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Fitz is a great pressure player....if only the rest of the players on the team would match it.
Really? Hmm, stats and results say otherwise, but if you say so enough it must be true right.
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I remember a few people suggesting Chad Johnson should be considered as a FA (Something I definitely don't agree with). I saw this clip, sorry but I just could never root for this guy...Even if he was good (which he's not).
Why? He just took a risk most people wouldn't have the balls to take by getting on that beast to help charity. What is wrong with that? I don't want him here in Buffalo because it will slow the development of our young prospects, and now is the time to develop those young prospects as we rebuild. But, why should anyone slam him for raising money for charity?
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Probably one of the dumbest articles I've seen. So Sanchez,Henne and Farve rank BELOW Fitzy. Fine. That means in the AFC East, only Brady is better. Whatever. Those stats are just crap to read while waiting for football to begin again. All I can tell you is when you get into the face of any QB they look really average. Brady, Marino, all of them. You pressure them and they don't look so great. This speaks more to our OL than anything else right now. It amuses me that so many on this board (and on this thread) get so high and mighty on "Fitz is not a franchise QB." So? He's better what was available to us in the Draft and Chan and Buddy will go get a guy who's better when and if they appear.
This response is about what I expected...you state the obvious that all QB's stats are worse under the pressure while completely ignoring the actual point of the article to somehow dismiss its value. The article is about comparing all the QB's under the same pressure...and Fitz is among the worst in the league at it. So just stating the obvious that all QB's perform lower under pressure then without pressure does not dismiss Fitzs very poor performance in comparison to all the other QB's in the league under pressure. People like you like to dismiss facts and go with biased opinion, lol.
BREAKING NEWS: In the NFL QB's will be facing pressure a lot because thats what defenses do. If your QB can't handle that, then thats a problem.
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So it's bad to draft defenders who are so good they create three-and-outs?
If we draft the best Offense in the history of football, they'll hardly be on the field because it will be One-And-Done with a TD! So then all these high offensive draft picks will be wasted because they'll never be on the field. And the defense will tire out because they have to return to the field so quickly.
Um, points are what win games. So if we were one and done with a TD every drive we wouldn't that be a good thing and we would go undefeated forever with a scoring average of 80+points a game?
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You need only remember what they did after last year's bye week....
Eight quality games…
Ravens, Chiefs, Bears, Lions, Bengals, Steelers, Browns, Dolphins
Two bad games…
Vikings, Patriots
and one glorified exhibition game…
Jets
This is a team with veterans at key positions who won't have to relearn a new system, who have a QB who won't be coming in cold off the bench but will have an entire training camp with the first team and to be ready week 1 against the Chiefs. Also, with the addition of Wannstedt as a defensive coach and Dareus who will help greatly at stopping the run, this team is poised to be one of the "surprise" teams in 2011. I think they've got a real NFL team brewing here.
Hmmmm...after our bye week...ok, lets look at that.
Fitz started 9 games (Brohm started one of the final 10 games) after our bye week completing 55% of his passes, 70 QB rating with 12 TD's and 16 Turnovers. Our D and O was also one of the worst over that period. We had a losing record over those final 10 games. This is what you think we deserve more respect for?
This isn't horse shoes...you dont get points for almost. And your "quality" games is quite the exaggeration. We played bad in most of those games and were fortunate those teams did too. Take the KC game for instance...one of Fitz's worst games of the season and one of our D's worst games of the season. However, KC dropped 3 gimme INT's (2 of which should have been pick sixes) and their offense kept shooting themselves in the foot with chances to score after pushing our D around all day. KC allowed us to even have a chance in that game...our offense, defense, and ST were all far from quality that game.
But you and others like to look at the stat sheet or scoreboard and say this or that...people need to watch the games again because we were not very good and earned the rankings we are getting right now. I believe we will be better, but its pretty silly to think anyone else will outside of Bills fans.
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http://fanrankings.nfl.com/results
Experts have us at 28, fans at 31. It does get annoying when you truly know your team will be better than that, especially since we probably got at least 2 or 3 legitimate impact players from our draft. I'd put us somewhere between 24-20, not playoffs yet, but getting there.
Really? Because this board was in an uproar last year when we got "no love" in the rankings and then went out and lived up to those rankings.
What is with this board and Bills fans since of entitlement of respect this team has not remotely earned? We had the #3 pick in the draft...teams that draft that high are not going to all of a sudden be top 15 in the polls because they drafted a DL. Not to mention, just about everyone outside of Bills fans knows the Bills need a better QB and we have yet to get one. Our offense was in the bottom third of the league last year and our defense was one of the worst.
So who cares about us being ranked that low, because we earned that ranking thus far and deserve to be there until we earn the right to be ranked higher. I believe we will be better, but I don't expect others to think otherwise based on what we have shown thus far.
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The Buffalo Bills are all in on Ryan Fitzpatrick as their quarterback for the 2011 NFL season. But the writers at ProFootballFocus.com put together an interesting study in their review of the 2010 season, revealing that Ryan Fitzpatrick is among one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the league with pressure in his face.
http://wgr550.com/Bills--Fitzpatrick-Ranks-Poorly-Under-Pressure/9846589
Cue the excuses...
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The hardest thing about the lockout now is not seeing our draft picks in OTAs. I'm dying to see MJ in drills against NFL level players.
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Ok, someone needs to clue me in on what I am missing here. Where is all the excitement coming from about this kid who is a 7th round pick and a long shot to make the team with a crowded D Line in front of him all ready? I don't mean that to knock the kid, I am just asking someone to clue me in on why this kid keeps getting so many threads started on him. We have some great prospects out of this draft, but this kid is being talked about more than any of our first 3 picks who are all potential day 1 starters.
Don't get me wrong, I think its great he is generating so much support, I just curious to where it is coming from as I had not heard a peep about him prior to the draft or during the draft until we picked him up.
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OK. So then who's to say that Reggie Wayne and Wes Welker didn't have more dropped passes? Maybe they dropped more balls than that then. Or does that rule ONLY account for Stevie???
Of all the things in my post, thats the only thing you wanted to respond with? Convenient...
Again, SJ dropped too many passes that players on this level should not be dropping. SJ was irrelevant far too often when the game still mattered and emerged to grab some late game stats with the game all but over. SJ was not dominating games the likes of those receivers you listed. SJ had mental lapses in important situations. You can grasp all you want to his year end stats, but the truth is SJ had a break out year for a 7th round draft pick, but at this point he compares more to Peerless Price more so than the receivers on your list. He has a lot to prove this year with the expectations he has now established and needs to elevate his game.
I like him a lot, and I think last year was a break out year, but not a dominant year. He has not emerged as a game changer or a true #1 receiver, and he won't until he can be relied on to make the catches in the tough spots, gets his mental game in check, and can prove to be a consistent factor throughout games.
# of games over 75 yards = 3
# of games less than 60 yards = 9
# of games with more than 5 catches = 5
He also only reached the endzone in 2 of his last 9 games...
Thats not the season of a dominant WR...he has a lot of potential, and I like him, but to talk about him in the same breath as the top receivers in the game is a bit premature. I am looking forward to seeing how he does this year and hopes that he emerges as a true #1.
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Stats don't lie. WR's that get targeted that much are gonna drop passes. It happens to the best of em. I'm not saying he's elite, but he is one of the better WRs in the game and the stats prove it. He caught 82 passes and dropped 8. God forbid. Dam him to h*ll !!!
Andre Johnson had 86 receptions and dropped 7.
Reggie Wayne had 111 receptions and dropped 13.
Brandon Marshall 86 receptions and dropped 11
Even elite WRs drop passes.
First of all, dropped passes are not an official stat and are subjective to interpretation. Second, I promise you SJ dropped more than 8 passes that he should have caught, I mean he had 5 in the Pitt game alone. Third, SJ drops too many passes that simply someone at this level should not be dropping.
More importantly though is that SJ was no where near as important on the field as those other receivers were last season. Too many times he was irrelevant for the bulk of the game and in several games compiled most of his stats once the game was out of reach. I am still high on him, it was still a break out year for him, but he is far from being in the conversation of the receivers you have on your list. He was no where near a game changer where he just took over games or was truly a dominant player on the field.
Overall, he had a break out season and I am looking forward to see how he builds on it. But, he has to be able make strides this year to be a factor throughout the game, make the catches he is supposed to make, and work on his mental game to be able to be relied upon in key situations.
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Front office is not as convinced as you. They took another Rb.
Really? You think a draft pick on day 3 of the draft was taken because they are not sold on spiller and think this kid could challenge or replace last years #9 overall pick rather than the more obvious logic of taking him for depth since we only have 2 RB's?
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What's so special about that? Kaepernick is going to a guy that just did pretty everything he's going to be asked to do. If it wasn't for the lockout, Kaepernick wouldn't even bother going to work with Luck. He'd work with his coaching staff instead. Just another reason for people to keep deep throating Luck.
^^^this^^^
LOL at the deep throating comment. Yeah, this isn't rocket science...Luck is the only QB that knows the offense Harbaugh wants to run. SF coaches cant go teach him, so why not send the kid to Stanford to learn as much as he can to better prepare him for once the lockout is lifted. If there was no lockout, its pretty much a 100% guarantee that Luck would not be the guy teaching him the offense. This is just actually a brilliant move by Harbaugh to make the most out of a bad situation by finding a loop hole that he can exploit because he just came from the college ranks and is going to roll out a similar offense in SF.
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Travis Henry never had trouble hitting the hole...
HA! And he had no trouble hitting the hole without any protection
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How does this make any sense though? Any rookie QB was not going to play this year for us anyway and would have sat the whole year behind Fitz. It's not like he was going to need to be ready to play at the beginning of the season. They already said that even if they drafted a QB they still were going to bring in a vet from FA to camp to compete to backup Fitz.
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Positions of need: Ryan Mallet, Kyle Rudolph, Daquan Bowers (DE), Stephen Paea(DT), Marcus Golbert (OT),Benjamin Ijalana (OT)
They could have had Mallet in round 3, so him being there in the middle of round 2 clearly was not a guy they would have taken. So scratch him from the list.
They could have had Bowers but said the knee and the fact he wasnt a good fit for their D is why they were not going to take him...scratch him from your list.
They drafted Dareus in round 1 and also have KW and Troup...so scratch Paea from your list
They did not draft a OL until late in the draft yet had several chances at some in rounds 2 and 3...so you can probably scratch the two OL guys off your list.
Who knows where they had Rudolph on thier list.
They wanted a CB and Williams was a first rounder who slipped...the next best corner on the board was a big drop off...there was no way they were going to get a corner they liked by trading down, so they took the one they coveted.
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the problem is the bills have always like "their guy"...it's killed us when they've moved up for guys like Losman, McCargo, or reached for McGahee. this inflexibility doesn't pay off when there are smart opportunities to move down.
All those guys are a long gone regime...has no relevance to the philosophy of Nix.
Yes we have lots of holes, and sure there are times where a trade down seems attractive to fans, however, I assure you that the GM's have a bounty more information in those war rooms on who they are dead set on getting and who else is interested in them. Like Nix said, if you have a guy that you want at that pick, then trading back risks that.
When you are a team that lacks Elite players, its never a bad thing to go after the best prospects, especially when you are picking at the top of each round.
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I think that it would be a good match for him and the Bills. He's familiar with Fitz and we have a rabid fan base that would feed Ocho's ego. This signing would be successful from a public relations' point, much like Terrell Owens' but on a smaller basis. I'm not reluctant to admit that I would also enjoy the attention that Western New York would receive from having a high profile player on our team.
Of course our administration probably has a completely different opinion on and not knowing how promising some of our young talent is at this position, I'll be the first to say that I could be way off base on this concept but it still doesn't change my feeling of wondering what if.
Would Ocho upgrade our overall WR talent..sure
However, we are in a rebuilding mode, and that is the time you develop your young talent, and we happen to have some young prospects at WR as well as two talented guys atop the depth chart. I don't see any value in adding him and stunting the development of our young core. Not to mention, we have a average QB in Fitz, so adding Ocho isn't going to make a whole lot of difference. Now, adding a strong receiving TE could actually help Fitz and that is what we should be spending money on...that and upgrading the OL.
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So, you think Carson Palmer, who is demanding out of Cincinnati,would agree to settle for going from one losing franchise to another losing franchise, to back-up the guy who used to back him up with his former losing franchise? I love Buffalo, I love the Bills, but I don't think Carson Palmer has the same feeling for Buffalo. He has a "short list" of teams he will accept a trade to...if a deal is not worked out with one of those teams, he will retire...he says...don't waste too much time pining for this to happen.
^^^ THIS ^^^
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youtube.com/watch?v=GdvLJerARxE
hmmm
Hmmm what? What does this play prove? I am 6'4" and 270 and if Marshall hit me just like that he would have lit me up as well. Marshall is no small man and built like a rock. I mean how is this any indication of Whitners ability as a safety? Florence released Marshall to pursue to his right leaving Marshall in perfect position to blind side a pursuing Whitner.
Whitner has holes in his game, but plays like this don't illustrate them.
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My friend and personal trainer Jeff is also the personal trainer for:
8. JONATHAN MARTIN, OT,STANFORD, 6-6, 305 **
He has known him and his family a long time and between what I have seen of him and what Jeff says about him, I would love this kid to be our pick. He just raves about this kids ability and he is supposed to be an outstanding individual as well. If he has a strong senior year though he will probably be a top 10 or top 5 pick, so we are going to have to have another poor season to have any shot at him if he keeps playing like he is.
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And no I am NOT calling him a bust....they guy is just LOADED with talent
But given that he didnt wrestle away the starting job last year and all the hype surrounding him when he was drafted.....he fell off the face of the earth after the season.
Why are you not at camp Fitz CJ?
What the most disappointing part of this was how dominant and explosive he was in the preseason after missing part of camp and a game due to the holdout. It really raised expectations of him becoming the feature back, especially being the starter come week 1 due to injury and suspensions. His inability to earn much playing time, especially after we traded Lynch, was quite the let down. I know it had a lot to do with his blocking ability.
When he came on the field it was easy to defend. It was not in on many passing downs unless it was going to be some short pass to him. His pass blocking was too much of a liability. So when he entered games teams just loaded the box on him (with the exception in 4 wide and such) because it was most likely going to be a run. Add in the inexperience and having to learn how to run in the NFL behind a constantly changing O Line due to injury, and it was a tough year for the kid.
That being said, I agree he is loaded with talent and I fully expect him to be a big factor in both our run game and short passing game this year.
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Jim Miller, former NFL quarterback told USA Today writer Jim Corbett that the Bills would have traded back into the first round if Christian Ponder had not been selected at #12 by the Minnesota Vikings.
If true, this confirms the widely-held belief that the Bills only considered two QBs from this draft class…Cam Newton and Christian Ponder…to be "franchise quarterbacks."
I actually got the impression the Bills would seriously consider trading back up to get him, even at one of NE's picks as we went into the draft.
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Vince Wilfork at 2004 combine - 6'1" 323 lbs
40 time: 5.21
Bench 225 lbs: 36
Vert Jump: 26.5"
Broad Jump: 8'5"
20 yrd shuffle:4.5
Michael Jasper private Bills workout - 6'4" 1/2 378 lbs
40 time: 5.38 -.17 sec
Bench 225 lbs: 34 -2 reps
Vert Jump: 32" + 5.5"
Broad Jump: 9'5" + 1'
20 yrd shuffle: ?
"The Shadow" kills Wilfork in the vert and broad jump, he is slightly under Wilfork in bench and 40 time. All while being 55 lbs heavier and 3.5" taller. Get this kid in the NFL weight room and training facilities. We could have the best NT in the NFL! Can't wait to see him in action!!
Did I miss something? Whats with all the excitement and threads about a 7th round draft pick and now being compared to someone like Wilfork? Didn't we just draft Dareus? Isn't this guy a long shot to make the team based on the mix of young prospects and vets we have on the DLine anyway? I fully admit I don't know much about this guy, so am I missing something? Was he a beast in college and just slipped or something?
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Glad to see him go, but yeah why was this done after the draft?
Bills' Fitzpatrick Ranks Poorly Under Pressure
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Alphadawg7
Trust me, I know and respect all those points...but, not all stats are for losers (and its a pretty week argument to say stats are for losers to dismiss the stats that factually disprove your argument), and the results I referred to were not the team results but Fitz's personal results as you said "Fitz" is "great" under pressure...and the results and stats both say otherwise. Not all stats prove this or that, but there are many stats that are important indicators of a players effectiveness overall or in given situations.
Clearly, the stats are plain as day that he is not good under pressure, but above and beyond that, he did not deliver when the pressure was on. We lost games on his arm this year with critical turnovers, even game ending turnovers, and drive ending missed passes. So, results and stats both say he is not "great" under pressure. That is the point.
I hope he comes out strong this year, but this discussion is not about next year, its about last year, and last year your claim of him being "great" under pressure has no factual basis other than you just saying it. I am behind the guy, I will root for him every weekend, but that doesn't change my opinion on how he played this past season. Because I am not satisfied with his past performance does not mean I hate the guy or won't root for him. He is a leader out there, he plays with guts, and I love that. But his individual performance was not good enough for me to say we are set at QB.