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Do you think I could find something as offensive as that from someone else? If I looked up socialism/Russia/communism/etc... I wouldn't find hyperbole? Regardless, my point is - no one has been going through imposing their biases on others. I was hoping we could agree on that.

It is actually under Browse, but I don't think many people explore the menus.

But let's be clear, no one's opinion was being suppressed. No biased moderators were acting on left/right biases. I hope that you would agree that is a fair statement. If it wasn't fair, the list of individual grievances would be a mile long.

The moderation here has almost been non-existent., so it certainly wasn't biased. DR had 55k posts in here. C'mon, man. I am not aware of a single person whose viewpoint was suppressed. I personally acted on member v. member events. Any other suggestion isn't true.

When I say "clubs" I am talking about the software feature we have. You may not be aware of it. I don't see many people maneuvering away unfortunately. A club has like 5 different options - open, closed, read only, invite only... something like that. It makes it unofficial which is nice. Obviously an admin can do anything, but there isn't even a report post function there. The club owner can appoint mods on their own.

I'm not sure what you are saying here. 🤷‍♂️

My opinion is this: 1. We have the best Bills forum anywhere. Always have. I hope that continues. Right/left/black/white/green are all welcome here. 2. I have my reservations about PPP and I am not able to fix political discourse. It has morphed into its own club. Usually when they happens, club members get annoyed with others. It always happens. It has happened before and it will happen again. That's the life cycle of social groups. However, given the evolution as a group to being more clubby than open, I think moving it to a self-contained club makes total sense. It relieves a lot of pain points. I think it gives everyone what they want. Threading that needle, in an open forum, is difficult.

This has been said erroneously before. I routinely dump posts from the stadium wall into the archive. I’m not sure I have done that here in 10 years or more if ever. There is something like 8 million posts in our database. 800,000 are here of which of the majority are from a smaller group.

One can be hopeful, but I don’t think so.

It can be done but it is a hassle. The state of political discourse isn’t going to be solved by me or any Bills community.

Ironically, they could have created their own closed club. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I hadn’t brought it up in public, but I had suggested it to others to see what they think.

no one is going to talk with anyone who drops Hitler references.

I don't think so, club mods and club owners have complete control over a forum. They just can't affect a member's standing in the community as a whole. Obviously, the key here is that an integrated politics club is very difficult. Members have to show they are committed to discussion. Nah. I'd like to keep this on-topic. Thanks.

sounds reasonable. lol

No. They can lock, move, merge, delete. Club owners can move members in/out depending on the club style.

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you ask a lot of questions. lol I'll check.

clubs have their own moderators. It's moving the ownership closer to the source. To me that should be a positive thing.

Would it make a difference?

As I have mentioned before, as a Buffalo Bills community, PPP isn't really a main focus, but had remained over the years as other subforms were phased out. I have been thinking for a few years (or sometime after the clubs were a part of the software) that this place would be better served as club than a subforum. I'm shocked it didn't occur organically to be honest. A club owner can name their own moderators and choose an open/closed club. This also moves the forum further away from Bills moderators, which is desirable. None of us really want to be involved in this. I'm open to your thoughts.

I think this silly thread has taken it’s course. If you have future complaints about WGR and their personalities, please email the program director. We are not the complaint department for the radio talent.

Sorry this is took so long. I don't like replying to long posts on my phone and I hadn't had ample time at my desktop. Plus, I'm getting a little burned out on the subject. However, I promised a response. The biggest thing I can tell is that you is that despite these supposed wrongs, I have never heard from DR regarding this. Not once. Not after his initial suspension. Not after he came back (except for him accusing another member of supporting child abuse), and not after this time. Not a single "hey, you deserve an explanation". I'm thinking if someone can decode the clues on the Declaration of Independence, he can use the contact form listed right on the front page: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/contact-us/ People use it all the time. He has had the ability to respond to me since July 10th. Again, the link is above. I am well aware that I am sitting here amidst a slew of members who peddle conspiracy theories day after day. Thus these baseless charges of being "out to get to people" comes as no surprise. There are 800k posts in here. DR with 55k posts in under 7 years. A 3 year old Qanon topic untouched. There is an existence theorem here. The mere presence of everything you see here is in direct contradiction to your assertions. If there is an aggravation in all of this, it is that despite YEARS of pressure to do away with PPP (because why do we have this divisive entity in a Buffalo Bills Community when the internet has evolved such that better outlets exist for political discussion), I am the one who has ultimately resisted those calls (including resisting my own doubts). Again, the sheer existence of this place contradicts any accusations that I am suppressing ideas and thought that are different than mine. I literally keep this place open BECAUSE of the people here, while I am being accused of being against the people here. I mean, seriously? (With that said, global corporations such as Facebook and Twitter are shutting down Qanon stuff. This hasn't gone unnoticed and I battle with my conscience all the time to do the right thing.) I have banned people and usernames based upon what I have seen. I explained what I acted on above. In case you haven't noticed, there has been shockingly thin support regarding what DR actually posted and to who, including hearing nothing from him. Additionally, I made a post about the display names that have been banned and gave the same timeout to the perpetrator that I gave DR. I'm not sure what else you need. I am looking for a way forward that makes sense for everyone. Regardless, I hope people see value and have fun and are entertained by coming ere and taking about the Bills and the NFL. I don't care who you are or what lever you pull, everyone is welcomed to join the community and enjoy what appears to be the start of a something great. We are always here. We have been here since 1996 and this community has been here since 1998. P.S. I am not a legal entity. The distinction between "you are a child abuser" and "you support child abuse and their abusers" doesn't matter to me in message board world. Neither are appropriate and neither should ever be an issue in a Buffalo Bills community. Thanks for listening.

For those looking for expanded talk about the Sabres and the draft tonight, head over to https://www.sabrespace.com/community/forum/1-the-aud-club/

I will respond later, but most of this is wrong.

VHS. Try some ginkgo Viagra.