SDS Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/1...03471660478567/ If this is really true, than this is all you need to know about "buy American" and what a fallacy it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I think the P-51 was one of the finest WW2 aircraft ever built. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/1...03471660478567/ If this is really true, than this is all you need to know about "buy American" and what a fallacy it is. 666917[/snapback] Huh? I don't get that out of your reference... IIRC you wanted a Chrysler 300C a year or so ago. Get the 300hp Mustang!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I don't get it either. The US auto industry has its head up its a$$ when it comes to ventures like this. The product works, meets cost and performance targets, yet the "PM" gets booted. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/1...03471660478567/ If this is really true, than this is all you need to know about "buy American" and what a fallacy it is. 666917[/snapback] It isn't just American Auto Companies. See Eastman Kodak, Xerox. Complacency rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I don't get it either. The US auto industry has its head up its a$$ when it comes to ventures like this. The product works, meets cost and performance targets, yet the "PM" gets booted. ?? 666948[/snapback] Confused..Mustang meets meets market expection vs. heads up a**? Help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Huh? I don't get that out of your reference... IIRC you wanted a Chrysler 300C a year or so ago. Get the 300hp Mustang!!! 666944[/snapback] Why !@#$ around....The new Vettes are unreal and dependable as can be. It's consistanly on Consumer Reports best value for the buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Why !@#$ around....The new Vettes are unreal and dependable as can be. It's consistanly on Consumer Reports best value for the buck. 666964[/snapback] I disagree. The Mustang is much cheaper and more than capable of having you lose your driving license for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I disagree. The Mustang is much cheaper and more than capable of having you lose your driving license for the rest of your life. 666974[/snapback] I just rented one when I was down in Florida, they are great. They drive like old muscle cars, which is what one would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Confused..Mustang meets meets market expection vs. heads up a**? Help! 666959[/snapback] I did not get the point of SDS's comment. The product is meeting the market requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 I did not get the point of SDS's comment. The product is meeting the market requirement. 667057[/snapback] the point is they fired the guy who designed their best product. What is there not to understand? Did you read the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I did not get the point of SDS's comment. The product is meeting the market requirement. 667057[/snapback] Let's see. 1. Dude is given mission to design a great car. 2. Dude leads team that designs great car. Sells lots and makes tons of money for struggling automaker. 3. Dude is eased out because he didn't fit his team's design into the neat "corporatelly mandated" box. ie: This particular American automaker is still being run like an old guard company, which will generally mean substandard product at inflated prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Why !@#$ around....The new Vettes are unreal and dependable as can be. It's consistanly on Consumer Reports best value for the buck. 666964[/snapback] You mean the one where the roofs rip off? http://www.corvetteblogger.com/index.cfm/2...tte-Roof-Recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 You mean the one where the roofs rip off? http://www.corvetteblogger.com/index.cfm/2...tte-Roof-Recall 667072[/snapback] Forget the naysayers and buy that 5-speed V-8 Mustang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Wait for the Camaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Huh? I don't get that out of your reference... IIRC you wanted a Chrysler 300C a year or so ago. Get the 300hp Mustang!!! 666944[/snapback] Ok, I can see the confusion in my remark. The point wasn't to hammer the Mustang, but to hammer American auto companies in general for their stupidity (if this story is indeed true). Many people will just stand up and say "buy American", but that requires putting your stamp of approval on these retards that run Ford and GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Ok, I can see the confusion in my remark. The point wasn't to hammer the Mustang, but to hammer American auto companies in general for their stupidity (if this story is indeed true). Many people will just stand up and say "buy American", but that requires putting your stamp of approval on these retards that run Ford and GM. 667114[/snapback] Well,..history shows these things being offered to the mass market by those idiots: electric starting V-8 motors power steering power brakes power locks power windows automatic transmissions radios supercharging turbocharging alternators Cathodic E-Coat Water-base top coats High strength steel Air Bags Shoulder belts and others. Americans are far from idiots, as well as the companies they work for. Immigrants pour into our universities. No one else is even close to exploring the universe. Our technology is stolen by foreigners daily... These US auto companies helped save the World; they in short order marshalled themselves, and built the tanks, the airplanes, the cannons, the ships. for WWI and again in WWII. They participate in exploration of earth, land , and sky. They are huge thchnological engines. Their wages paid through the years built much of suburbia; that wage paid for many a school system. Built housing, bought food, purchased books. Their suppliers account for something like 1 in 9 US jobs. Attack them if you like. Hammer them. I happen to like their products. Do you want to do best to kill 'em.? SDS - I really know a lot about the literal nuts and bolts of the transportation biz. I could go on for a long time about the problems in the marketplace of the Oriental makes. And the Germans. and the US builds. Fact is, there is much complexity to days's vehichles - and substantially more reliability. I might add - foreign manufacturer in the US laugh at paying even a semblence of a pension, and pay US taxation on profits but don't have that obglition in their home country. Nice financial advantage. Ford, GM in Europe, pay on both ends... Like always, most of the road problems that afflict the folks are because they refuse to realize that any car is a complicated colllection of over 20,000 parts, and their idea of maintenence is to scrape their feet on the rocker boxes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Wait for the Camaro. 667110[/snapback] Wait for the new-old Dodge Challenger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Mustangs are a great street rod, smoked one with a 87 grand national....Now a days I drive a chevy van, which is good for nudging sh-- box blues out of the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Wait for the new-old Dodge Challenger... 667216[/snapback] Both are looking great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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