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Is it time to move on from McDermott? Not yet.
But what is imperative is that he come up with a new focus and new direction, best on defense I think.
"Trust the Process" is clearly flawed, that will eat away at the culture if unchanged.
McDermott and Beane have some serious work to do to refocus this team.
You can’t expect the team to keep buying into something that's not working well enough.
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2 hours ago, MJS said:
That's what I said when I first saw it. He needs to use his hands! What's the point of those fancy, sticky gloves if you don't even use them! Instead he let it bounce off his arms.
Yeah, I have feeling they don't practice low balls as much as they should, but understandable as less are thrown there. Still, he knows how to do it. Maybe he just misjudged it.
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3 minutes ago, appoo said:
It was a wobbly pass that needed a big adjustment and technically difficult because of how short it was to him.
Kincaid himself will tell you he dropped a ball he should have caught but no that’s not remotely an easy ball.
They caught the bills by total surprise with that blitz and Allen still handled it. Kincaid made a tremendous adjustment but couldn’t pull it off in the end
It was below the waist and I'd say at knee or thigh level so it wasn't like he was trying to pick it off the turf. Problem is he tried to arm/basket catch it instead of using his hands. He was in position because it was a long pass so he could track it. Very catchable ball that should have been caught. Can't agree with you that he made some massive adjustment or that it was hard to catch for a pro football player.
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13 minutes ago, Simon said:
I fully expect Vrabel to punch him in the face before this season is over.
I'm just praying for some kind of video and Bills Mafia will donate to Vrabel's charity of choice.
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17 minutes ago, corta765 said:
Truth hurts doesn’t it. 17 ain’t got the goods and showed it again last night.
Done ignoring reality, until he breaks through which he keeps failing at he is a choker and can’t do it.
😂 No, your ignorance hurts. Josh can't run downfield and catch his own throws nor play defense.
He's the best quarterback this franchise has ever seen and may ever see. Jim Kelly readily admits Allen is more talented than him. This roster just doesn't have enough talent and dynamic coaching.
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5 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:
I have a feeling he has had just about enough.
He's tired of being letdown by the D
Tired of his HC getting consistently outcoached by Reid.
Tired of having no legit weapons
He won't come out and say it. But he's probably thinking the exact same thing everyone else is.
The ball was there to be caught by Kincaid. No, it wasn't a simple catch. But an NFL player needs to make that catch.
No QB can play absolutely
I wouldn't say he's had just about enough but agree it has to be creeping into his brain.
No QB can play absolutely perfect, but Josh is at the top of his game and so at some point he's going to realize the FO isn't good enough if things don't change.
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5 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:
It seems so for sure. I get tired of hearing all week long about how Spags likes to send DB blitzes when the game is in the line and then you hear Josh say "I wasn't expecting it". What!?
i love Josh. Glad we have him, but him saying that tonight is just a microcosm of what this team looks like when they play KC. Were always a step behind or tricked or fooled into believing that maybe we're something that we're not.Yep, that's on coaching. We are an established team and you can't be content to rest on that. Extra effort to details of KC must be made if we want to beat them.
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5 hours ago, corta765 said:
Yes he isn’t immune. He had the opportunity every QB asks for, but unlike Mahomes Brady Manning he failed. He’s had his chances to prove himself and hasn’t, he’s a choker until otherwise and they aren’t going anywhere with him.
This is the most ignorant thing I've ever seen in a football discussion. I have no words other than I hope you stop being a Bills fan.
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5 hours ago, Success said:
What's the answer?
Can someone give me any reason not to walk away? Why should we have hope for next year, or any year?
I'm an eternal optimist - but this is TOO MUCH. It is way too much.
The answer is we need more dynamic coaching with better attention to details coming in and we need to tweak our defensive system (especially the DL) and get the personnel needed.
We were right there except for a botched reception.
Josh sees all and is at the top of his game.
McDermott needs to realize where and why we got outcoached and make changes.
But this is how it's going to be competing with Lamar and Mahomes every year. Coaches and FO need to up their game.
I would say clearly you're not an eternal optimist and that's ok. Walk away if you must or take some tiime and perspective to rediscover your optimism.
Earning a Superbowl will be the opposite of the 90's Bills because the AFC is so strong this time around.
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4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
That the Bills had not created a variation off the tush push in the event a team was successfully stopping it seems like football malpractice to me.
Even a fake where you pull back and hit a late releasing tight end. Creativity off your tendencies. Coaching against the best on this stage demands it.
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38 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:
It's not just one thing. The Bills were screwed by the refs and by themselves. Kincaid dropped two, possibly not simple, but not impossible catches that NFL players should make. I'd even aportion some blame on Samuel, though that was a Jackson-Andrews situation from last week, where the throw should have also been better. And then the defense... I'm not giving them a pass just because they managed a couple of stops. Well done, that's what defenses should do. Mahomes rolled to the right all night. Josh rolls to the left on tush pushes - the Chiefs noticed this and stopped it. Too much to ask for a change in game plan?
This is the thing with me about McDermott. Attention to detail, especially in the playoffs. Overly relying on the systems.
They had the tush push defensed and only once did we try a two count coming out of a time out. Give me a break Coach Obvious!
Meanwhile Mahomes is running that sweep right with impunity and down a defender in that area all night.
Elam had that stupid face mask penalty but we take our most athletic press DB and have him play way off his receiver all night. At least give him some chances to perform.
So many small details Reid accounted for and ours didn't. I don't want McDermott fired but want to hear how he improves his coaching and retools our defense. He needs to more fully realize what it takes to win these games.
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23 hours ago, Fleezoid said:
As was mentioned by Turk, the defense was not the priority last offseason, but it was the previous 2 or 3 years. What's been gnawing at me the last several weeks is; if the Bills don't do it this year, something is wrong with the player personnel, coaching or the process. Maybe all 3. The roster has been built the last few years to fill gaps and get the kind of guys this coach and GM want. And...they're as healthy as they've ever been in the playoffs. If it doesn't happen this year, something isn't working! They've got their guys and they're mostly healthy. This should not be the team sitting in the locker room eating Snickers bars.
Yep, the defense is a weak point but if they fail I feel like they have to adjust their overall defensive strategy and personnel. Not a total teardown, but a significant change in philosophy and personnel.
23 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:Christ, the biggest game in the last 30 years is tomorrow and you’re thinking about next season?!
I am praying Washington wins today. Daniels had a phenomenal season, but Buffalo’s D is built to play those types of teams. Philly is a much scarier team IMO
Edit: tomorrow not today
I Definitely want the commanders. They're playing with house money whereas Philly's got the swagger of past experience.
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I think it's wise of him. You know he got promoted to OC on the fly last year, focused on that and settled in this year. Next year he can devote some time to learning the ropes of HC from McDermott so he's more prepared to hit the ground as a HC after next season.
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3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:
It's tough news on Rapp but it's "next man up" and that's Bishop.
We all know that mentoring Bishop is one of Micah's main reasons he is on the team.
Having him on the PS instead of a "temp coach" is a good idea to me.
This way Hyde is with Bishop (and the other young guys) all the time, in the locker room etc.
Everyone throwing stats around, but we all have seen Bishop is improving since earlier in the season.
I'm hopeful.
After the Ravens game they were interviewing Damar and he specifically mentioned Cole Bishop’s development had really accelerated since Micah came back and started helping him. Just wish the Bills had done it earlier. Hopefully Cole's learned and seen enough to be successful Sunday.
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2 hours ago, stevestojan said:
jeez. This was awesome. Thanks.It's such an amazing time to be a Bills fan. We weren't even supposed to win the East. Everything's locked in now, just root like hell for them as they try and overcome any shortcomings and mistakes to win one for us!
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19 hours ago, stevestojan said:
I truly wish I had this mindset (really. It’s a compliment). All I can think about this week is how bass will miss a game winner, or the refs will throw a defensive holding call with 30 seconds left to let the chiefs win another one, or how Josh will have to go Superman and put up insane stats just to let McD do something stupid and ruin it again. You know, the standard stuff.
My wife often asks if I even enjoy watching the games. I do. I look forward to them. But I can see where she’s coming from.
i think decades of below average play and more importantly at least 10 soul crushing “billsy” losses have me jaded. Hell, after the onside recovery last week all I kept saying was “clean snap boys” when all we were doing was kneeling it down.
I just wish I could share your optimism. It would make this whole “being a fan” thing more fun.
Good luck, try to see the forest through the trees. We are blessed with a top notch owner, organization, and one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. Everything flows downhill from that.
Our team has amazing levels of perseverance and camraderie. Our offense can succeed against any defense in the league. They are so easy to love and root for.
At this level of football, a little luck will always be needed, as Ravens found out last week. The Ravens are still a great team and will contend next year. So will we if we can't win it all. But enjoy the journey and the titanic matchups. If luck should not favor us these last two games we are and will remain a great team as we reload and try again.
To your words, we are playing football at the highest levels and will continue to do so for many years, hopefully culminating in a trophy. How much simply better is that than those decades of lousy, pointless football?
You're letting the past rob you the joy of today and justifying your wallowing with the lack of a Superbowl trophy.
I hope you can let it go and put your trust in our guys and live the moments. If we fail, we are only in the middle of what will become another legendary time and players for this franchise.
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6 hours ago, UKBillFan said:
I think it's less hate on Lamar and how he seems to be treated differently to Josh. Excuses made, less criticism, criteria changes for MVP etc. It's on the media rather than Lamar as a QB.
I think Josh is/was treated differently because before last year, in his quest to be Superman, he made a lot of dumb plays alongside the great ones. Forcing the ball into coverage rather than a wide open underneath route, sacrificing his body to pick up yards on a second down run in the middle of a routine game.
Critics are going to be harder on Josh making mistakes playing the game the wrong way vs Lamar's mistakes while playing the game the right way.
Especially as everyone could see the greatness in Josh.
As Josh's changes prove permanent over time the critics are coming around and will continue to.
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3 hours ago, scuba guy said:
How do I say it.
Snow perfect 🥰
Almost, but not quite.
Schnow perfect 🥰
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On 1/21/2025 at 7:46 AM, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
I think Lamar is overrated in the sense that he’s not on the level of the big 3 (Allen, Burrow, Mahomes.) He is right on the fringes though and well worth the money they paid him which was very controversial at the time. I don’t think he will be playing at a high level into his mid-late 30s like the current top guys. He’s just too overly reliant on his athleticism. Allen can run it with the best of them and it certainly opens things up, but he’s more reliant on power than pure speed, and he can do things w his arm that no one else can. His athleticism was a complete afterthought during the draft process. Lamar needs an offense tailored to his skill set whereas Allen will thrive in pretty much any system. I am 100% positive all 32 GMs would take Josh over Lamar
Two years ago I would have agreed with you, but Lamar has really improved his vision and passing since then. He's drastically improved his decision making. Him and Josh have taken those final steps to being complete QB's and both will strive for continuing improvement.
We're really privileged to have 3-4 great quarterbacks squaring off against each other in the AFC (my fourth is Burrow). Epic playoff games now and in the coming years!
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1 hour ago, 4th&long said:
Don't the idiot coaches watch film? The bills have been running the ball all year. They had 30 td passes and 30 td runs. It's nothing new.
Sure they do, but what #17 can do with the ball is truly frightening so they want him stopped and will take their chances on the ground game. It's not like their defense played badly and Ravens were right there at the end.
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13 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
I sort of agree. A lot of it is tough to make simple, but I think there are some things that could be done.
First, as to what's a catch, I've actually stopped worrying about it, because I don't see too many plays where a real injustice has been done. We all know what a catch looks like and when a ball has been caught. It's easiest to think about a second baseman taking the relay from the shortstop, or even an outfielder dropping the ball after hitting the wall - we know what's a catch and what isn't. The problem is to describe that in words, because replay is going to be looking at it, and they need to know what the rules are that they should apply. In Ultimate, the rule is that the player caught the disc when it's in their possession and the disc has stopped rotating. That's pretty good, and maybe that plus two feet down would satisfy you and me. Actually, as we saw this year, I think maybe it should be two feet down or one foot down twice. Someone this season caught a ball and the end zone and for some reason hopped - he took two steps, but they were with the same foot. It was called incomplete. What about three hops? Four? At some point, it's completely clear that it's a catch, and two feet is just too restrictive.
I think two things have to be done. First, they need more quick replay reviews. The face mask call that wasn't actually a face mask could have been overturned very quickly with quality reviewers in the press box. There are multiple mistakes a game, not anyone's fault, just mistakes, and they should be fixed within a minute. If it's at all unclear, it stays as called on the field, but when you can see, obviously, that the call was wrong, it should be fixed.
Second, they need to do something about the ticky-tack stuff. Ineligible player downfield rule has to be made simpler, or has to be called only when it has an impact. Teams are getting flagged for that when it had nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Maybe the line has to be three yards instead of one yard. Something, but those calls are screwing up the game. The officials who call offside and illegal formation should be telling the players in advance of the play that they're lined up wrong. In basketball, the ref doesn't toss the ball for a jump ball until he's verified that all the other players are outside the circle. They don't see a guy on the line, toss the ball, then call a violation for being on the line.
Third, they need to get electronics involved in first down measurements, and ball spotting. My impression was they spotted the ball wrong on Cook's second down run before Josh was stopped on third and goal from the two where a touchdown would have put the game away. Looked like it should have been at the one. If it had been at the one, the Bills probably run the sneak, and the game is over. It all happens so fast in that situation, and it's so hard for the head coach to see it from the sideline that the coach is not going to challenge.
My two and three would get rid of a lot of the officials' responsibilities on stupid stuff and allow them to focus more on the true, tough judgment calls.
Your first reason is a no go because it completely undermines the authority of the refs on the field which will inflame any perceived mistake. That's why you instead give coaches the opportunity to ask the refs to re-review perceived critical mistakes and the ref gets the opportunity to correct and explain.
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15 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
This the fundamental rule that differentiates good officials from bad ones. Good officials have the discipline to call only the fouls they actually see. It happens in basketball all the time, and it drives me crazy. Ref on the baseline looking at the back of a player posting up, guard comes down and swipes at the ball and the ref calls a fall. How can he possibly see through the big man to have seen the actual foul? Impossible.
This weekend there was a phantom face mask call. Defender grabbed the far shoulder and pulled with force and at the right angle so the ball carrier whipped around, including his head. Flag. Granted, it all happens so fast it's hard to see, but the refs have to be as skilled as the players, and for them the skill is to call the face mask only when you actually see the hand on the face mask. On this play he couldn't have seen it, because the hand never touched the face mask.
What's so galling about the Dawkins call is that the officials must have been instructed about this play after they called it on Dawkins incorrectly a couple of weeks ago. They should have been looking for it, and they still missed it.
The NFL simply needs to go the way of the NBA and allow challenges of any/most penalty calls.
I feel like it's working great for basketball. The floor refs review, make a decision and briefly explain why. Out of bounds possession is frequently challenged and more than once while in review the refs realize an uncalled foul occured before the OoB and they'll instead call the foul.
It also allows everyone to understand why the ref made his/her decision and that has a calming effect.
It's a tough job and sometimes things happen too quickly to see entirely what happened.
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12 hours ago, DCofNC said:
Saw that, hated that he quit on the play to try to draw the flag. It was a hold, should have been called, but ya have to keep fighting there, don’t rely on the zebras to do the right thing, you don’t play for KC, you aren’t going to get the calls.
Here's the official wording of the rule:
Use his hands or arms to materially restrict an opponent or alter the defender’s path or angle of pursuit. It is a foul regardless of whether the blocker’s hands are inside or outside the frame of the defender’s body. Material restrictions include but are not limited to:
1. grabbing or tackling an opponent;
2. hooking, jerking, twisting, or turning him; or
3. pulling him to the ground.
Since the Ravens player didn't alter Oliver's path or angle, it falls under the gray area of "materially restrict". I see this same scenario all the time with Myles Garrett, refs focus on the fact that he is still moving up field so the grab gets ignored. Meanwhile, the defender has no chance of closing in on the QB due to the restriction.
I'm ok with Oliver's attempts to emphasize the grabbing. He wasn't getting to Lamar because of them, try and get the call.
Myles always keeps fighting as you suggest and never gets a call or the QB.
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7 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
Thank you. Who gives a crap? As long as they keep winning it really doesn’t matter if he has 0 catches or 15. They’ve ran the ball so well and I hope they continue to do so. They put up 27 points (actually 30 since they were in FG range at the end of the game) where Josh threw for 127 yards and 0 TDs ! That is insane. Look at it like a game of Chess. If you can beat up your opponent without using your queen and putting it at risk then why not? Like you said, when the matchup is there, Brady will exploit it. Cooper will have his number called at some point. We are one game away from the Super Bowl. Take that in for a minute. Buffalo will utilize whatever weapons they have to get to the promise land.
Well, everyone eats is fine, but if we want to keep him we better use him because otherwise it lowers the value of his next contract. He only played 21 of 61 snaps in this game. He's not getting much of a chance to eat.
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Is it time to move on from McDermott?
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by GaryPinC
Yes! After 7 seasons of Josh Allen let's keep on the same exact path doing the same exact things and keep telling our players and fans to trust it.
We'll keep glorifying our regular season successes instead of addressing the hard questions to push for postseason success.