Captain Caveman Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Schobel and Maybin's combined stats: 1 Solo Tackle 2 Assisted Tackles 0 sacks Don't remember any pressures from them either. These are our two best pass rushers. Doesn't bode well for next week vs New Orleans. The stats don't show the consistent double teams which helped us get pressure up the middle consistently. I stopped counting how many times Leftwich got knocked on his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Diego Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I thought Maybin was the guy who hit Leftwich on Witner's pick six. I am pretty sure I saw 58 make that play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I thought Maybin was the guy who hit Leftwich on Witner's pick six. I am pretty sure I saw 58 make that play! It was Kyle Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonramz Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 The stats don't show the consistent double teams which helped us get pressure up the middle consistently. I stopped counting how many times Leftwich got knocked on his ass. I would love to say that Maybin got double teamed... but he did not. He was handled 1 on 1 very easily. The Bills blitzed a crap load yesterday which is why Leftwich kept getting hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 WOW... that was funny. During preseason I thought I was wrong about the kid and maybe he had what it takes to be an immediate impact guy. Looks like he is a ways away from being NFL-Ready. Perry would be better off disguising him a bit as a linebacker on obvious passing downs. He does nothing off the edge from his 3-technique stance. That being said, the kid has played diciplined and I haven't noticed him losing contain on the edge so that's a positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 The stats don't show the consistent double teams which helped us get pressure up the middle consistently. I stopped counting how many times Leftwich got knocked on his ass. I thought our pressure was generally mediocre until the fourth quarter when Perry Fewell went out of character and brought the kitchen sink. When I think of good pass rush, it does not resemble what the Bills showed in the first three quarters. So I guess I disagree with you Captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 It is certainly very rare for a rookie to come in and be an immediate impact player. I do like how the new defensive line coach has all the other guys playing... I had given up on hearing Kelsay or Denny's name mentioned during a game, but they (up to the injury to Kelsay) have been more effective on the rush. It certainly helps having Schobel back healthy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I only noticed Maybin a few times and he was neutralized each time. Still have very high hopes for the kid though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Maybin has shown nothing so far. Yes high hopes still but he's shown nothing. As I mentioned on another thread, is it possible that the best thing the Bills could do would be to sit Maybin out a week? Bear with me here: Maybin missed all of training camp. He's probably not in tip top football shape and needs more conditioning/strength, etc. Maybin obviously needs to develop some counter moves. We have a 3rd round pick in his second year, Chris Ellis who in the short run, might be an improvement to our pass rush. It seems like Ellis got better over the course of the preseason. The Bills have had two games to know what Maybin is capable of at this point. They have little or no idea of what Ellis can do because he's actually taken fewer regular season snaps than Maybin. Ellis played only parts of two games last year. Does anyone believe that for one week, this could actually hurt the team in light of how ineffective Maybin has been? And shouldn't it be important to an organization to give young players like Chris Ellis and Steve Johnson an opportunity to show what they're capable of for everyone's benefit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I don't claim to be an expert, but when Maybin went inside the guard was almost always there to help. Which meant he wasn't focusing on the DT. Unfortunately, Maybin didn't go inside often, and when he did, he was pretty easily neutralized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginald Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 It is certainly very rare for a rookie to come in and be an immediate impact player. I do like how the new defensive line coach has all the other guys playing... I had given up on hearing Kelsay or Denny's name mentioned during a game, but they (up to the injury to Kelsay) have been more effective on the rush. It certainly helps having Schobel back healthy again. Wood, Levitre & Nelson = all rookies / all currently making an impact. As ineffective as Maybin has been rushing the quarterback, how has his run defense been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 That's great, we drafted a weak, not very fast, something or other with our first pick? Put the kid on the bench if he ain't ready. Where the f*** is Chris Ellis? Yeah bench him because he is not ready? WTF is he supposed to do? Beat up on Pop Warner kids till he feels he is ready. How do you expect him to get better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 The intent of my original post wasn't to be snarky and take a shot at Maybin. I actually meant to ask a legitimate question. Apparently everyone feels the need to legitimize their own point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidNation Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 That's an excellent way for him to get some in-game experience, riding the timber. After all, it would be pointless getting him some snaps with the first team defense against a weak team, at a home game. I almost wonder if you are serious. You play the best team you have. You don't go by their draft position, or their salary but the best team. That's why you had Anthony Thomas playing over Fred Jackson, and dare I say McKelvin over Corner. Those are the guys that we paid more and drafted higher and it should make any difference. I want to see Jackson over Thomas if he's better and Ellis over Maybin if he's better. But go ahead, pretend we wanted the highest rated 1st rounders to always play instead of performance. Maybin isn't strong enough yet to play DE. He looks horrible and not so quick. He's easily pushed out of a play and has shown nothing of substance to show he should be in the starting line-up. If Ellis is playing better you play Ellis. Why not make the argument for Ellis last year? Oh, that's right he's not a 1st round pick so he's a nobody. Give me the best guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 When are some of you going to learn to just keep an even keel and not be so !@#$in up and down. Maybin holds out - OMG don't sign his ass, he's a piece of ****!! 2 pre-season sacks - ROY candidate, good for 12 sacks easy!!! Ineffective first 2 games - why did we draft this one-dimensional !@#$!!!!! Just chill the hell out. He's a good, passionate football player who is learning his way. It's easier to see how the fans of this city are capable of stealing **** and writing on people's lawns if you just observe this flipped out message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 We need to get Maybin and Ellis in there. Why is Ellis always inactive? We need more pass rushers. Who knows maybe if we had Ellis Vrs NE we win. There was nothing from our DEs in the 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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