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I know that I'm going to be chastized for this, and deservedly so, but I can't get over the Stevie "non-catch" against Cincinnati. How in the hell can these bean-headed officials (whom by the way I hope Buffalo never draws to officiate a game EVER again) call this an incomplete pass. Bottom line, if Johnson's catch is called what it should've been-a catch, the Bills are 4-0 right now. Stuff like this haunts NFL teams year after year. It carries over, whether in perfomance, divisional races, or playoff seeding. My question continues to be, where and when did the football exactly hit the turf? Answer that! The NFL STILL hasn't bothered to explain exactly why this play was ruled incomplete! In fact, former Head of Officiating Mike Perrara of Fox Sports couldn't even come up with an explaination! And he has an answer for everything!
My biggest fear is that this play is going to carry over the rest of the season in one form or another. This team has overcome alot of adversity and big deficits thus far, but given the fact that Johnson and other players on the team are still talking about this play really worries me. Coming back from this may be even bigger than 18 points to the Raiders and 21 points to New England. Hopefully this wagon can get circled...
Geezus...first off, the issue on the play for the officials was that you have to complete the motion of the catch for it to be ruled a catch (see controversial calls last year on TD's that were not TD's because they did not complete the motion of the catch). Based on how they clarified the rule last year, then SJ had not completed the motion of the catch at the time his knee was down. Second, the ball came loose and on the replay you CAN NOT see if the ball ever hit the ground, therefore based on replay rules it can not be over turned. Those are the rules, refs called it within the rules. Third, and most importantly, we still had a 7 point LEAD!
IMO, I think it was a catch too, but based on what we can prove, it was not enough to overturn the call on the field. Get over it...
More disturbing, is the constant delusional whining about this one play that by all means DID NOT determine the outcome of this game. First off, we were not in scoring position if he catches the ball. Two, we struggled most of the second half to move the chains and score, so there is no way to know we would have gotten any points on that drive. Three, there was OVER EIGHT MINUTES left in the game, plenty of time for anything to happen no matter if we scored or not. Four, we had many chances to still win that game AFTER that play and both our offense and defense failed miserably. We couldn't move the ball, couldnt stop the run, couldnt cover anyone and couldnt tackle.
We lost because of how we played as a whole, not one stupid call. Losers blame the refs...winning teams go out and finish the game off, protect the lead, and still win the game. I swear, the constant whining about refs, conspiracy theories of how the NFL wants the Bills to lose so the refs screw us on purpose, conspiracy theories on how ESPN hates the Bills, b*tching about "lack of respect" in the BS power rankings in the preseason (after a freaking 4 win season last year by the way), etc, etc is just getting old and embarrassing as a Bills fan.
This TEAM...yes TEAM lost this game...you wanna piss and moan, then piss and moan about how atrocious our tackling and D as a whole played allowing Cincy to score on every drive but one in the second half.
PS: If you are going to piss and moan and blame the refs for a loss, then I want to see you come on here and give the refs the credit for a win when we get a favorable call that helps us win a game.
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Exactly...I'm not sure why some folks around here who should understand this concept don't...It's not easy to Win on the Road in the NFL and this garbage being spewed that The Bills are all of a sudden supposed to be the almighty Patsies or SB Champ Packers and overcome any and all obstacles in order to win on the Road is ridiculous...The truth is The Bills are not on that level yet and everyone knows it...But they were leading by 7 points at the time of the Play, in the 4th Quarter, and they just pushed into Cincy territory...They had CLEARLY snatched back momentum at that time of the Game...It was obvious...And also, I realize there are REAL tough calls to make in the NFL...Even some Replay calls are impossible to determine...This call was not one of those...It was SO cut and dry! How it did not get overturned is still beyond my comprehension...
So...Folks can say what they will about The Bills not doing what they needed to do to Win that Game...But it mostly applies to what they did not do AFTER that horrible Call...Because before that they may have been sloppy at times, but they had a 7 point lead in the 4th Quarter with about 8:30 left in the Game on the Road vs. an average NFL Team...That's not easy...Worst case scenario they run a couple more minutes off the clock...But 15 more Yards and they are in FG Range...A couple more 1st Downs and now there is VERY little time left for a Cincy comeback...The idea that this was not THE pivotal moment in the game is just wrong...Was it the only reason The Bills lost? Of coarse not...But it was a HUGE reason nonetheless...
This was a natural letdown Game for The Bills, and to that point (before the mis-call) they had gutted it out against a VERY good Defense and had a Touchdown lead midway through the 4th Quarter...Then everything went to hell...It's not making excuses...It's fact...It helped the Bengals Win the Game...
Sorry, havent read that book..."Things losers say"
I mean seriously, this play was disputable, but not a nail in the coffin like you and so many others want to make it out to be. Not enough evidence to overturn on replay, it happens, get over it. To sit here and get in an uproar and blame this play as for a reason why we lost is a loser mentality. WINNERS over come a hiccup, not sit back in the corner throwing all the blame at it. Trust me, Tom Brady and the Patriots would not have let this one play prevent them from executing their game and neither would have the other winning franchises. Calls happen EVERY single game that teams dont agree with or flat out are pissed about, but you still have to execute after that and finish the game off, ESPECIALLY when you have a 7 point lead in the 4th.
Not only did we not hold them twice on D after that, but we also did nothing on offense, much like the entire game. And to assume that we would have scored is being pretty generous considering we had problems all second half scoring, including the 2 drives after that...so points were not a given. Not to mention how often we went 3 and out, so even with a first there, we might not get another first down which would mean we would not have even been in FG range.
The refs did not lose this game for us, this team did.
PS: Why are you not on here giving credit to the refs for helping us beat NE because we got some favorable calls in that game, including the one that guaranteed the win which was taking the Timeout away from the Patriots, something I have never seen ever before by a ref as a penalty to a team for arguing a call. Thats the funny part...when we get breaks in calls, no one gives credit to the win to the refs for helping us, in fact, they dismiss it completely. But when we lose, you all blame the refs...its actually quite comical.
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Touched by Bengal, Knee down, ball secure.
Body down ball secure.
Ground CANNOT cause a fumble. Play over. Control rule does not apply.
The first ref called it right and should not have yielded to the ref 20 yards behind the play. No sign in any frames of a loose ball. The call on the field should have been over turned.
The catch and control rule is useful for sideline passes. The over officious ref blew it and was unfortunately supported by his cronies.
Disclaimer: I think that the Bills lost for many reason and not just one play.
Huh? No sign of a loose ball? This is the problem with still frames...you can freeze them to show any biased opinion you want. The actual game footage clearly shows the ball loose at the same point as one of these still frames. So to say there was no sign of the loose ball is silly as we all saw the ball come loose. In fact, the only thing NOT in dispute is whether it came loose, because it did. The issue is two fold...one, did he make a completed catch PRIOR to the ball coming loose...and two, did he maintain control once the ball came loose.
I believe it to be a catch, but you also have to complete the catch before you are down and maintain control. One thing no one is talking about is the fact that did SJ make enough progress once he caught the ball to be considered a completed catch. If he did not, then the ball coming loose is very significant and the fact that you can not determine if he kept it off the ground or not means the ref can not over turn the call in replay. This is why I believe they did not rule it a catch.
Doesnt matter, this play DID NOT lose us this game...we lost because the offense was anemic and the D couldn't stop anything or tackle on the ensuing drives after this. The Bills played bad on both sides of the ball all day and the refs did not cost us the game. In fact, most of the calls that fans are whining about were called properly by the refs...like the tuck rule (rule sucks big time, but they still called it correct according to the crappy rule) and the re spot giving Cincy a first down where he clearly got the first down on the replay. This loss is on the team, not the refs.
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I am surprised Dareus didn't make the list. And I know there were many Von Miller haters here- it states far and away Miller is having best year of the rookies
Dareus is mentioned at the bottom as other standouts...but if he had even one sack I bet he would move up. You cant expect these guys to watch every play of every game of every week just to do a list like this, so stats will heavily factor in. Marcells impact isnt showing on the stat sheet and isnt noticed unless you are looking for him on each play of each game. Thats the only reason he isnt on the list.
Doesnt help either that our D has given up over 30 points 2 consecutive weeks. However, as Bills fans, we know how much of an impact he has made, and we may not win the NE game without his deflection leading to that pick 6. The kid is a beast, and we dont need a list to confirm it.
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I didn't know defenders weren't allowed to tackle a player in the field of play....who knew.
Horrible call, but in the end it didn't hurt the Bills, thanks to Bryan Scott's awesome INT.
That can't really be a penalty right.....when are they going to start playing two hand touch??
Pretty simple...it looked helmet to helmet in live action and you cant over turn penalties on replay. And as soon as the hit occured I said I hope they dont throw a flag cuz that looked helmet to helmet. People at home forget that refs dont get replays, slow motion, various angles to determine penalties. All they have to go on is how they percieved it in live action.
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We rattled Brady to match his total pick count from 2010 in one game, you can't take that away from the Bills or our defense.
It was a great win, not taking anything away from them, I am estatic...just saying the Bills are not hated by any means...people picked the Pats to beat us because how good they had been playing and we had to come from behind to beat the Raiders.
Gets old hearing all the conspiracy theories on how the media hates us, when just about everyone media person I see praises Bills when we are playing good. This team has earned the criticism in the past, and now that we are playing great we will earn their praise.
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Know all we are going to hear how bad Brady was today and that they are still the better team even though they lost. Jamie Dukes. I thought that they said that they would take Buffalo seriously if they beat the Pattys, Well? the Bills are the most hated team and the are making alot of the un Billievers eat crow.
relax...coming into today, NE was playing better than anyone in the NFL and we had to come from behind to beat the Raiders...there is a reason they felt NE was the favorites. its not a anit Bills conspiracy, in fact, most of them seem to say all kinds of positive stuff about us, its just that the Pats coming in were still the team to beat...and still are as you cant bank on Brady throwing 4 picks every week.
Great win for us, I love it!!!
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After a jaw dropping 4 TD performance to start the season, the Bills brass is talking with Fitzpatrick about an extension. Good move, in my opinion. Fitz is a leader that the team respects and rallies behind. It's a good message to send too. Those that perform are rewarded.
No one talking to Parish's agent doesn't really bother me much. Doesn't mean he won't be extended in the future or that he will either. Perform, Roscoe and you will be rewarded.
I think its quite a bit premature right now unless they are going to get a fair price on him. Fitz has never had consistency in his career, so why over react and give him a big contract after one game against a sub par team missing its best defender in Berry. Look what happened when they over reacted to 4-0 start with DJ and gave him an extension because we beat 4 of the worst teams in the NFL that year, 3 of which we had to come from behind to do.
If they can extend Fitz at a price that is palatable then great. But I think his people are going to want long time starter money, and I think its just premature. Let him peform well for multiple weeks and against better opposition before they give him a big extension. Because by years end, if he doesn't prove he is the long term starter, then they are going to have to go QB early next year in the draft and we will be stuck with a high priced seat warmer. If Fitz can string together a bunch of good weeks in the first half of the season, they it makes more sense.
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By the way, dont judge Alphadawg.
Some posters answered the question without all the negative feedback.
Its just a question at the end of the day.
Its all good... But I do find it interesting that you blame your friend for this "stupid question" as you put it, but in the same post say that you would not trade Fitz for Brady...
Here is your quote: "No, I would not pull the switch on Fitz and would reject Brady"
So, if that is true, then I stand by my original comment about how we are all a little bit dumber for having read this today...maybe you should watch one more full game, the NE/Mia game and ask yourself this question again. If you still would not trade Fitz for Brady, then I would suggest a new hobby.
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Right! and I can play that game too. 8 of his turnovers were in only 2 games. Why can't you just give the guy some credit instead of trying to pick his accomplishments apart?
I did give him props in the very post you are replying to. But if you want look at his totals and act like he was Mr. Consistent, then go right ahead. The truth is, in the majority of his games he was not nearly as effective as the totals make you think as a large chunk of the production came in a few games.
I gave him total props for Week 1, said I loved seeing it and had a blast watching the game. But no matter how deep your homerism runs, he still needs to string some weeks like this together. You want to know what he did after his first 4 TD game last year? He went for 12 TD's and 16 turnovers in his next 9 games with a 56% comp rate and a QB rating of 70. And 4 of those 12 TD's came in one game against Cincy.
So, unlike you, I would like to see him string some good games together in a row, beat some better teams, and show some consistency before I start believing our QB questions are answered. And truthfully, I hope to high heaven Fitz becomes our man, I really do as I like the guy and how he plays. But I need consistency...
PS: In 2 of his 4 TD games, the opposing defense lost their starting safety during the game. In fact, KC lost their best player on D and Cincy lost both starting safeties...
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It's getting harder and harder to read lately.
If anyone even halfway seriously would turn down a fitz for Brady heads up trade.... They need to just stop posting.
I know what you mean...some of the stuff on this board has gone past the ridiculous. And its not just the board...I listen to a lot of sports radio on satellite radio, and the callers that call in as Bills fans are literally some of the dumbest calls I have ever heard. To the point, that usually the broadcaster are laughing and mocking them by the time they hang up because of some of the stupid things they call into say.
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I was trying to tell him that I really dislike Brady.
He was tring to tell me that if I had the power to choose Brady, I would.
I kept telling him no. I like fitz too much and dislike Brady too much. (obviously with time, I would accept Brady if we had him)
But I wouldn't select him if I had the power to do so.
I'll go first
No, I would not pull the switch on Fitz and would reject Brady
Brady or Fitz?
Thank you, we are now all dumber for having read this post. Thank you for continuing to dumb down this board and the continued pussification of the Bills fan base.
Seriously, your post must be a joke and I will take it that way...if not, then please see above sentence...
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Wow, this thread has gotten longer than I expected when I posted on the first page yesterday...lol
Noticed a few things skimming over this thread:
1. TSW ignorance has been rampant on this thread in classic form...so many people INACCURATELY citing 4 dropped passes by Evans by people who clearly did not watch a single play in the game as not one pass was dropped not catchable. In fact, the only one that was even within reach of Evans he was pass interfered with (which was not called).
2. The people wanting bash his no catch performance seem to also forget he has literally practiced with the Ravens all of about a week and a half to 2 weeks. He was in a walking boot after his second preseason game and did not practice again until 4 days before the Sunday game. Its not like he only had 2 weeks of practice on a team where he knew the playbook. This was a brand new offense and team.
3. Before his injury, he was the best receiver on the field for Balt in the preseason (and playing with the 1st unit and against the opponents first unit) despite having no rapport yet with Flacco, not knowing the playbook, and no experience in this offense. And it showed his potential in this offense.
4. In the first outing, where he only had a few days of practice to prepare for this game, Pitt kept rolling coverage over to him which opened up the rest of the field allowing Flacco plenty of easy targets and one on one matchups. Its MUCH harder for Flacco to try and force a ball into tight and doubled coverage on Evans when he has had so little time to get his timing down with him, especially with Evans speed. So he took advantage of all the open areas in the other parts of the field.
5. I find it most interesting that fans seem to think he isn't dangerous or effective, yet every single defensive coordinator that faces Evans feels the need to always double him no matter how bad the other receivers and TE's are burning them...
Bottom line is this: Evans made an immediate impact on this team that had a clear impact on this game. But in the era of fantasy football, many of the so called fans dont know anything about football other than stats and dont have the capability to see how a player can impact a team off the stat sheet. Secondly, Evans is going to be a very dangerous weapon there, especially now that teams see how good the rest offense is when they roll all the extra coverage toward Evans. By the end of the year, the Ravens will have won 13 games, be competing with NE for the #1 seed, and Evans will have had his best season since 06.
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Apologies for starting another Evans thread but I thought it might be worth it since a) I'm probably the only dude on this board who actually watched the entire Balt/Pitt game and b)I'm probably the only guy on this board who hasn't missed a single one of those matchups in years since it's my favorite rivalry right now.
Here's the truth of the matter; Lee Evans has significantly altered the entire dynamic of this division rivalry. And I'd guess that these 2 games (and sometimes 3) are the biggest reason they brought him to Baltimore.
I don't care about math and/or whether he put up a single statistic. This game had Evans fingerprints on it right from the get-go. Do you know why Boldin was singled on the first TD vs a weak corner who'd been out all preseason? Because the Stillers rolled their coverage over at Evans. It's right there on the film if you want to see it. Did you know that Baltimore has repeatedly struggled to get their TE's and RB's involved in the passing game against the Stillers, and for many, many years now? Yet on Sunday they found enough space for these guys to catch about a dozen balls for 150+ yards. There were places all over the field where the Ravens have never been able to find space against Pittsburgh(flats and seams), yet now those places are suddenly vacant of defenders. I don't believe for a second that this is just a co-incidence.
For the first time in years, the Ravens have the ability to stretch the field in a big way. And suddenly they have more space to work with all over the field. If y'all think that Evans isn't a significant factor in this new equation, I'd have to say you're badly mistaken on that point.
You were not the only one that watched that game for almost the entire thing. I was at a sports bar and DirecTV and all of its infinite wisdom decided it would be smart to do the download for the NFL package update (that was supposed to have been done a week earlier) on the morning of kickoff Sunday. Most of America (at least on the commercial packages bars subscribe to) had no package until sometime into the 3rd quarter. So, the local game on was Eagles/Rams and Balt/Pitt...add into that 2 of my friends are big Steeler fans (making me a Ravens fan be default for that game) and the fact I have Rice and Evans on fantasy teams, it made me very interested in the game.
Everything you said is 100% spot on. I was saying the very same thing and quickly pointed out to my Steeler freinds how they rolled to double Evans on that first Boldin TD making the one on one possible and the TD. Not to mention, Evans presence really opened up the run game for Rice because they couldn't bring in run support and had to account for Evans deep.
Evans is going to be a huge presence on that team, made a massive impact on that game, and seriously puts Balt as a major SB contender. Boldin, Dickson, Rice, and Flacco are all loving having him on the field. Wait a couple of weeks, and when they get their timing down his impact is going to be even greater. Haters forget, he has only had about 2 and half weeks of practice with the team as the last week and a half of preseason he was in a walking boot.
Nice post Simon...
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288-491 (58.6%) 3541 yards 31 Tds and 16 ints
Three 4 TD games in that span
Yes I know there were a few stinker games in there, but 31 TDs from our QB and 3500 yards? Thats a damn fine season especially if he can cut down on INTs
Key here is three games with 4 TD's...that means 40% of his TD production essentially came in 3 games. You also left off all his lost fumbles, thats 21 turnovers in 16 games.
Stat totals can be misleading. It looks good at first glance, but he struggled in many of the other 13 games where he also got several garbage time TD's to also pad that stat line.
That being said, he looked good yesterday and I loved seeing it and had a lot of fun watching the game...but the thing with Fitz is that he has boom or bust issues, and more often bust. What I need to see from him is consistency and to string some good games together. Raiders will be a good test for him and this offense as their D looked sharp last night, so looking forward to seeing if we can string a couple of good performances together by not only Fitz, but the rest of the offense and the D.
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I refuse to watch another Monday night game with the Patriots playing, Gruden affection for Tom Brady is unworldly. I'm passed disgusted with Gruden and he was one one of my fav coaches at one point..
We are all dumber from having read your stupid post...thanks.
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At the risk of starting another conflagration, I really want to know what the Buffalo sports media does when they are supposedly covering the team? Maybe John Wawrow could tell us.
I can understand the national media has 31 other teams to cover and the Bills have been such an afterthought that few if any would bother to take a close look at us. But how do reporters, who's job it is to cover camp and practices, talk to players and coaches, etc, be so dead wrong on this team's prospects going into the season? Seriously, if all of you are so "shocked" by what you saw, what the f**k do you do all day?
I do have a theory. Things have been so bad with the Bills the last 11 years that most of the press, thinking they are being unbiased, dismiss any good signs out of hand as being a mirage. And with the head gremlin Jerry Sullivan leading the charge, all the other reporters fall in line behind him.
This is the only scenario I can imagine because the Bills didn't just expose the KC Chiefs today, they exposed the Buffalo News and WGR for short-changing local sports fans.
PTR
Epic fail at a new thread...honestly, one of the worst and silliest I have seen on here.
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Here is a reality check...
1. KC has a new OC and no off-season to install the new offense. Cassels 3rd in last 3 or 4 years by the way.
2. No Moeaki who was the #2 option and a key blocker too that they built into the offense a lot this year.
3. They were thin at WR as well.
4. They lost Berry in the first for the season which immediately opened up the middle of the field drastically which we (very intelligently) exploited.
5. KC played above their talent level last year, much like Chi when they went 13-3 under DJ and will struggle to win 7 games this year.
6. KC looked awful all preseason and in camp.
Thats the truth about KC. It does NOT mean this win meant nothing. KC is a tough place to play, and they are a tough opponent at home always. This was a great win for the Bills and we looked good on both sides of the ball. It also does not mean we are suddenly playoff bound and a contender. Its just week 1 and there is a lot of football to play still.
Its a great win for us and so much fun to watch, but lets win some games in a row, beat some better teams (more importantly win some divisional games), and show some consistency first before we start talking playoffs or pointing fingers at everyone.
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Salem, Oregon
The only reason I thought the Bay Area in Nor Cal was because of some of the rappers you had on your list who were all huge in the Bay before main stream heard about them.
How has nobody mentioned Nas yet? Instead I see Snoop's name? Guy isn't even close to a top 10 rapper.
I would put Nas in top 10, but not top 5 even though he is a fave of mine...he hasnt had the same staying power as the others I had on my list IMO. Earlier stuff was much better than most recent stuff
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Be persistent is the key as some have said. First person told me all they could do was $20 off a month or free NFL Ticket To GO with my package.
Told them wasnt good enough, and to transfer me to someone who could help. She swore it was all that was possible, of course, I knew this wasnt true and told her I knew others got a much better deal and that a long time customer that bothered me. Long story short, the next person I was transferred to offered me $20 off a month for Sunday Ticket, plus free HDTV for a year saving another $120 making my Sunday Ticket essentially cost me about $85. I told them to throw in the NFL Sunday Ticket To Go for free and they had a deal. Put me on hold, and came back and said yes. So all in all, saved close to $300 on it and it took me about 30 min and also have the mobile pack.
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2Pac
Too $hort
Ice Cube
E-40
Tech N9ne
I am going to go out on a limb and say you are from the Bay right?
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Name the top 7 players on the Bills roster. I will try to prove a point
In no particular order...
Merriman
Barnett
Williams
Jackson
Dareus
Wood
Johnson
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name the top 5 greatest rappers of all time...
Eminem
Biggie
2pac
Jay Z
Snoop
Honorable Mention Groups: Wu Tang, Beastie Boys, Run DMC
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Or on the outside....does anyone remember that sure touchdown Spiller had last year (had he not dropped the ball of course) he was wide open.....
Which game was this?
I just can't let go...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Alphadawg7
If his comment was dumb, then yours is off the charts stupid. Converting a first down (thats not in scoring range) with over EIGHT minutes left in a game where we are only up by 7 in NOOOO way means we win. Especially since we had struggled to move the ball and score in the 2nd half...and more importantly our D allowed them to score on almost every possession in the 2nd half.
If the play is ruled a catch and we get the first, we could have just as easily not converted another first after that and punted...or got another one and kicked a long FG...either of those results DO NOT automatically equal a win and anyone capable of 1st grade math can figure that out.
Even if we got a TD (and based on our 2nd half performance, thats the least likely result of that drive) Cincy still drove it right down our throat on their next two possessions and could have still scored twice (like they did) with instead of settling for a FG to win the game could have just finished with a TD sending it into OT and had a shot of also winning.