ganesh Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 The one area you can quibble about Mr. Wilson's sincerity is when it comes to paying for top flite HCs. Other than that, a Bills fan has little to B word about in terms of ownership's willingness to spend money. From paying for the facilities' improvements, to paying for free agents, to buying leftover tickets to lift TV blackouts...Mr. Wilson has delivered. 552276[/snapback] Agreed...He even allowed TD to re-do Bledsoe's contract (which they need not have done at all) only to see TD fire Bledsoe.... He paid the 10M signing bonus to retain Moulds and get TKO.... He paid the big contract at the last minute to allow the signing of Milloy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Do you really think Marv had no say in acquiring players? The first thing he did when he was hired was to nab Tasker off the waiver wires. That staff was a team, they worked together and it showed up on the field. He hasn't taken the cheap way out, he doesn't care about $ anymore. Why would he? The old man wants to win. You can disagree over whether this decision will accomplish that but accusing him of doing it because he is cheap is just an infantile reaction to not getting what you want. I have plenty of questions of my own on this move but doubting Ralph Wilson's committment to winning isn't one of them. 552261[/snapback] I'm not doubting his committment to winning but the way he's going about it! The right way to do things = Miami Dolphins spending a ton of cash by hiring a young and energetic Coach in Nick Saban and basically letting him call his own shots. A Bright FUTURE is ahead for Fins fans. The wrong way = Buffalo by keeping MM and not eating the remaining 3 years, remember History repeats itself and Ralph isn't going to "not care about Money" until they put him six feet under and then bringing back Marv for a job that needs a young man in charge. Marv is 77 and I don't care what type of shape he's in he will be overwhelmed by the every day duties of a GM IF that's what Ralph is doing. Plus it's a quick fix for now but what about the Bills FUTURE? How long will Marv be able to do the job? It all just wreaks, Bigtime!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 remember History repeats itself 552329[/snapback] Yep. So let's hold off on enshrining Saban and see what he does next year with a tougher schedule / higher expectations. He might pull a MM and there goes your whole argument... And Marv's "everyday duties" will be to ensure that his management team works together...not so taxing, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 why b/c he bought a team 40 years ago? 551985[/snapback] Exactly for that reason. He has run a pro team for 40 years. And when he bought the team for 30K 40 years ago. That was an enormous amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm not doubting his committment to winning but the way he's going about it! The right way to do things = Miami Dolphins spending a ton of cash by hiring a young and energetic Coach in Nick Saban and basically letting him call his own shots. A Bright FUTURE is ahead for Fins fans. The wrong way = Buffalo by keeping MM and not eating the remaining 3 years, remember History repeats itself and Ralph isn't going to "not care about Money" until they put him six feet under and then bringing back Marv for a job that needs a young man in charge. Marv is 77 and I don't care what type of shape he's in he will be overwhelmed by the every day duties of a GM IF that's what Ralph is doing. Plus it's a quick fix for now but what about the Bills FUTURE? How long will Marv be able to do the job? It all just wreaks, Bigtime!! 552329[/snapback] Look at the money they pay in signing bonuses and out to players. You honestly think Ralph in overly concerned with 5 million bucks if he thought he had a better shot with somebody else? Also could you please elaborate on how Marv would be overwhelmed with the everyday duties of an NFL GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Brady Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Do you really think Marv had no say in acquiring players? The first thing he did when he was hired was to nab Tasker off the waiver wires. That staff was a team, they worked together and it showed up on the field. He hasn't taken the cheap way out, he doesn't care about $ anymore. Why would he? The old man wants to win. You can disagree over whether this decision will accomplish that but accusing him of doing it because he is cheap is just an infantile reaction to not getting what you want. I have plenty of questions of my own on this move but doubting Ralph Wilson's committment to winning isn't one of them. 552261[/snapback] Once a penny pincher always a penny pincher..........That must be why it was stated when whitey signed that he was taking less money than he could have gotten elsewhere to stay close to pitts.Face it ralph's a cheap s.o.b. always has been and will be........he didn't get rich spending like a drunk sailor..............Rich people always worry about making more money it's an illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Once a penny pincher always a penny pincher..........That must be why it was stated when whitey signed that he was taking less money than he could have gotten elsewhere to stay close to pitts.Face it ralph's a cheap s.o.b. always has been and will be........he didn't get rich spending like a drunk sailor..............Rich people always worry about making more money it's an illness. 552396[/snapback] "Rich people always worry about making more money" Tell that to poor people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Look at the money they pay in signing bonuses and out to players. You honestly think Ralph in overly concerned with 5 million bucks if he thought he had a better shot with somebody else? Also could you please elaborate on how Marv would be overwhelmed with the everyday duties of an NFL GM? 552357[/snapback] Yes Ralpie does pay out some cash for signing bonuses etc but he gets a huge load from the Network TV contracts every year!! He's not losing money! As for Marv, do you honestly think that Marv (at his age) would be able to take on the duties of an every day NFL GM? I don't and I think he will be in Buffalo only to oversee things not to be the GM. An every day GM has 12 to 16 hour days at times and I don't see any 77 year old being able to take on those duties (unless his last name is Kent - as in Clark). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm not doubting his committment to winning but the way he's going about it! The right way to do things = Miami Dolphins spending a ton of cash by hiring a young and energetic Coach in Nick Saban and basically letting him call his own shots. A Bright FUTURE is ahead for Fins fans. The wrong way = Buffalo by keeping MM and not eating the remaining 3 years, remember History repeats itself and Ralph isn't going to "not care about Money" until they put him six feet under and then bringing back Marv for a job that needs a young man in charge. Marv is 77 and I don't care what type of shape he's in he will be overwhelmed by the every day duties of a GM IF that's what Ralph is doing. Plus it's a quick fix for now but what about the Bills FUTURE? How long will Marv be able to do the job? It all just wreaks, Bigtime!! 552329[/snapback] SPending a ton of cash ALWAYS guarantees winning-just ask Dan Snyder about his big signings when he first got there, ask the New York Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Yes Ralpie does pay out some cash for signing bonuses etc but he gets a huge load from the Network TV contracts every year!! He's not losing money! As for Marv, do you honestly think that Marv (at his age) would be able to take on the duties of an every day NFL GM? I don't and I think he will be in Buffalo only to oversee things not to be the GM. An every day GM has 12 to 16 hour days at times and I don't see any 77 year old being able to take on those duties (unless his last name is Kent - as in Clark). 552420[/snapback] Why do you keep saying "everyday GM?" That's not how the position is going to be structured. Think "Team President" not GM in the traditional Polian/Butler mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 SPending a ton of cash ALWAYS guarantees winning-just ask Dan Snyder about his big signings when he first got there, ask the New York Rangers 552421[/snapback] I didn't say it did guarantee anything, but who would have thought that the Dolphins would be 9-7 this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Brady Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 "Rich people always worry about making more money" Tell that to poor people. 552410[/snapback] I don't have too ....everytime I go to the stadium, parking, beer and hotdogs cost more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 The Bottom line is IF Ralph keeps MM he's a fool! MM won't change his colors overnight and history will repeat itself with passes to FB Damien Shelton the norm at One Bills Drive in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I didn't say it did guarantee anything, but who would have thought that the Dolphins would be 9-7 this season? 552429[/snapback] Me- they had one of the best drafts in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsjunkie Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 The Bottom line is IF Ralph keeps MM he's a fool! MM won't change his colors overnight and history will repeat itself with passes to FB Damien Shelton the norm at One Bills Drive in 2006. 552436[/snapback] I'm no big fan of MM but I'm pretty sure those passes to Shelton were checkdowns by friggin Holcomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who is Yuri? Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 That's right! No complaints about Wilson. He's been good to the fans. We live (some of us) in Buffalo, for God's sake! Do you know what that is like? So we have problems with the GM, and he changes the GM. He thought he had a good thing with the head coach, so he decides to wait for it to pan out. We shouldn't have a problem with Wilson, if we want to watch a local team. He's making a change and we should give him the benefit of the doubt IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 OK, when you own an NFL you can make coahcing changes every year. Mr. Wilson didnt keep Mularkey because he's cheap, he did it because he thinks its a good move- and Mr. Wilson knows more about football than you do....like it or not 551981[/snapback] My great aunt knows more about football than Ralph. Ralph knows about country club tennis tournaments and yachting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 My great aunt knows more about football than Ralph. Ralph knows about country club tennis tournaments and yachting. 552457[/snapback] Didn't school start back up this week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsjunkie Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 That's right! No complaints about Wilson. He's been good to the fans. We live (some of us) in Buffalo, for God's sake! Do you know what that is like? So we have problems with the GM, and he changes the GM. He thought he had a good thing with the head coach, so he decides to wait for it to pan out. We shouldn't have a problem with Wilson, if we want to watch a local team. He's making a change and we should give him the benefit of the doubt IMHO. 552455[/snapback] I agree. But like most things. You cant please everyone. I love the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm not doubting his committment to winning but the way he's going about it! The right way to do things = Miami Dolphins spending a ton of cash by hiring a young and energetic Coach in Nick Saban and basically letting him call his own shots. A Bright FUTURE is ahead for Fins fans. The wrong way = Buffalo by keeping MM and not eating the remaining 3 years, remember History repeats itself and Ralph isn't going to "not care about Money" until they put him six feet under and then bringing back Marv for a job that needs a young man in charge. Marv is 77 and I don't care what type of shape he's in he will be overwhelmed by the every day duties of a GM IF that's what Ralph is doing. Plus it's a quick fix for now but what about the Bills FUTURE? How long will Marv be able to do the job? It all just wreaks, Bigtime!! 552329[/snapback] Marv is 77??--yeah and Im 39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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