SACTOBILLSFAN Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yes this team sucks in every aspect, but its time to see if Nall can play and move on from JP. He locks onto targets, won't tuck and run and even if its not his fault the offense cannot move the football. I've been a huge supporter of JPs since we drafted him but to me its apparent if he's going to succeed in the NFL it won't be in Buffalo. He may not be turning the football over but he's not "managing" the game either. Sometimes you just need to shake things up and make guys realize they may not be playing for the playoffs but they're playing for pay checks next year. This team is really really bad beyond rebuilding because they've regressed since the beginning of the year, and be it coaching lack of talent etc lets just see what someone else can do behind center. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednecksbasketball Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 honestly I don't think Tom Brady could move the ball with the sh-- the Bills have out there. This team is bad in so many areas it isn't even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Don't blaim the qb for the problem with the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yes this team sucks in every aspect, but its time to see if Nall can play and move on from JP. He locks onto targets, won't tuck and run and even if its not his fault the offense cannot move the football. I've been a huge supporter of JPs since we drafted him but to me its apparent if he's going to succeed in the NFL it won't be in Buffalo. He may not be turning the football over but he's not "managing" the game either. Sometimes you just need to shake things up and make guys realize they may not be playing for the playoffs but they're playing for pay checks next year. This team is really really bad beyond rebuilding because they've regressed since the beginning of the year, and be it coaching lack of talent etc lets just see what someone else can do behind center. Dave 825361[/snapback] I only just realized with this game that if Losman were playing for another team (Baltimore, say), I'd be laughing my ass off at his performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I'm with you. To have 56 yds passing after 3 quarters? AND with the defense playing relatively well and spotting you seven? I'd like to see if Nall can do anything any better.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 At what time do you start trusting the Coach that he knows Football better than we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 At what time do you start trusting the Coach that he knows Football better than we do 825385[/snapback] When he puts a !@#$ing right tackle on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Please, this guy can't even manage a game when it slaps him in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 He can only put on the field what Marv gives him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 At what time do you start trusting the Coach that he knows Football better than we do 825385[/snapback] The trend over the past four or five seasons has been this: When people who have supported this guy or that guy all along begin to lose faith and withdraw their support, a change at OBD usually takes place. I wanted JP to succeed as much as anyone....but even though it's not all his fault, we need to see what other folks on the team can do. Nall was brought in here for a reason....I think it's time to see if that decision will bear fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 He can only put on the field what Marv gives him 825394[/snapback] At what point do you start trusting the GM that he knows football better than we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 At what time do you start trusting the Coach that he knows Football better than we do 825385[/snapback] When his team looks remotely prepared. Look at what a change has done for Jax and Dallas. We don't have playmakers like they do but what the hell Nall can't be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 So change for change sake. I would thin you would want your best athletes playing. Nall has nowhere near the tools JP does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripes Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 You guys notice that Favre isn't getting much more time than Losman, right? He's hitting slants, and throwing the ball on one step. That's what you do when the o-line sucks. If JP can't do this, or won't do this in order to hit the killer 40-yarder to Evans, then he doesn't belong out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 So change for change sake. I would thin you would want your best athletes playing. Nall has nowhere near the tools JP does 825424[/snapback] We don't need a guy with tools. We need someone who can make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t. For all we know, Nall is a master chef compared to JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 At what point do you start trusting the GM that he knows football better than we do? 825403[/snapback] i'm going to ponder that question under his bust at the hall of fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 So change for change sake. I would thin you would want your best athletes playing. Nall has nowhere near the tools JP does 825424[/snapback] I'm not advocating benching Losman in mid-season, mind you. The idiots calling for Nall without having ever seen him play a down are just that: idiots. I am advocating another rebuilding year, however. Sorry, Takeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 We all knew going in that this year was a rebuilding year. I would think you would want JP to get as much experience as he can this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I'm not advocating benching Losman in mid-season, mind you. The idiots calling for Nall without having ever seen him play a down are just that: idiots. I am advocating another rebuilding year, however. Sorry, Takeo. 825439[/snapback] I think it's pretty clear what we have with J-Lo at this point. Maybe Nall blows too, I like many here have never seen him play other than the preseason, but at least he gives us some type of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I'm not calling for anyone. I'm just saying JP just ain't cutting it. We're screwed either way unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I love how we are not losing (yet) and our fans so upset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripes Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 The idiots calling for Nall without having ever seen him play a down are just that: idiots. 825439[/snapback] And the apologists that say JP Losman can't be "blaimed" -- when he just waited 3.5 seconds in a collapsing pocket on 2nd and 5 -- are getting shrill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 And the apologists that say JP Losman can't be "blaimed" -- when he just waited 3.5 seconds in a collapsing pocket on 2nd and 5 -- are getting shrill. 825454[/snapback] Not me. I absolutely think Losman can be blamed for this. Doesn't mean calling for Nall is sane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Your hear every former QB say that a QB has to get into a groove. It is hard to get into a groove when don't have time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 The fact that we aren't losing is because of the defense and special teams. JP has done nothing. Completely ineffective. Sometimes a young QB just needs to take a step back and let his brain catch up with what's going on. Even though Carr has a few seasons under his belt, the other week they benched him mid-game in favor of what's his name. The team almost won the game with a miracle 4th quarter comeback. Today Carr is back in there starting. I don't see anyproblem with giving Nall a quarter here and there when JP just isn't getting it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 I'm not advocating benching Losman in mid-season, mind you. The idiots calling for Nall without having ever seen him play a down are just that: idiots. I am advocating another rebuilding year, however. Sorry, Takeo. 825439[/snapback] We all knew going in that this year was a rebuilding year. I would think you would want JP to get as much experience as he can this year. 825442[/snapback] Yeah we thought we were rebuilding but the team is simply pathetic, and they've gotten worse on offense every week. And change for the sake of changing can be a good thing, and anyone who has played sports at higher level than rec softball knows this and i laugh when you say idiot bungee jumper because when you get to a high enough level all of the guys have ability or they wouldn't be there. Sometimes stagnation happens when guys get comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Let's bring Nall in now please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Let's bring Nall in now please 825480[/snapback] Everyone knows benching JP now would be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 But JP sucks and we need change for change sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yeah we thought we were rebuilding but the team is simply pathetic, and they've gotten worse on offense every week. That, my friend, is BAD coaching. Basically it's opposing teams getting more gamefilm and the Bills' coaches doing NOTHING to make adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Let's bring Nall in now please 825480[/snapback] Why not? It makes sense. Take Losman out on a high note, so he doesn't make a bad play and damage his confidence. It's the perfect time to put in Nall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 TD. I'm still not convinced. Wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 TD. I'm still not convinced. Wide open. 825504[/snapback] So basically you're saying that Nall could have made that pass, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 TD. I'm still not convinced. Wide open. 825504[/snapback] Than you will never be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Evans was wide open didn't take a great pass. They won because of defense and special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Evans was wide open didn't take a great pass. They won because of defense and special teams. True. It also took Evans not dropping the pass like he's done all too often this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I could have made that pass. I'm not asking for Manning #s, just progress. He can't even manage a damn game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 If you use your eyes, you'll see that there were a LOT of problems on offense, outside of JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Trust me, I KNOW JP ain't the only problem. But it's his decision making in certain situations that give me doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risin Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 We won. Quit crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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