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If there is one thing that Nix has proved since he arrived here is that you cannot believe a word he says. What was it 24 hours ago he told the media that they would not release Schobel, now they release him. A week ago it was said that Schobel had all the time he needed and would be welcomed, then when the word got out that Schobel was looking for a place to rent, Nix told him he wasn't welcomed. Wishy Washy at best this guy is.
So which is it people? On one hand everyone is upset that we released him and didnt trade him (which was a pipe dream that there was a market for him anyway)...and the same people are upset saying that Nix said we wouldnt just outright cut him 24 hours ago. What was Nix supposed to do? Say they were planning on cutting him then try and trade him? How does that make any sense. If you wanted him traded then Nix had NO choice but to say we wouldnt cut him, yet now thats being used against him too.
Of course he said we would not be cutting him in an attempt to see if there was any interest out there at all for a trade. Clearly there was none, so they went ahead and cut him. With all the rumors of us intending to cut him, his public statements about losing a step and not practicing hard or training hard, as well as his $8 million dollar a year salary, there was just no market what so ever for him.
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Yeah how dense can we be. I'm sure he had the offers flowing in during those 24 hours or so between his comments and the actual time he was released. This is just another example of how dumb this organization can be. Why release him now, why not wait til after the pre-season, or better yet, how about before the draft? AS knew after last year he wasn't playing another game with this team, when he said he was contemplating retirement. Think about it. It's obvious now, but no one was going to trade anything for him.
If you are going to test the trade market (which clearly there wasnt one), you dont publicly say you are about to cut the guy. Clearly there was no market and as a sevice to a player who gave a lot of good years to this team and stayed out of trouble they cut him now. I dont have a problem with that. There was no point to drag it on.
Cutting him now sends a clear message to the team...show up and work, no one is above the team. It also shows confidence in our young guys and now they know the work they are putting in is being noticed and they really are playing for a starting spot.
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Why leave the door open for so long if he didn't think he was coming back? Because he thought he could persuade him>>>>>FAIL! Please, you believe what you want to believe and believe what I want.
Either way, you cannot say that the Bills didn't dropped the ball when it came to improving the OLB position in the draft or in free agency. Save the "they cannot build an entire team in one draft." Shouldn't you start with the most important positions? The spots where you don't have legit incumbents like Kyle Williams, Stroud, Freddy Jax? Well, Schobel ain't here anymore and there will be no position more evident of this mistake....other than Tackle and QB of course.
What? Our LB corp as a whole is better this year. They added Davis who is a really good player and has been impressive in camp already. They moved Maybin to LB and Ellis, both of which are showing promise in camp. We switched to 3-4 and brought in guys up front like Dwan and Troup that will make life easier for our LB's and allow us to use the key intangibles of players like Maybin (which is his speed off the edge). Not to mention Carrington has been impressive and looks like a guy who can contribute early.
You just want to find a way to hate everything they are doing. When in reality they have made a lot of great changes already, brought in new talent in FA and the draft, been great in handling all the positional competitions, and made a very strong and valuable statement to the team in cutting Schobel.
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I agree. Who knows about Plaxico's conditioning, plus being away from the game as long as he has. IMO, if Burress were to play this year, I don't know how effective he would be.
With Campbell there and Davis obsession with the deep ball, I think they may even try and get Buress on the roster and playing in 2010. I doubt he will draw serious interest from too many teams. Young rebuilding teams are not going to want to bring him in, and most of the real contenders are pretty set at WR now. So, Oak I would expect will probably make the most sense for him as they are not afraid of these types of risks and he would have a legitimate chance to eventually be the starter at some point there.
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The Bills heard NE was interested so they cut him ASAP. Can't wait to watch Schobel be the one to take out our QB. And didn't Nix just tell everyone Schobel wasn't going anywhere? Gotta love our honest GM.
How dense can our fans be...do you think it would help his trade value or hurt his trade value if Nix said we are just going to cut him? Seriously...
Do you think its possible that he publicly denied being willing to cut him to see if he could find some kind of trading partner before he actually cut him?
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...eeks/?related=1
I doubt he would play this year at all with any team.
I will be the first to say it...(although I am sure many others also think it)
Oakland will be the first to show interest and the one to sign him.
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Oh thank god, I was worried we wouldnt have someone start yet another thread on this...way to step to the plate
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I was not a fan of pick either but in reality the back who ended up the starter is 29 and has not shown the ability to score TDs. The other RB had a league suspension and was another dumb move away from perhaps a year-long suspension. His productivity also tailed off.
They likely didn't feel comfortable with what they had. Still, why not then draft a Mathews who could be an every down back?? Or, get their scatback in a later round?
Just curious...how were they going to draft Mathews if they didnt take him at #9? Spiller was hands down the highest graded RB in the draft, so why would they choose Mathews over him at #9 especially since Spiller was exactly the kind of back he wanted too?
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Sorry dude. Other than perhaps picking up Madden I can't agree with anything else you said. Sounds like a bunch of excuses for a guy that won't have his opinion of Schobel changed no matter what he does. I'm not the hero worship type. I call it as I see it regardless of who it is.
I guess we will see about item #1 when he is being courted by teams OTHER than Houston and he signs and is still effective. Unfortunately your opinion and view will long since be forgotten as no ones feet are ever held to the fire of history. Yes, I am an I told you so prick. I deserve and welcome the same because unlike some others I can actually admit I was wrong and in the process actually learn something. This helps me to have the right answer in the future.
It's about having the "right answer" not "being right". There is a HUGE difference in that statement.
Huh? I like Schobel and would have like to see him come back. There is nothing to change my mind about. I think he has value on the field still. However, I dont think he has any TRADE value based on his own words. SCHOBEL says he has lost a step and is considering retiring because he doesnt feel he can be as effective anymore. SCHOBEL says he doesnt practice hard or train hard. Add in the fact that he isnt even sure he wants to play yet still makes $8 million dollars and you have a trade market that all by dissapeared. Not to mention, they know that the Bills will cut him if they cant trade him and then they can sign this guy for MUCH less.
I am not even going to address half of what you wrote as I cant even make heads or tails out of most of it. No one is saying Schobel doesnt have value on the field as a player, but what he does not have is TRADE value given the circumstances. So, trying to hold out to get a 7th round pick or something and keeping this cancerous situation on going is not conducive to the team. The message cutting him sends and the vote of confidence it gives our young guys knowing they are truly competing for a starting spot now and their hard work is being acknowledged publicly is HUGE for a young rebuilding team.
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Come on man!!! His serious decision was that he didn't want to play for the Bills anymore, he pulled an Allan Haynesworth/Brett Farve combo and he screwed us. He didn't take the money like Haynesworth which is commendable but he didn't want to switch to a 3 - 4 even though we gave him a fat new contract in 2007. He didn't want to work with the team and used the threat of retirement to get out of OTAs and training camp.
You gonna keep swinging from his junk while you decry the behavior of guys like Jason Peters. Holy double standard Batman. At least Peters WANTED TO PLAY IN BUFFALO! Schobel kicked us in the junk on the way out the door and made sure we got NOTHING in return.
You do realize that some of the other teams he would consider playing for run the 3-4 right?
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So what you are saying is that you agree with my original post. Buddy thought and was counting on Schobel coming back. Schobel decided that he doesn't want to be here. Buddy did not plan for this and it's so freeking obvious.
So what's the problem with my post other than the fact that you have the reading comprehension of a 5th grader? Are you happy with Kelsay, Maybin, Batten and Mitchell being your primary pass rushers? I know Brady, Sanchez and Henne have to be.
This is not at all what I said, seems to be you have the reading comprehension issue. I never said Nix was counting on him coming back...please show me anywhere I wrote anything remotely close to that...
I said Buddy left the door open for him to come back out of respect for a guy who has been a good player for a long time for this team and was still under contract. But ONLY if he was willing to come in and report to camp (Nix even said this) and put the work in just like everyone else. When Schobel made it clear that wasnt happening anytime soon with his recent comments, they decided it was time to continue moving on and officially closed the door.
Your rants just get more foolish with everyone..
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1) I'll take 10 sacks for 2009 any Sunday lost a step or not! I have a feeling so would a lot of teams if they have a brain.
2) Don't play Madden. I missed that generation
3) Something is better than nothing. Wouldn't you agree.
1) 2009 is 2009, not 2010 where he would be playing in a new system (here or elsewhere), is a year older, lost some desire to play, doesnt train hard and doesnt practice hard.
2) You should play it, its a great game...lol
3) Not in this case...one, we most likely were not going to get something in the first place. Two, for a young team it is more valuable to move on from this rather than let it drag out and be a cancerous sitiuation. The message it sends to them that no player is above the team and that everyone needs to come out and work is far more valuable than trying to dig up a very late round pick (which I seriously doubt was going to happen anyway).
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If you're looking for a direct quote from Buddy Nix stating that he is attempting to trade Lynch, no. I cannot provide one.
If you are looking for reports from highly credible reporters like Adam Schefter, Charles Robinson, and others, I can certainly provide them.
I don't over-rely upon reportage BUT, I think it's naive and/or ignorant, hopeful, or stubborn, to think that Lynch didn't try to force a trade out of Buffalo and that the Bills did not attempt to trade him.
No, there are no quotes by the Bills on this matter (why would they comment?). But the critical mass of credible reports, combined with Marshawn's actions/non-actions this off season make it clear to me what happened.
Believe what you want, PDaDDy. I'll do the same.
People believe what they want and construct their arguments from there. Hopefully their beliefs are rationale and objective and not tied to some personal feelings that they hold.
Actually, you are right about Nix and Lynch...Nix publicly stated that he had entertained offers for Lynch during the draft but they were not good enough.
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At least it didnt take as long for him to unretire this time...
I knew as soon as his ankle was better he would come back...no surprise that he is going next week to see his doctor to drag this out long enough to miss as much of camp as possible.
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Your reading comprehension, much like your spelling, is poor. Not once did I say they should have gotten anything for him. They should have planned for life without him and they didn't!
Let me try to spell it out for you (pun intended for BillyMadison7). WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO RUSH THE PASSER NOW THAT SCHOBEL IS GONE???
Maybin looks good in the first week of camp blowing by D Bell and the rest of the practice squders that the Bills throw out there a tackle....OOHHH JOOOY!!!!!!
Who is on the other side....Kelsay?? Now your stupid LMAO is appropriate here! Mitchell.......ummmm no! Batten...PLEASE!!!
I'm not saying that Schobel is a great pass rusher but he's the only one the Bills have. And hoping that Maybin is going to go from Clark Kent to Superman because he's playing OLB in a 3-4 is well...pure fantasy. He's playing behind a career journeyman in Torbor and while I've read that he looks quick, I've also read that he's getting bent in half against the run. And last time I checked, quickness doesn't equate to anything without technique, strength or size.
Carrington was a decent draft pick but to expect sacks out of a 3-4 end is more fantasy. Obviously he'll push the pocket and create better lanes for our OLB's... if the Bills had any...
AlphaDouche7, why didn't Buddy pull the trigger on Schobel 4 months ago if he didn't think he was going to play? Why did he leave the door open for him? I agree with you, he has no value. So what was the advantage to keeping him around if they were going to cut him anyway? I would really like you to answer this, but back it up with something other than pure conjecture.
I love how you live up to your last name in every post...
Anyway, I will answer your question as it is pretty obvious and clear (and even been said by Nix publicly), so I assume thats why you dont see it. Nix left the door open to him to play for 2 reasons. One, he can still play, maybe not to the level he once did, but he still has value when on the field. Two, and most importantly, he was good player for this team for a long time and already under contract and the team showed respect for that. There was NO REASON to cut him if he was going to show up to camp and play.
Nix even said publicly that IF he showed up to camp the door was open to him for a return. And lets be honest here, judging by Schobels comments this seems a heck of a lot more about him trying to find a way to skip as much of camp as possible alla Brett Favre. Nix and company were not having it and even publicly said that the other guys are in here working hard (and also showing a lot of promise) learning the NEW system. Lets not forget Schobel has never played in a 3-4.
So, the door was open to a long time good player for this team to return as long as he was willing to come in and work like the rest of the team. When that wasnt going to happen, they moved on.
PS: They are not going to fill every hole on this team in one draft! They went out and added a lot of promising young talent to this team, and Carrington thus far is looking like he could be a real contributor early.
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Have you seen his sack totals? I kicked the guy when he was down but when he was healthy he was a 8 - 12 sack guy. That can't be ignored. He was an impact player on our team and could have been so on another if not at the very least a valuable contributor.
Have you read or listened to any of his interviews? He has said publicly more than once that he lost a step last year and cant do the things he used to be able to do. He also said he doesnt practice, train, or prepare hard. What kind of market do you think there is for an aging vet not willing to put the practice or training hard who publicly claims he lost a step and lost some desire to play all together and still makes $8 million a year?
Seiously, what is with the fans of this board? Its like they have all made too many trades in their Madden games and just think they can get whatever they want for players. No one was going to give up any value for him, probably not even a late round pick.
So the front office had to choose to keep this cloud over camp to try and turn over every stone to maybe get a 6th or 7th round pick for him (which they most likely wouldnt have) or cut him and move on. The RIGHT move was to cut him and move on, this young team doesnt need a cancerous situation like this.
I love this move, it says a clear message to the team that no one is above everyone else. Either you come in a compete or you wont be here, plain and simple.
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The first BIG MISTAKE was assuming that Schobel was coming back. Buddy expected to get one more productive year out of Schobel as the teams primary pass rusher. Well that's not going to happen.
The second BIG MISTAKE was not having a backup plan and drafting a legit pass rusher. In the 1st round he passed on legit pass rushers like Morgan, Graham, Pierre Paul. In the 2nd round he passed on Kindle. In the later rounds, he passed on Griffen, Norwood and Sapp. Am I saying that all of them will be All Pros, NO! But they would've all contributed this year and the majority of them are better than anyone the Bills have at OLB.
When you look at the great 3-4's, it's all about the NT and the OLB's. Over the years, tandems like Woodley and Harrison and Timmons (Dominated the Cards Oline in the SB), Phillips and Merriman , Ware and Spencer, Porter and Taylor, Vrable and McGinest dominated opposing offensive lines and disrupted passing games.
Even teams who run a 4-3 understand that the NFL is a passing league and you need great pass rushers to get anywhere. The last 3 Super Bowls were played by teams who have Freeney/Mathis, Will Smith, Harrison/Wodley, Tuck/Mathias K/Osi/Strahan (And they just drafted Pierre Paul). Look at what Allen and Edwards do in Minny!!!!! Or the difference guys like Mathews and Dumerville make on their teams.
So what did Buddy do to improve what I think is the 2nd most important position (pass rusher wherever it comes from) in the NFL today? NOTHING! And now the Bills best pass rusher over the last decade is sick of the ineptitude that the Bills show year after year and says "no thanks" to 6 mill.
Good job Buddy! The Bills may not have anyone to rush the QB but they do have 3 solid RB's!! (And a terrible O-line to boot!) Isn't the NFL a passing league!?!?! Wouldn't it make sense to load up on pass rushers the way the Steelers do every year? Way to count on the dynamic duo of Maybin and Kelsay. Brady, Henne and Sanchez thank you!
LMAO at this lame rant that doesnt even make sense. One, they said they were prepared to move on with out Schobel, but if he would be welcomed back if he reported by camp. So, where do you get your idea that we were expecting to get one more good year out of him?
Second, WHO CARES ABOUT GETTING ONE MORE GOOD YEAR out of an aging vet when you are a rebuilding team in the first place. Schobel was NEVER going to make or break this team.
Third, did you not watch the draft? We drafted Carrington, plus already had Maybin in line as young prospects to replace him. And thus far, Maybin has been showing a lot of explosion in a lot reports in camp and Carrington has had nothing but rave reviews.
Fourth, Schobel self admited that he doesnt work hard in practice, in training, or the weight room. Thats not the kind of mentality and work ethic needed around our young talent.
Fifth, you have your panties in a wad over a missed opportunity to AT BEST get a very late round draft pick even if we could move him, which we probably cant anyway. No one was going to give up anything of real value for a guy who is on the fence about playing, has an $8 million dollar contract, is on the downside of his career (he said himself he lost a step in a recent interview), and has never played in the 3-4.
Finally, NIX GOT THIS RIGHT! He kept the door open, but Schobel chose to basically drag it out and avoid camp. Nix and Chan said no way...our guys are here working hard and earning a spot. So rather than wait for Schobel to pull his best Favre impression and miss camp, they made the decision for him. They are not going to be able to move him, so they just ended the saga now NOT MISSING OUT ON ANY PERCIEVED VALUE YOU WANT TO CREATE IN YOUR HEAD as there was no market for him.
I love how fans on here just assume we chose to get no value and didnt at least explore trade interest because so fool didnt tweet about it.
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Maybe, I missed something? When were there accurate accounts that we could have traded down?
Nix stated they had people contact them about trading into our place but we were not interested.
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Ryan Longwell who has been a teammate and friend of Favres for more than a decade told the media that he spoke to Brett today and there was no indication he was retiring. Seems to me that if Brett was set to retire and texting teammates that he would have said something to his long time friend and current teammate on their call today. Not to mention he hasnt even informed his coach or team of his intention to retire, so I find it hard to believe he informed a few random players but not his long time friend Longwell, the coaching staff, or the front office.
I have serious doubts that he truly is retiring and wouldnt be surprised if a lot of this is to justify missing more of camp which we all know he hates.
Even if his ankle is not responding the way he wants, as soon as it feels better he is going to want and expect to play again.
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We all know that drafting a QB in the top 10 costs a team a ton of money, especially upfront money. We know that are owner isn't the most free-spending owner in the world. We also know that there will be a new CBA come hell or high water, that will adjust rookie salaries.
Could it be that the Bills are waiting for the new rookie cap in order to go get their QB? Just a thought I had, knowing what we know.
BTW 5-11 this year... oh well
If some of you with posts like this would stop and use a little common sense and think about what you are about to post you would realize how rediculous it is and not post it.
There is 100% definitive proof that what you just posted is not remotely true. Do you even realize that? Did you watch the draft past the#9 pick?
The ONLY QB who seiously had a chance to go top 10 was Cluassen. Buffalo chose not to take Claussen and go with who they viewed as the best player in the entire draft, especially on offense (our weakest unit). Then we chose NOT to draft Claussen AGAIN in the 2nd round where we could have had a price that would still be MUCH cheaper than what a first round QB would cost next year no matter what happens with the CBA. So there you have it...definitive proof that passing on Claussen at 9 was not a financial move.
However, there is even MORE definitive proof...we also know that we had offers to trade DOWN which Nix and Chan both said they were not interested in. So, if it was REALLY about money then we would have moved down and grabbed someone else.
The bottom line is this...At QB, we already had a highly regarded prospect just 2 years removed from college in Brohm and another QB that the staff was intrigued by in Trent. You cant fill every hole on a team like this in one offseason. So they decided to bring guys in at other spots first and see what we have in our QB crops when a real offense is installed. Why is this such a hard concept to understand, I mean its even been publicly stated numerous times by Chan, Nix, etc.
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Watch for the Vick to Vikes rumors...With the rookie QB really impressing in Phi, I wouldnt be surprised if he gets linked to Minn as we get deeper into the preseason and Favre still has not come back.
Personally, I think Favre eventually comes back, he is the poster child for waffler.
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Thank you, I woke up this morning totally perplexed and nervous about this whole thing. I was starting to get worried, even afraid to get on my computer, and even more scrared to open up this page. I didnt know it was going to affect me so much and keep me so on the edge. I had a cup of coffee to try and calm my nerves, but it just made me pace more. I quickly realized that I had to just check, there was no way around it. I had to address the fear that was paralyzing my morning...
So I turned on my computer while on the edge of my seat...nervously clicked on the favorites tabbed marking this page, and BOOM there it was! I was terrified that no one would start yet another daily thread today on Spiller not being signed, but you came through big time with your thread and all was calm...so thank you for turning my world right side up again by starting the same thread thats been posted about 100 times since he was drafted...One can only hope my fears are relieved again tomorrow morning and someone else will start the 101st thread on this or I dont know what I will do...
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Hey guys, long time follower, first time poster...
Maybe its just me, but I don't read into this as Brohm had a good day, but one good series, in 7-on-7 play. I believe CB wrote "this was one of Brohms better series" Now, one good series does not make a good day, lets see him string together a couple good series, with a full defense on the field, before we anoint him.
Apparently you missed the sentence about Brohm leading into the statement about that series.
"But there was also a quarterback that had arguably his best practice in camp."
The comments on that series were just some specifics to support the statement of it being one of his best days in camp.
Buddy's first BIG mistakeS
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Its posters like you that are the problem with this board...I dont have a problem that you see our LB corp more negatively and I see it more optimisticly based on recent camp reports. I have a problem with this baseless gibberish you write by literally making things up that other people didnt say. At NO POINT have I ever claimed Brohm to be anything other than a guy with upside. I never said he would be great, definitely never said he would be the next Kurt Warner. I simply said I like his potential and think he has a lot of upside and wanted to see what he could do.
But you just continue to spew off at the mouth with pointless and gibberish jabs liket this that not only are not true but add no value to any thread. You do this with lots of posters on here too...