his timing and rhythm, but he showed me enough to want to see what he can do with the starters.
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Sure you can. That ball was thrown on a rope 45 yards. Half the guys in the NFL do not make that play and hanging it up like JP used to would have allowed the defense time to react. That was a beautiful throw.
Again, please show me just one NFL QB who cant thorw that 40 to 45 yard pass...all I want is one. I mean the weakest arm in the game by popular vote is Chad Pennington and he has made that throw many times, even after several surgeries to his throwing arm.
And unless you threw it so high it resembled a punt, no DB was going to get there as no one was remotely close to being able to make a play on that ball.
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Yeah let's ignore all that arm tackling especially that safety. That wouldn't support you incorrect position. Also, that pass was more than 45 yards in the air, and no most QB's don't complete that.
I think it was more like 40, but that doesnt matter...Please show me one QB on any NFL roster that cant throw a ball 45 yards...Chad Pennington who is said to have the weakest arm in football can easily throw it 45 yards...
Heck, I can throw the ball 45 yards with no problem, how can an NFL QB not make that throw?
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There's been an increased awareness of head injuries in the league over the past few years. Concussions come easier every time after your first. Trent has had two that we know of and that makes him (more so than others) susceptible to being one good hit away from being out of the league. That was a pretty serious hit. His head hit the ground hard and he appeared to be dazed and slow to get up. I was actually surprised that he wasn't kept out of the game. So whether it was a good decision medically, I give Trent credit for showing some toughness for coming back and having a good night when a lot of people were calling for his head.
The Indy game alone was just a step in the right direction however. He needs to show that he can overcome his flaws and perform well consistently.
I see your point, so out of fairness, I went back to watch the play again. I mean having played LB I am probably a little biased on what is considered a big hit, so I watched it a couple of times just now.
I still feel like the hit itself was not really big hit, more of a moderate shot, but I do see your point about his head hitting the turf and that it was hard enough to be a concern for someone with previous concussion issues. That being said, how can we count on a QB who can barely take that hit? This is the NFL and he will get hit harder than that, especially with this O Line trying gel, so how is he ever going to last as a QB if every decent hit can potentially knock him out of the game?
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I like how they say if you take that play away he sucked. Well if you take Spillers TD run away he sucked too. He would have been 9-23. Let's cut Spiller. If he doesn't have a big play he blows. Brohm was great though. 5 yards per pass. Woohoo.
lol...BIG difference...Spiller play was an amzing and skillful play that not every RB in the NFL could have made. Trents pass was a ball (that he himself said he just chucked the ball hoping Lee could get to it) that any QB from high school to the NFL could have made. It was a 40 yard pass to a WR wide open downfiled because of blown coverage by the safety with no pressure on the QB.
The two plays are not even close to the same level in terms of difficulty...it was also Spillers first NFL action ever.
Granted, it was a great throw, but it was also as easy as it gets. Why do things need to be perfect for Trent to make a play? We arent going to get that kind of blown coverage but a few times a year, so what about the rest of the time?
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So what did you think of his play last night? Let me guess. "If you take out this play, or that play, he sucked."
This is my new favorite type of TBD "analysis"His play last night was not that impressive to me. Was it his worst outing, of course not. But his game didnt exactly convince me that much has changed either. Watch the game rather than look at the stats. You take away the one long play to a wide open Lee and what exactly did he do that would really change someones mind about him as our starter?
For example, lets start with his second series...he went 3 and out. More telling was that he threw what should have been an INT to Lee who was not remotely open but it was dropped by the DB. Worse is that Trent chose to throw to Lee despite having someone wide open in between where Trent was and where he threw to Lee. So again, he demonstrated poor decision making and poor field vision.
Outside of the throw to Evans which was about as easy as it gets, what else really stands out? He still looked shaky and sometimes panicky in the pocket. So rather than mock those who arent convinced over one play, why dont you provide us with something he did OTHER than that easy throw to a wide open Lee Evans. Trent even said he just chucked it up hoping Lee could get to it...it was not that difficult of a pass.
And for those talking about him getting up after that hit...are you serious? It wasnt even that bad of a hit and it took him a bit to get up from it, but even so, who cares. Its the NFL, big hits happen all the time and these PROFESSIONALS get up after those hits and get back out there. How sad is it that we have to get excited about our fragile QB being able to come back out after taking a modest hit?
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I think it was Steve Tasker last night that said the current QB competition is for #2 between Fitz & Brohm..and that the loser of that competition would more than likely get cut
That is just his interpretation of it, Chan insists its an open competition for the #1 as well...People have to stop reading so much into outsiders observations and start listenting to the teams stance...
Trent has not been named the #1 QB yet...Fitz or Brohm still could be chosen, and until Chan says otherwise we wont know who is starting week 1.
Antonio Bryant cut by Bengals...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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He wasn't cut because of TO...they signed TO because they knew they were going to cut him because he was struggling with injuries...in other words TO was his replacement. There was talk of him maybe not making the rosters weeks before TO ever signed there, this was expected and known for a while now, they just finally made it official.