The Big Cat Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 (disclaimer: I believe that as a professor at NYU, Mark Crispen Miller is smarter, and more informed than any person writing on this board. Also, he does not follow a liberal agenda bent on world domination.) But since we're on the topic of a specific RELIGION unravelling the fabric of American existence, let's see what he has to say about voter manipulation in America: "We now see a burst of vote flipping by machines, electronic voting machines in a couple of states. This is something that we saw in at least eleven states in the 2004 election, hundreds and hundreds of people coming forward to say, “I pushed the button for Kerry, and the button for Bush lit up.” So, clearly, this was a systematic programming decision by the people in charge of the machines, which in that case and this one is the Republican Party. We’re also seeing systematic shortages of working voting machines in Democratic precincts only. This is also something that did not happen only in Ohio in 2004, but happened nationwide. That election was, in fact, stolen...I know because there’s been an audit of the vote in eighteen counties of Ohio by a researcher named Richard Hayes Phillips, who had his team literally scrutinize every single ballot that was warehoused in eighteen Ohio counties. They took over 30,000 digital photographs. This is a meticulous, careful, specific and conclusive demonstration that John Kerry actually won some 200,000 votes in those eighteen counties only that were taken away from him. Bush’s official victory margin, you may recall, was about 118,000. So there is no question about it. Ohio was stolen...Of the variously altered, mutilated ballots, yes. Ballots with stickers placed over the square that people had blacked in for Kerry/Edwards; somebody else blacks in Bush/Cheney. Thousands and thousands of ballots that were pre-marked before they were distributed, so that people would mark different boxes on them, and then they would be invalidated. Even more chilling is the fact that after Phillips did his research, the boards of elections in fifty-five Ohio counties destroyed all or some of their ballots in defiance of a court order. So we have criminal behavior here of a kind of grand and systematic kind... Stephen Spoonamore is a conservative Republican, a former McCain supporter and, most importantly, a renowned and highly successful expert at the detection of computer fraud. That’s his profession. He works for major banks. He works for foreign governments. He works for the Secret Service. Those are his clients.n He knows personally the principal players in Bush-Cheney’s conspiracy to subvert our elections through electronic means since 2000, and he has named these principal players. Specifically, he has named a man named Mike Connell. Mike Connell, according to Spoonamore, is Karl Rove’s computer guru. This is the guy who has helped Bush-Cheney fix election results through computers since Florida 2000, in Ohio in 2004, also in the stolen re-election of Governor Don Siegelman in Alabama in 2002, also in the stolen re-election of Senator Max Cleland in Georgia in 2002... they use a kind of architecture that’s called Man in the Middle, and it involves shunting election returns data through a separate computer somewhere else. This is something that computer criminals do all the time with banks. Spoonamore explains that the Man in the Middle setup is extremely effective and basically undetectable as a way to change election results. Now, the scariest thing is that Connell told Spoonamore that the reason why he has helped Bush-Cheney steal these elections for the last eight years has been to save the babies. See? We have to understand that there’s a very powerful component of religious fanaticism at work in the election fraud conspiracy But for now, the Muslims should be our priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Then you must strongly disagree with this stupid women that claims muslims are the enemy My concerns are for the innocent people Radical extremist Muslims are killing around the world and what are we going to do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 And that was Kuwait, one of the more "moderate" of the Arab nations. Koweit moderate? It's not because Koweit is a pro american tyranny that it is a moderate country! Compared to the modernity of the urban parts of Iran, Lebanon, Jordania, Egypt or Tunisia, Koweit is still in the middle age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Koweit moderate? It's not because Koweit is a pro american tyranny that it is a moderate country! Compared to the modernity of the urban parts of Iran, Lebanon, Jordania, Egypt or Tunisia, Koweit is still in the middle age! English spell check much, frenchy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 English spell check much, frenchy? Not much... but if you have trouble understanding my posts just ask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 My concerns are for the innocent people Radical extremist Muslims are killing around the world and what are we going to do about it. What people tends to forget is that radical muslims are mainly and before all killing innocent non radical muslims. Who do you think die in thoses bombings that take place everyday in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Not much... but if you have trouble understanding my posts just ask! Hey Olivier, next time you're in Florida look me up. We could make fun of each other over a nice bottle of wine while watching the Yankees kick the living shiit out of the red sux. PS. Bring your Frenchy to English dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Hey Olivier, next time you're in Florida look me up. We could make fun of each other over a nice bottle of wine while watching the Yankees kick the living shiit out of the red sux. PS. Bring your Frenchy to English dictionary. he you gotta chose one for all, mr bandwagon jumper! One day you're all Rays, the next all Yanks... Anyway with a couple of friends (all Red Sox fans, i know how to chose my friends!) we hope to go to Florida for spring training one of those next Marchs... It'll not be next one but maybe for 2010... i'll keep you informed! And till then if you cross the pond just tell me.. i'll forget about you curious dubious political and baseball choices after a couple of bottles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 (disclaimer: I believe that as a professor at NYU, Mark Crispen Miller is smarter, and more informed than any person writing on this board. Also, he does not follow a liberal agenda bent on world domination.) But since we're on the topic of a specific RELIGION unravelling the fabric of American existence, let's see what he has to say about voter manipulation in America: But for now, the Muslims should be our priority. Makes ya wonder why the reds think PA is in play. We are in teh 21st century are supposed to be the leading democracy inthe world and we cant get the voting process from looking like its fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Or better yet, when they DO attack, let's attack another country, completely unrelated to the ACTUAL attack on America. None of the people who did us harm will feel our vengance, but it'll teach them a lesson! Get me some of whatever drugs you are on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Get me some of whatever drugs you are on! You don't have a library card? There's lots of books and magazines at these places, you should look into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Food for thought... In his endorsement, Mr. Powell added that an Obama election “will also not only electrify our country, I think it’ll electrify the world.” You can already see that. A 22-nation survey by the BBC found that voters abroad preferred Mr. Obama to Mr. McCain in every single country — by four to one over all. Nearly half of those in the BBC poll said that the election of Mr. Obama, an African-American, would “fundamentally change” their perceptions of the United States. Europe is particularly intoxicated by the possibility of restoring amity with America in an Obama presidency. As The Economist put it: “Across the Continent, Bush hatred has been replaced by Obama-mania.” Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes, which conducted the BBC poll, said that at a recent international conference he attended in Malaysia, many Muslims voiced astonishment at Mr. Obama’s rise because it was so much at odds with their assumptions about the United States. Remember that the one thing countless millions of people around the world “know” about the United States is that it is controlled by a cabal of white bankers and Jews who use police with fire hoses to repress blacks. To them, Mr. Obama’s rise triggers severe cognitive dissonance. “It’s an anomaly, so contrary to their expectation that it makes them receptive to a new paradigm for the U.S.,” Mr. Kull said. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/opinion/23kristof.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Food for thought... http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/opinion/23kristof.html If you concern yourself with the feelings/ideas of other countries, then you must not love America. (good link) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Food for thought... http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/opinion/23kristof.html I am sure many will say who cares what the world thinks well thats the bush doctrine for sure. Healing can only occur when people understand and respect each other. Our country is extremely divided just look at this thread for evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 You don't have a library card? There's lots of books and magazines at these places, you should look into it! Libraries are nothing more than Socialist Salons that leach off the government for their unhealthy existence! If you want to crush communism, especially Islamic Communism, start by closing the libraries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 If you concern yourself with the feelings/ideas of other countries, then you must not love America. (good link) Yeah, it doesn't matter what other people around the world think of us. Screw 'em. Unless they hate us, which is all of 'em, and then we should kill 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Again, there's nothing Christian about Mormonism. Mormons are Mormons, not Christians, regardless of what their propaganda machine produces. I'll not bother debating the theology of it with you, because you'd likely not understand. But the fact is they're about as Christian as the Moonies are. Let me fix this for you about Muslims: Radical Muslims are Extremists, not Muslims, regardless of what their propaganda machine produces. I'll not bother debating the theology of it with you, because you'd likely not understand. But the fact is they're about as Muslim as the Moonies are. /sarcasm off See bud, it can go both ways. Just because the mainstream group denounces a particular radical element of their group or religion, it does not mean that they are wholly not a part of that religion anymore. Mormons do think that they are a part of Christianity, in fact that think that they are the PERFECT and most correct Christian belief system... just like every religion thinks that their belief system is the best. It is the same with Muslims and their problems with extremists. Every religion has extremist elements, but that doesn't mean that the entire relgious group is extremist. By your token, just because Mormons are "evil" doesnt mean that Christianity as a whole is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Islamic Communism, start by closing the libraries! Is Islamic Communism anything Like Christian Communism??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Is Islamic Communism anything Like Christian Communism??? Ask Maobama, he's one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 Is Islamic Communism anything Like Christian Communism??? How dare you compare Christianity to a fake religion like Islam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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