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Biggest difference for them is Lamar has learned to hit the receiver when the D comes up to stop his scramble, and he is very good at moving around the pocket to extend a play.
McD has successfully defended him in the past but needs to adjust his plan IMO. He runs far less now.
The big thing is our D needs to pressure Lamar. They've been excellent at preventing that, so it's critical.
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37 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
I concur. I had that Friday...no way I could have played football.
Oh, they would have taken you to the training room and packed you tight. No problem playing.😂
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Not an OSU fan, but last night should be the end of Day's tenure.
Lose to Michigan, drive your starting QB out of the program with no backup plan, embarrassing offense against a beatable SEC opponent.
Buh-bye now.
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1 hour ago, Since1981 said:
I’d put my money in hurt but not out. He’s very verbally quiet and does not seem agitated. Tells me he’s hobbled and almost a decoy-ish
Totally agree, I wonder if an ankle or knee are limiting his cutting and his routes? It might explain the short screens. Anyone who watches him closely at games notice anything?
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18 hours ago, boyst said:
the SEC is kind of like that dweeb in HS who drove an Dodge Ram 3500 diesel because he had nothing else to offer but having a "truck." the SEC is all image. outside of Georgia, Auburn, and Alabama who are usually always a top 20 team - the rest is just a mix of nobodies.
When you can play Missouri, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Mississippi State, Arkansas, and more you just beat the piss out of nobody teams.
How is the B1G or was Pac10, Big12, ACC ( before all this current realignment) any different?
I've lived in B1G country since the 80's and continue to hear all about how conference games are so tough and draining, they struggle in bowl games.😂
B1G fans would totally throw out a chant if they won the natl Champs as much as the SEC.
UM can prove something against Bama. Or is it like post NFL draft where every fan is convinced this is their year?
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3 minutes ago, WhoTom said:
I'm not a fan of anyone doing it but it's become part of the game now, so I accept it when Josh does it. Any legal edge you can get, I guess.
But I can see a time when it becomes so obnoxious that they'll start penalizing someone for asking for a flag.
😄 That's what professional soccer thought when they made flopping a card-able offense.
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Many referees in all the major sports (especially professional) avoid calling fouls that are "trifling", ie. in their opinion not a major impact on play. Some also decide on a given day to set a pickier standard against a certain infraction. All this is of course highly subjective and maddening but that's how it is.
Josh, LeBron et al embellish for two reasons: It focuses the refs attention to their "plight" (for future calls). If effective, it forces opposing players to back off.
It's smart and can benefit the entire team. Used to hate it, but it serves to create advantage.
Cleveland gets upset because Myles Garrett has been held a ton this year but uncalled. It's because he fights so hard through them the refs won't bite. If he ever gets smart and draws a few fouls then he could really unload and break the sack record.
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On 12/14/2023 at 2:05 PM, Beck Water said:
Some of the incidents discussed in the article are clearly from 2020 (the WR Christmas gift of a truck to Chad Hall and McDermott's reaction to that gift) or 2021 (13 seconds). These were described up thread.
There were on the record quotes positive to McDermott from several players including Lee Smith, Pat DiMarco, Isaiah McKenzie, and a couple others - this was described up thread. So there were positive points of view presented.
What there didn't seem to be in the excerpts that have been made available, is the direct juxtaposition of opposing interpretations or viewpoints on the same incidents which anonymous sources blasted.
Example: 'According to a Bills assistant, McDermott would express his frustrations about Newton [ruining Carolina] in offensive staff meetings, creating an uncomfortable atmosphere, especially for Ken Dorsey, Newton's former coach and the man credited with his rise.' Put that way, it kind of makes McDermott sound 'stuck in the past' or even unhinged (why TF is he ranting about Newton and Carolina now, with the Bills?), and certainly insensitive to the feelings of former Carolina coaches who developed Newton.
But maybe there's some missing context or a missing alternate POV? Maybe McDermott's point was that Cam Newton, as the Franchise QB in whom CAR invested a 5 year, $104M contract (huge for that time), was reckless of his body in his play (like Allen is now) and when injuries accumulated, Newton put CAR in the tank because they were paying a guy who could no longer perform up to his contract. If that's the case, it can be argued McDermott could have a point, especially if he's using it to illustrate why 1) he wants a plan to run the ball that doesn't involve Allen as the primary RB 2) wants Allen coached harder to give himself up, get out of bounds, or slide when he runs. [to be clear, the above is my speculation]That's the kind of direct juxtaposition of different interpretations that seemed to be missing from the excerpts presented.
But there were positive quotes, some have been shared here.
Thanks for setting me straight on this.
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23 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Hence why myself and others point out that this wasnt "personal", it was all about Sean the "Professional"
Juicy and scandalous a la Russ Brandon would be about that person and their character.
The McD piece was all about gaffs as a coach, not a person.
He definitely coached Toney to line up Offside.
Or maybe the article did what McD the coach couldnt do, rally and motivate his players. We've been saying "This is the loss they needed to light a fire" for 2 years. Maybe this article was it.
I read the free parts of Dunne's series and some of the quotes around here. Not going to pay for that.
Dunne makes a point of putting in there early that he's been denied press credentials by the team, but hey no big deal. He speaks with 25 disgruntled ex colleagues and pretends it's investigative reporting?
McDermott has no relationship with his offensive personnel. Mitch answered that and so did Josh Allen todayhttps://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-sean-mcdermott-relationship-nfl/article_116e7cea-99ee-11ee-8eee-db5236d329df.html
For starters.
I suspect all of Dunne's sources and incidents are from 2017 and 2019 and there was no investigation, just talking to ex-personnel, taking quotes and treating them as gospel. No opposing point of view.
For those who paid for the articles, was there an opposing point of view, quotes or evidence? We already know some of the accusations are completely false.
McDermott has changed a lot since the early years. Nate Peterman. Never going for it on fourth down. And this year taking more chances on defense late in the game. He still needs to develop that, but he's doing it. That for me means everything. Growth. He had never been a head coach before this job. He's made mistakes but I'm cutting him the slack. Especially since his current team is standing up for him.
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
Am I the only one to whom it occurs: if Toney isn't so far offside there, does he make it to the same place at the same time to receive that lateral?
I don't think you can change one part of one play, and assume the rest of the play is equivalent.
I think our secondary was so concerned with Kelce that the play would still succeed. It was a great playcall.
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3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
I believe you but really, should this matter?
And btw I do not blame the OC. McDermott should have stepped in and overruled these calls.
I believe the thinking was two-fold: try to continue to move the ball to eat the clock and keep Mahomes off the field and the fact that KC's D-line was dominating our O-line at the time necessitating quick passing plays, especially as our running plays were getting stomped in the second half.
I would have liked to see them put Allen under center 1st down and play action pass but that's just me.
On D, this is one of the first high-profile games I recall McD keeping the heat on the QB late rather than playing extra-man zones that get picked apart. I do blame McD for 13 seconds, so it means a lot to me to witness his different thinking approach this time around. If the Kelce back pass had succeeded, at least Allen would have the ball back with over a minute to work with.
And this was a playoff game, not just us winning a mid-season contest against them. Mahomes' Karen-style snit proves that.
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8 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said:
Milano their best player on D, and White their best DB are out. Miller but a shadow of his former self. Plus they have to face Mahomes in KC. Roster not healthy and plenty of legit "excuses" if they fall in KC.
Gotta give a shout out to Daquan Jones also. I felt like the D line was noticeably more effective getting after the QB until he got hurt.
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1 hour ago, B-Man said:
Where did your money go Hunter ?
Bank statements confirm three payments of $1380 were made in 2018 to Joe Biden (while out of office). 3 effing payments. That's pathetic, keep blindly following your masters.
What I wonder is why Comer is focused on this when a laundering investigator supposedly found this:
"Biden received a $40,000 personal check from an account shared by his brother, James Biden, and sister-in-law, Sara Biden, in September 2017 — money that was marked as a “loan repayment.”
The alleged repayment was sent after funds were filtered from Northern International Capital, a Chinese company affiliated with the Chinese energy firm CEFC, through several accounts related to Hunter Biden and eventually down to the personal account shared by James and Sara Biden.
Northern International Capital sent $5 million to Hudson West III, a joint venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen ***** on August 8.
On the same day, Hudson West III then sent $400,000 to Owasco, P.C., an entity owned and controlled by Hunter Biden. Six days later, Hunter Biden wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, a company owned by James and Sara Biden. Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group on August 28 and then deposited the funds into her... personal checking account later that day.
On September 3, 2017, Sara Biden wrote a check to Joe Biden for $40,000."
Sheesh, and 3 truck loan repayments are what the right is worked up about?
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I know Pec tears are not a trivial injury. A doctor at work had one and it took many months to fully recover. IIRC he had his arm in a sling for 1-2 months then gradually started doing increasing PT over the next 2-4 months. It was around 6 months before he could really go back to his normal lifting/workouts with it. Not sure how much NFL athletes can speed up that timeline.
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2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
be glad all you want. Several things can be true.1) despite Edmunds lack of instincts, his size and athleticism made him an effective starter in the middle of an excellent defensive year after year
2) he wasn’t worth the deal he got from Chicago based on his shortcomings and he rarely created turnovers or factored into the pass rush
3) most people who zeroed in on blaming him for long running plays have no clue how a gap defense works
4) he still put enough good work on film to get paid a lot of money and multiple pro bowl nods.
5) his availability has been very high6) the organization did little to backfill a pretty critical area of the defense and one injury to milano (3rd season ending injury) later the defense is hosed
7) he never really lived up to his draft pick
8- several good players considered him a good player.
1. You forgot to mention Matt Milano helped make him an effective starter by helping cover for his shortcomings. Bernard allowed Milano to become even more effective until the injury.
2. Yep
3. Most people who absolve Edmunds on long running plays ignore the fact that Edmunds dogs it regularly when the play is not right in front of him and refuses to physically take on blocks, preferring to backpedal relentlessly.
4. He put enough good work on film in a contract year for a Chicago team desperate to make a splash after letting a quality LB walk. Too many outsiders watch a couple tackle highlights, look at his physical size, how he called the defense and don't delve into how he actually plays the game. Suckers.
5. Yes, because he abhors physical contact unless he is the only one who can make the tackle.
6. Bernard is a definite upgrade but the FO could have done more. The defense is getting hosed by losing Tre, Daquan, Oliver(short term) and Milano. Not Edmunds. It would be even worse if we had kept slacker Edmunds.
7. Yep
8. What does that mean and who really cares? Making a couple tackles and calling the defense earn him some appreciation but good is not great.
Pick a Bears game from this season, type in "Bears vs ________ highlights" and watch the 10 to 15 minute video. Focus exclusively on him and watch how much he dogs it out of his total plays when he should be fighting through blocks, closing to the ball and assisting on tackles. Can't be any more obvious than that.
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Marr said research shows that high-quality masks can block particles that are the same size as those carrying the coronavirus. Masks work, Marr explained, as a filter, not as a sieve. Virus particles must weave around the layers of fibers, and as they do so, they may crash into those fibers and become trapped.
Marr likened it to running through a forest of trees. Walk slowly, and the surrounding is easy to navigate. But being forced through a forest at a high speed increases the likelihood of running into a tree.
"Masks, even cloth masks, do something," she said.
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15 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
that’s ONE example. Now show us all the other examples from the three years prior. The good does outweigh the bad.We're talking winning a super bowl, not some line up good vs bad from the season and go with it.
Josh needs to diversify, not become some tame, lame backup quarterback and not be old 100% gunslinger Josh whose habits have gotten figured out. That's how we win a super bowl, a uber-talented QB with a diverse approach to keep the best defenses off balance in the playoffs while being maximally effective for himself and the talent around him.
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21 hours ago, Herc11 said:
Josh being Josh got them to the AFC championship game and divisional, which they should have won. The problem with taking that element out of his game is when a defense has the offense shut down, he doesn't have that tool in his tool box anymore to create a spark.
I'm not saying he can't evolve into a more traditional passer. I'm saying don't take away what makes him, him. Do you see Andy Reid trying to make Mahomes a traditional passer? No. He lets Pat be Pat and takes advantage of his unique play set.
In 2021. How'd he do in 2020, his overall statistical best year? How was his QBR vs KC in the playoffs that year? How was it last year? 2019? You're only seeing part of a picture here.
I've never seen McD profess wanting to limit players' individuality. In fact, he respects and encourages it when he discusses with the press. With JA, McD says he needs to play smart and smarter. Avoid hits at the end of scrambles in the middle of a game. Stop hurdling players and risking injury for a semi-meaningless first down against an opponent we're beating. Stop making unnecessarily stupid passes downfield when an outlet pass with YAC is available.
Josh needs to grow up, be in better control of himself and know when and what situation to pull out hero Josh. And Josh is finally realizing and developing it for himself. It's unfortunate so many fans can't appreciate that.
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23 minutes ago, Herc11 said:
I've been saying the same thing since game one this season. You have to let Josh be Josh. They are essentially taking away the element that makes him special. His ability to play off script is the weapon that frustrates defenses and our coaching staff wants to handicap him by taking that element out of his game.
Josh being Josh means keying and slinging it downfield into coverage or scrambling when shorter routes were open. It's too predictable and quality defenses are using it against him, like the Jets.
Josh is becoming more dynamic and trying to better see the entire field. I believe him trying to make these changes is pushing the scrambling further down the priority list for now.
Dorsey also needs to learn how to dynamically play call (run game) to exploit what is working and better set up the passing game.
No one was complaining about new Josh in the Miami game. I am hoping much of this is growing pains and once Josh and Dorsey feel comfortable the unpredictable parts of Josh will be more prevalent, but the offense will be in far better shape.
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12 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
Feel free to merge this with the other Frazier thread but the more I watch this defense, and this team in general, has an edge to it.
It’s pretty clear through 4 games that Frazier wasn’t running McDermotts defense and McDermott determined that his DC was holding some players back.
The difference in play and aggressiveness from Ed Oliver, Greg Rousseau have been night and day.
The development of AJ Epenesa who has been really good early this year, Terrell Bernard, Christian Benford look like pro bowl type players now.
just a huge night and day difference with some of these guys from last year.
Is there a Frazier coached player who's left and gone on to really blossom? That would be a development issue. I can promise you Edmunds hasn't. He looks the same.
I agree with others that simply the shift in strategical approach has better empowered our guys.
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7 hours ago, Virgil said:
They wanted that 3rd round pickUndeniable. But the entire thing was highly unusual. Given McD's value of a family culture and Frazier being classy, well liked, and coaching a top ranked defense, I think it was the classiest way for a change to be made.
I believe the primary motivation was at minimum McD realized the Frazier's lack of aggression and creativity was a problem for beating the top teams, especially in the playoffs.
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5 hours ago, Steptide said:
Only thing I'm angry about is the fact that McDermott didn't take over the defense 2 years ago
Well, it was two years ago the Pegulas and McD were talking Frazier up as a head coach candidate so they tried!
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Definitely one for McD. 2nd half Phins 4th and 1, dialing up the blitz against the backup left tackle to break their backs. No way Frazier does that.
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17 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Yea he has definitely looked slower. Some of that is definitely to be expected at his age. I think there may have been an element of knocking the rust off too. Last week was his best game.
I hope so but worry his age/slowness will show up against the top teams.
14 hours ago, PBF81 said:Agree on Poyer, but those things need to be anticipated, not relacted to.
Absolutely, the FO has to mentally adjust from opening the superbowl window to keeping it open. They've got to be more on top of things. I can give them credit for Bernard, they really should address OT and Center next draft but our safety situation is a vulnerability and may trump that. Optimally, safety should have been better addressed the last two seasons.
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Battle of the Blue bloods
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Well, they could have made their case by sticking it to Georgia if they believed in themselves so strongly. Instead, very many of their best players ran away. Unimpressive, and maybe the committee made the right decision. FSU fell apart before even taking the field.